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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Perfect draft would look like this, and i'm assuming that we lose a 6th rounder for TJ and we get a 4th round comp for Igor.

1st: Arthur Jones DE/DT, Syracuse

2nd: Mike Iupati OG/RT, Idaho

3rd: Micah Johnson ILB, Kentucky

4th: Maurkice Pouncey/John Estes C, Florida/Hawaii

4th(comp): Jerrell Powe NT, Ole Miss

5th: Anthony Dixon/Brandon James RB, Mississippi St./Florida (If sproles leaves, its James, if not, then its Dixon)

7th: Chris Culliver FS, South Carolina
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Well I don't think we get a 4th for Igor. I'd say a 6th, maybe a 5th.

I like the mock, not too familiar with a lot of players yet, but I will watch a lot of college football this weekend! Anyways, I was going to save this mock until next Monday, but I thought I'd get some feedback now and improve it:

1. ILB Sean Weatherspoon - I don't see ILB as our biggest need, or even a top 3 need. However, Cooper, Burnett, and Siler will be entering the last year of their deals (with Dobbins up after this year). Weatherspoon can be groomed for a year and start the next.

2. DE/DT Corey Wootton - From what I have read, he sounds a lot like Castillo (doesn't hurt that they're both from Northwestern either). And yes, anyone who still hates Castillo, that is a good thing.
[I also do like Jones on paper, need to watch him some more]

3. RB Toby Gerhart - even if, by some miracle, Tomlinson and Sproles do return to the Chargers, I do not like our long term outlook. Gerhart is a mix between Jacob Hester and Ray Rice (if that even makes sense :p ).

4. WR/RS Bandon Banks - 5'6 return man from Kansas State in the 4th round? I need some more originality

5. OT Kyle Calloway - Potential starter at right tackle down the line. Big body helps in run game, quickness helps in pass protection.

6. (comp) QB Tim Hiller - good project QB who could turn into a Jim Sorgi once Volek leaves.

7. TE Nate Byham - Big blocking tight end that could compete for Manu's job quickly. Reminds me of Richard Quinn, who was taken by the Broncos in round 2.

Don't forget we have 2 additional draft picks in Hughes and Byrd next year. Byrd should compete for a roster spot right away, and Hughes will be in the mix for #4 corner.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys I don't think we'll get anything for Igor, since we signed Burnett. Wouldn't they in essence cancel each other out?
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Guys I don't think we'll get anything for Igor, since we signed Burnett. Wouldn't they in essence cancel each other out?


I think that it would cancel out for Goff since KC really overpaid him IMO.
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I don't know if Toby will be there in round 3 after his monster performance today. Bummer.
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The more i see this easley kid, the more he reminds me of legs mixed with Hines Ward.

But anyway, i have found the perfect replacement for Manu because it looks like he has slowed down alot. The kids name is Michael Hoomanawanui from Illinois. He is a huge samoan guy just like Manu (lol, but he's 6'5" 275 or so) and he has the same skill set (great blocker and a good red zone target).
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I don't know if Toby will be there in round 3 after his monster performance today. Bummer.


I'd say his stock maxes out at the mid-2nd unless someone falls in love with him like a team did with Brian Leonard a couple years ago. He's gonna run in the 4.5's, and this draft is so stacked with defensive talent that some of the skill position players are going to slide to the 2nd, which probably pushes him to the 3rd. I'd even wager that only 1 (2 at most) RB goes in the 1st. If Dwyer declares, I can't see him going in the 1st right now in spite of his production. Right now it's Spiller or Best, and it's really only the Pats and possibly the Hawks with the pick acquired from Denver that are even looking that direction in the 1st. The Pats would go Spiller because he is a considerably better pass-blocker (fits BB's demands much better... much like Kevin Faulk), and adds to their return game which makes Matt Slater somewhat expendable, freeing up a roster spot for them.

Someone please watch some tape on Hardesty and tell me I'm not seeing things. He looks like everything we wanted out of our boy this year... and reminds me a lot of Tashard Choice (with the same injury concerns that choice had in college, which have proved to not be an issue in the pro's because choice put on 5-7 pounds of muscle and spurred his durability big time).
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what is everyones thought on the RB situation? Do we let Sproles go and need another change of pace back, do we realize that LT is tanking and get his replacement, or get a powerback to make that 3 headed monster that we used to have w/ MT?
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I don't know if Toby will be there in round 3 after his monster performance today. Bummer.


