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Big7BenMVP


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing about Ricardo Rodriguez, is that this isn't the first season he's pitched in the majors. He got called up in 2002 by the Cleveland Indians, and he went 2-2 with a 5.66 ERA. He was called up in 2003 by the Indians, and was horrible as well. He went 3-9 with a 5.73 ERA that season. For goodness sake, the guy allowed 16 Home Runs in 2003, in just 15 starts. Then he got called up in 2004 by the Rangers, and was 3-1 with a 2.02 ERA. For his career, he's just 10-13 with a 5.02 ERA. That's not anything for the Yankees to get happy about because they beat him. Here's the comparison between Ricardo Rodriguez and Ervin Santana, in the minor leagues.

Ricardo Rodriguez (166 games; 94 starts) = 48-29, 3.13 ERA, 8 CG, 2 Saves, 603.3 IP, 524 Hits Allowed, 281 Runs Allowed, 210 Earned Runs Allowed, 39 HRs Allowed, 252 Walks, 561 Ks, 11 Wild Pitches, 7.82 Hits Per 9 Allowed, 0.58 HRs Per 9 Allowed, 3.76 Walks Per 9 Allowed, 8.37 Ks Per 9, 1.29 WHIP

Ervin Santana (34 games; 34 starts) = 13-4, 2.91 ERA, 1 CG, 198.0 IP, 162 Hits Allowed, 78 Runs Allowed, 64 Earned Runs Allowed, 16 HRs Allowed, 66 Walks Allowed, 201 Ks, 20 Wild Pitches, 7.36 Hits Per 9 Allowed, 0.73 HRs Per 9 Allowed, 3.00 Walks Per 9 Allowed, 9.14 Ks Per 9, 1.15 WHIP

As you can see, Ervin Santana was far more dominant. Even though it was in less starts, he still put up great numbers. Ervin Santana averaged a K/BB ratio of 3.05/1. Ricardo Rodriguez averaged a K/BB ratio of only 2.22/1. So that tells you the supreme comand that Ervin Santana has.
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Yankees05


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My whole point was how naive Rodriguez was when he pitched against New York. I didn't think we dominated a great pitcher when we scored a lot of runs on him. I didn't realize Santana wasn't a rookie, and I thought Rodriguez was relativley inexperienced. All I meant by the comparison between the two was the inexperience against MLB hitters.
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iavikefn


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yankees05 wrote:
How about everyone stops awarding the AL East crown to the Red Sox with 70 games left. The Yankees are in 1st place with 3 starters right now, so when they get Pavano and Wang back, they have a real chance of winning the division. Stop writting of the division leader...


Wang isn't coming back buddy. Pavano hasn't been the same as he was in Florida. Another guy the Yanks overpayed for.
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PanthersIn05


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iavikefn wrote:
Yankees05 wrote:
How about everyone stops awarding the AL East crown to the Red Sox with 70 games left. The Yankees are in 1st place with 3 starters right now, so when they get Pavano and Wang back, they have a real chance of winning the division. Stop writting of the division leader...


Wang isn't coming back buddy. Pavano hasn't been the same as he was in Florida. Another guy the Yanks overpayed for.


Yeah, that is well said. Lets not forget Pavano was roughed up in the game that eventually was 17-1 against the Sox... the first time.
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FrankCastle51573


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In NL matchups at their home, does Ortiz still play for Boston? Like 1st base or something.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FrankCastle51573 wrote:
In NL matchups at their home, does Ortiz still play for Boston? Like 1st base or something.


Yeah, he plays first base. He is poor at first, but you can't leave that bat on the bench for Kevin Millar Very Happy
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