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jetsfan4life51
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Stop making mocks with him. 1) You don't need to spend a 1st round pick on a BACKUP player. 2) He's never on the field to begin with.
Jenkins plays roughly around 60-65% of snaps. Sometimes he'll play half a game, sometimes 75%. Sione Pouha is a VERY capable backup. No need to draft a NT. Comparing him to other NTs he plays a lot. While Mt. Cody plays around 40% of snaps. Why draft someone who has trouble staying on the field? Then we'll need a backup for him too.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: For The Terrence Cody Lovers.... |
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| jetsfan4life51 wrote: | http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=355602
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Stop making mocks with him. 1) You don't need to spend a 1st round pick on a BACKUP player. 2) He's never on the field to begin with.
Jenkins plays roughly around 60-65% of snaps. Sometimes he'll play half a game, sometimes 75%. Sione Pouha is a VERY capable backup. No need to draft a NT. Comparing him to other NTs he plays a lot. While Mt. Cody plays around 40% of snaps. Why draft someone who has trouble staying on the field? Then we'll need a backup for him too. |
well first off he will not be a first round pick. He will be at the end of the second or third. Which is a great spot to pick him up. He will only be a back up for two to three years then he will take over because Jenkins only has a few years on his career. A big man like that having knee problems is not good. |
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jetsfan4life51
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: For The Terrence Cody Lovers.... |
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| jetfuel wrote: | | jetsfan4life51 wrote: | http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=355602
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Stop making mocks with him. 1) You don't need to spend a 1st round pick on a BACKUP player. 2) He's never on the field to begin with.
Jenkins plays roughly around 60-65% of snaps. Sometimes he'll play half a game, sometimes 75%. Sione Pouha is a VERY capable backup. No need to draft a NT. Comparing him to other NTs he plays a lot. While Mt. Cody plays around 40% of snaps. Why draft someone who has trouble staying on the field? Then we'll need a backup for him too. |
well first off he will not be a first round pick. He will be at the end of the second or third. Which is a great spot to pick him up. He will only be a back up for two to three years then he will take over because Jenkins only has a few years on his career. A big man like that having knee problems is not good. |
Obviously in the 2nd or 3rd round there is good value, but like I said you don't spend a 1st round pick on a guy who is going to be a backup and doesn't play much anyway. Jenkins easily has 3+ years left. You don't draft a guy to backup then not start until his 4th year! He's going to have to go to a team with a very good strength and conditioning program.
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Thank you. Got tired of telling everyone he's overrated.
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| Karmaloop wrote: | | Thank you. Got tired of telling everyone he's overrated. |
I'm not so sure he's overated as much that we have bigger needs. While in the off-season I wanted a good backup to Jenkins, now that Pouha seems to be very capable its less of a need. I'd say that DE is a huge need for us, along with guard. If we could get Cody in th 2nd or 4rd then do it, but not in the 1st.
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| ukjets21 wrote: | | Karmaloop wrote: | | Thank you. Got tired of telling everyone he's overrated. |
I'm not so sure he's overated as much that we have bigger needs. While in the off-season I wanted a good backup to Jenkins, now that Pouha seems to be very capable its less of a need. I'd say that DE is a huge need for us, along with guard. If we could get Cody in th 2nd or 4rd then do it, but not in the 1st. |
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Personally I look at him as a 2nd round project. He needs to lose weight and become stronger, which is tough to say for a NT but he will need to if he wants to be an NFL player. Cody needs to lose 20 pounds and hope to gain a little back in muscle weight; he needs to be in better shape. So in my opinion, if he can get into better shape he can become more versatile player as a DT and DE, but obviously he would be a traditional NT. There's no question in my mind that he has the talent, but like those numbers show he needs to get on the field more by getting him body in tip top shape
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| Quote: | | Why draft someone who has trouble staying on the field? Then we'll need a backup for him too. |
I thought that was part of the plan? More backup NTs.
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| Davey wrote: | | Quote: | | Why draft someone who has trouble staying on the field? Then we'll need a backup for him too. |
I thought that was part of the plan? More backup NTs. |
We must address the backup TE spot first. Were losing because we don't have a TE who can block AND catch. Having two that can only do one each is seriously holding this team back.
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| Jetsman82 wrote: | | Davey wrote: | | Quote: | | Why draft someone who has trouble staying on the field? Then we'll need a backup for him too. |
I thought that was part of the plan? More backup NTs. |
We must address the backup TE spot first. Were losing because we don't have a TE who can block AND catch. Having two that can only do one each is seriously holding this team back. |
jetsman82 I have told you countless times that you cannot overlook the backup fulback position lol
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| yordmachine wrote: | | ukjets21 wrote: | | Karmaloop wrote: | | Thank you. Got tired of telling everyone he's overrated. |
I'm not so sure he's overated as much that we have bigger needs. While in the off-season I wanted a good backup to Jenkins, now that Pouha seems to be very capable its less of a need. I'd say that DE is a huge need for us, along with guard. If we could get Cody in th 2nd or 4rd then do it, but not in the 1st. |
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Yeah, I've only seen Alabama twice this season and he seemed very good both times. His stamina is obviously a huge issue, but with a good NFL team that could be sorted out and his physical dominance is very impressive. Any 3-4 team that wouldn't have Cody on their team is just being a bit silly if you ask me. And I know you can't judge a NT off this but his 2 FG blocks show his ability well. I don't see a problem with him besides the stamina issues.
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| ukjets21 wrote: | | yordmachine wrote: | | ukjets21 wrote: | | Karmaloop wrote: | | Thank you. Got tired of telling everyone he's overrated. |
I'm not so sure he's overated as much that we have bigger needs. While in the off-season I wanted a good backup to Jenkins, now that Pouha seems to be very capable its less of a need. I'd say that DE is a huge need for us, along with guard. If we could get Cody in th 2nd or 4rd then do it, but not in the 1st. |
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Yeah, I've only seen Alabama twice this season and he seemed very good both times. His stamina is obviously a huge issue, but with a good NFL team that could be sorted out and his physical dominance is very impressive. Any 3-4 team that wouldn't have Cody on their team is just being a bit silly if you ask me. And I know you can't judge a NT off this but his 2 FG blocks show his ability well. I don't see a problem with him besides the stamina issues. |
yea u know what there are questins with is durability, but there are questions with every player entering the draft, if u have watched him play, u know that he is just a monster, and can't be blocked. I really like his athletic ability for such a big man, and you know he is gonna get whooped into shape during training camp after he enters the NFl, I really feel he could be a successfull player in this league. Do I think he is a good risk for the Jets to take... no, but there is no way that he slpis out of the first round.
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Jenkins coming back is no sure thing. He's had injury problems already and this could be the one that does him in. I like Cody and would be happy with him.
With that said, I want to address DE or OLB in the first. Arthur Jones would be a great pick, as would Allen Bailey or Brandon Graham. Sergio Kindle is also an interesting option as he could bring a lot of pass rushing ability to our D. |
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