I'd say his stock maxes out at the mid-2nd unless someone falls in love with him like a team did with Brian Leonard a couple years ago. He's gonna run in the 4.5's, and this draft is so stacked with defensive talent that some of the skill position players are going to slide to the 2nd, which probably pushes him to the 3rd. I'd even wager that only 1 (2 at most) RB goes in the 1st. If Dwyer declares, I can't see him going in the 1st right now in spite of his production. Right now it's Spiller or Best, and it's really only the Pats and possibly the Hawks with the pick acquired from Denver that are even looking that direction in the 1st. The Pats would go Spiller because he is a considerably better pass-blocker (fits BB's demands much better... much like Kevin Faulk), and adds to their return game which makes Matt Slater somewhat expendable, freeing up a roster spot for them.

Someone please watch some tape on Hardesty and tell me I'm not seeing things. He looks like everything we wanted out of our boy this year... and reminds me a lot of Tashard Choice (with the same injury concerns that choice had in college, which have proved to not be an issue in the pro's because choice put on 5-7 pounds of muscle and spurred his durability big time).


I actually realy like hardesty. He hasn't had the greatest carreer, but he's been great this year. I like the Choice comparison too. The only thing that i dont like from him is that he runs with too much fineness for his size, and sometimes doesn't gut out the tough yardage that he could.
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The LBC wrote:
AntonioGates wrote:
I don't know if Toby will be there in round 3 after his monster performance today. Bummer.


I'd say his stock maxes out at the mid-2nd unless someone falls in love with him like a team did with Brian Leonard a couple years ago. He's gonna run in the 4.5's, and this draft is so stacked with defensive talent that some of the skill position players are going to slide to the 2nd, which probably pushes him to the 3rd. I'd even wager that only 1 (2 at most) RB goes in the 1st. If Dwyer declares, I can't see him going in the 1st right now in spite of his production. Right now it's Spiller or Best, and it's really only the Pats and possibly the Hawks with the pick acquired from Denver that are even looking that direction in the 1st. The Pats would go Spiller because he is a considerably better pass-blocker (fits BB's demands much better... much like Kevin Faulk), and adds to their return game which makes Matt Slater somewhat expendable, freeing up a roster spot for them.

Someone please watch some tape on Hardesty and tell me I'm not seeing things. He looks like everything we wanted out of our boy this year... and reminds me a lot of Tashard Choice (with the same injury concerns that choice had in college, which have proved to not be an issue in the pro's because choice put on 5-7 pounds of muscle and spurred his durability big time).


I actually realy like hardesty. He hasn't had the greatest carreer, but he's been great this year. I like the Choice comparison too. The only thing that i dont like from him is that he runs with too much fineness for his size, and sometimes doesn't gut out the tough yardage that he could.


Ironically, that was my biggest knock on Choice when he came out of Ga Tech.
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The more i watch, the more that i think Deilman and Hardwick (aka, M Cow) need to be replaced, not Clary. Clary actually plays really hard, and supprisingly played well against Cole and that eagles pass rushers.
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I think that after this game, i have noticed a couple of HUGE differences in my thought of what was wrong with our team. After watching the game today, i really noticed a few things. First of all, we either need a new DC or we need Rivera to dial up some blitzes and stop playing a soft zone with our CB's and Safetiess and giving everyone the underneath rout. Also, because we could get a 1st and 3rd or so for merriman with the way he's playing now, there is no way we pass that offer up with the needs we have. (I dont blame the secondary for the success of the pass O today, i think its more on the DC and playing the soft zone, because u notice that they didn't really get beat at all). I also think that now DEILMAN is the one who needs to be replaced, not Clary. Clary plays really hard and now that i really watched him, isn't AS bad as i thought originally. Deilman however, hasn't had the same motor all year and he has been blown up and such almost all year. So with all that, i'm gonna do a mock with those new findings. I think that other then Merriman, we resign Dobbins, Travis Johnson, Manumaleuna, VJ, Floyd, McNeil, but NOT Osgood, Whiteherst, Kris Wilson, or sproles for whatever reason. I also think that we will bring in a rotational NT for a year or 2 untill Vaughn Martin is ready and after that just to be in the rotation with VM. So i think we will get a guy for a 2 year deal like John Jolly or Ryan Pickett from the packers.

1st: Jerry Hughes DE/OLB, TCU (We like those TCU guys here in SD and this kid is special. He has an unbelievable motor and is incredibly talented. He would make a great 3-4 OLB with the potential to be one of the best in the league, just needs to add a little more bulk to get up to around the 265 to 270 range. This kid is rising the HELL up draft boards, and i think he will be a mid first round pick.)

1st: Mike Iupati OG/OT, Idaho (This kid is BIG, MEAN and NASTY. He looks for and finds work wherever he goes and could be the nasty guy that we need to get our run blocking back on track)

2nd: Allen Bailey DE/DT, Miami (This kid is a pure AJ pick. He is a physical freak (6'4" 295 with 8% body fat) and runs a 4.7 forty. He is more of a project, but he has the strength/size/speed to be a GREAT 3-4 DE. He could take a year to develop, but after that, watch out for this kid, because he will be a force to be reckoned with along side of Castillo and Vaughn Martin (who i assume will be ready by at least the middle of next year).)

3rd: Ryan Mathews RB, Fresno (do i need to say any more about this kid. Great all around game, with good intangibles)

3rd: Maurkice Pouncey C, Florida (He is a big guy, who is really athletic and smart, with a great potential to be the leader of our OL like Hardwick is, its just that he will be able to play a full season most years unlike Hardwick)

4th: Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB/FS, Indiana (This kid is a great physical, cover corner who has ridiculously loose hips and the versatility to play both FS and CB which is key in our O. His intangibles reminds me of Scrabble)

5th(comp): 5th(comp): Darryl Sharpton/Pat Angerer ILB, Miami/Iowa (Great ILB's who are physical and shed blocks easily. Both are in the making to be great 3-4 ILB's.)

6th: Michael Smith RB, Arkansas (This kid is a Sproles CLONE, but needs to add about 10 lbs. He is ridiculously quick, and fast, and has surprising power (not as much as sproles, but if he can add the weight, then it might be). He would be a great KR/PR man and would keep the same dimention of our O that we would have lost with sproles.)

7th: Tony Moeaki TE, Iowa (He is very physical and has great hands. He has some injury concerns, but i think that this wont be as much of an issue as we think, since he hasn't really been badly hurt outside of this year. Would be a great H back/ TE with our system and a great weapon for rivers to use.)

UDFA: (I'm just using this to fill in some of the gaps that we kinda need but didn't draft)

Marcus Easly WR, Uconn (The more i see this kid, the more he reminds me of Legs. He's a big special teams guy who is fast, has great hands and is PHYSICAL. He LOVE to block and is great at it. He could be a good guy to replace Osgood when he leaves.)

Sean Canfield QB, Oregon State (We lose Whitehearst through FA's, and bring this guy back home as our 3rd QB (he went to Carlsbad HS in San Diego). He is a lefty with lots of potential but just isn't quite there with his arm strength/technique. He would benefit from a year in a NFL weight training system and coaching)

Michael Hoomanawanui TE, Illinois (This guy has an awesome name and plays alot like Manumaleuna. He would be a great Blocking TE and has soft hands)
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The more i watch, the more that i think Deilman and Hardwick (aka, M Cow) need to be replaced, not Clary. Clary actually plays really hard, and supprisingly played well against Cole and that eagles pass rushers.

Dielman's biggest problem in inconsistency so far. I don't know if it's because he is unfamiliar with MCow or because he is injured. I don't think he needs to be replaced after one bad season.

I didn't see who got beat on the sack on the first drive, but from the rest of the game Clary played very well again. He shut down tuck last week and had another great game today. He is not an All Pro or even a top 10 right tackle, but he is far from the weak link on this team. I'm not opposed to upgrading the spot, but right now I think it is a luxury.

I don't know if we will get a 1st and 3rd for Shawne. And I don't think we spend a 1st on an OLB for the second straight year.
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The more i watch, the more that i think Deilman and Hardwick (aka, M Cow) need to be replaced, not Clary. Clary actually plays really hard, and supprisingly played well against Cole and that eagles pass rushers.

Dielman's biggest problem in inconsistency so far. I don't know if it's because he is unfamiliar with MCow or because he is injured. I don't think he needs to be replaced after one bad season.

I didn't see who got beat on the sack on the first drive, but from the rest of the game Clary played very well again. He shut down tuck last week and had another great game today. He is not an All Pro or even a top 10 right tackle, but he is far from the weak link on this team. I'm not opposed to upgrading the spot, but right now I think it is a luxury.

I don't know if we will get a 1st and 3rd for Shawne. And I don't think we spend a 1st on an OLB for the second straight year.


Got to agree...

I would like to upgrade Clary... if for no other reason than to protect our $100M asset of a QB (who is playing like an MVP sleeper... even though the media is trying to all-but giftwrap it for Favre). Thing is... AJ has shown no pattern of behavior that leads me to suggest that he'll go offensive line early in this draft or any draft. So the best I think we can hope for is either lucking into a high value RT falling to us in the 3rd or later or AJ and Buddy unearthing another late round gem who will compete with Clary at RT and potentially push him for the spot (though it'll take a lot since the staff is rather high on Clary). If the guy plays in a comparable manner to Clary, then we could foreseeably see the team let Jeromey walk when his contract is up if he doesn't re-sign for what is essentially journeyman money.

Sorry, but I'm not trading Lights Out unless it puts us in a lock up position to get Rolando McClain AND another pick/player who will contribute immediately. Suffice to say, teams didn't/don't give our pass rush the same psychological respect as they do when Shawne's in the game. The only time you ever see a team go empty backfield against us with him in is when they're running double-TE, so that they can still chip/double Merriman.

As far as the mock goes...

- I can't see Matthews falling to the 3rd round, particularly the mid-to-late 3rd which is looking like where we'll be picking unless we lose out (even then, I think we've practically moved ourselves out of Top 10 status as is with 6 wins). If he comes out (he's a junior I believe), he's one of the few guys in this draft that can do everything and not just be a gimmick/utility guy (i.e. a 3rd down back, a potential receiver, a power back, a scat back). If we want him, we'll have to reach for him in the 2nd... and even then he may not be there. 4 HB's almost always go in the 1st day of the draft, so assuming all productive juniors declare that means Spiller, Best, Dwyer, and [u]Matthews[/i].

- If Allen Bailey declares, I'd all but guarantee he's a 1st rounder. He's basically Calais Campbell with better college production that wasn't given the opportunity to regress (Campbell stayed till his senior year, and his senior campaign was very lackluster compared to the two previous years because of the level of talent around him). With Arthur Jones now injured, Bailey has the prototypical 5-T size and speed, which with a good interview should be enough to vault him about guys like Marvin Austin and Vince Oghobaase, unless a team falls in love with one of those particular prospects.

- Iupati in the 1st... not AJ's style. And I'll be honest, in spite of the hype around Iupati, I'm not sure he's a 1st round prospect. He has holes in his game too, including getting just utterly overpowered in the Fresno State game this year and blown up pretty consistently. He's an ideal pulling-guard, but he may struggle to pull against stronger NFL tackles in straight up pass protection or power run blocking. Mike Johnson from Alabama is, right now, the better pure OG prospect because he's more polished. Also, like I said above... I have trouble seeing AJ going OL in the 1st or 2nd round considering how deep this draft is at the position and that it's never been his preference to go that route early.

- Owusu-Ansah... if he runs the 40 some are projecting, Al Davis will take him the 2nd... or at worst the 3rd. Teams are seeing the kind of success that small school DB's are having as long as they have the measurables and the ability to track the ball (along with obviously the speed to run with WR's). If he rebounds from this current injury, he's still got 3rd round stock. Not to mention that a lot of the mid-round CB's in 2010 are zone-corners, so teams that play man will start looking to the small school guys to find their man-corners.

- I actually love Angerer.

- I wouldn't expect us to draft 2 RB's. As is AJ's going to be struggling to find a roster spot for Hester to justify the trade/pick. If we do draft a RB early... 1st 3 rounds, then it likely means we're letting LT and Sproles walk. I'd expect to see Bennett kept on for one more year then, Hester moved almost exclusively to RB/H-Back type role, and Tolbert retained as fullbak (because he's a better fit than Hester is at this point). In the days of post-LT (whenever that is) I expect they'll give Hester one season to prove he can be the goal-line guy, and if he or someone else hasn't proven he can be that guy, they'll go out and get someone (though then it wouldn't surprise me to see AJ hit the market versus trust a rookie with the duty... as you want more dependable/less-fumble-likely hands on your goal-line guy).
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I think that you guys are right, thats just what i want us to do. So if i was gonna make a more realistic mock using AJ's style and knowing that he doesn't like Merrimam, i'm gonna think that we trade him reguardless and put the highest RFA tag on him (so a 1st and a 3rd) and someone overpays for him and we KEEP sproles but other then that, using the same assumptions i had last time.

1st: Rolando McClain ILB, Alabama (this kid is an absolute stud. He is as close as there is to a surefire prospect in this draft. He is big fast and physical and already has exp in the 3-4. He is the perfect pick here)

1st: Allen Bailey DE/DT, Miami (Again, the kid is a real AJ type pick. Freakish athleticism with amazing strength, along with the smarts and personality to boot. He is raw, but AJ has AMAZING trust in our DL coach and he has been doing a great job of turning these "AJ picks" into studs)

2nd: Jerry Hughes DE/OLB, TCU (this kid is a great pass rusher with an amazing motor, and is a real standup kid. He is another AJ pick and would bring in fresh legs to the pass rush with Merriman leaving. He will be a great rotational guy.)

3rd: Maurkice Pouncey C, Florida (He has good size who is athletic for how big he is, but at the same time possesses the smarts needed to command this OL. He would be a great backup for a while (which just means that he's the 2nd starter with Hardwick) and then could overtake him while he is playing with Hardwick out. Reminds me alot of Jaamal Brown from St. Louis who is one of the better C's.)

3rd: Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB/FS, Indiana (Like i said before, he is a big, physical CB who has the same type of physical skills as scrabble, where he can play both FS and CB)

4th: Ben Tate RB, Auburn (This kid is a decent sized back with good speed for his size (5'11" around 220 and runs in the mid to high 4.4's) and really good burst. He really likes contact, and if he can add about 5 to 10 lbs, then he could be a really good powerback)

5th(comp): Vladamire Ducasse OG/OT, UMass (This kid is pretty tallented, but raw and has a low level of talent around him/playing against him. He is pretty athletic, but i haven't seen him much. He could be a steal if he works hard like he is rumored to.)

6th: Cam Thomas NT, UNC (This kid is a beast, he's big, strong and decently athletic for his size. He would be able to rotate in at NT and hopefully learn a thing or two from one of the greats.)

7th: Tony Moeaki TE, Iowa (Like i said, he's a real physical guy who has great hands. Doesn't have the hight, but has about every other key tool for a TE, just cant stay healthy long enough to )

UDFA's: I'm gonna use the same thing for the UDFA's, except i'm gonna add one.

Marcus Easly WR, Uconn (The more i see this kid, the more he reminds me of Legs. He's a big special teams guy who is fast, has great hands and is PHYSICAL. He LOVE to block and is great at it. He could be a good guy to replace Osgood when he leaves.)

Sean Canfield QB, Oregon State (We lose Whitehearst through FA's, and bring this guy back home as our 3rd QB (he went to Carlsbad HS in San Diego). He is a lefty with lots of potential but just isn't quite there with his arm strength/technique. He would benefit from a year in a NFL weight training system and coaching)

Michael Hoomanawanui TE, Illinois (This guy has an awesome name and plays alot like Manumaleuna. He would be a great Blocking TE and has soft hands)

Jared Veldheer OT, Hillsdale (this kid is a beast. He has all the intangables that you could ask for with his 6'8" 321 lb frame and runs a 4.8. He is big, fast, smart and athletic. His biggest problem is how raw he is, but we have some good OL coaches and if he could get the technique down, then i think he could be a stud.)
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