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davisblack


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Damn it davisblack. Great pick.



Thanks, I wanted Wall or Nash with that pick and i'm kind of glad Wall was gone because I know I would have taken him and then I would have had two injured PG's.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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John Wall, PG


John Wall has been a lot of hype. He has showed he can live up to it at times and then disappeared a bit compared to the hype at times.

He can be borderline top 5 in pts at PG. He can be borderline top 10 in steals. He will likely lead the PGs in blocks or come close to it as a tremendous athlete.

Now come the knocks. For playing the PG position he offers zero 3 pt range. His FG% is below 42% on his career and he is hurt and injury risk.

However he is still only 22 years old in a Wash lineup where he will get a lot of minutes when healthy. The lack of another major scoring threat will make it easy for teams to double him however.

Ton of risk but ton of upside

Overall: B
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lionsfanforever:

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Andre Iguodala SF


Iggy was a very crucial key to my team last year. He never really has a sexy night if you are looking for him to dominate a stat line. However he literally touches every single stat cat.

He wont do much in terms of 3PM

However last year for SG he was

#1 reb
#5 Assists
#3 steals
#15 blocks

and chipped in 12 pts a game in boring offense.


At SF he still ranked decent too

#10 Reb
#2 assists only behind King Lebron
#2 in steals only behind King Lebron


His major knock last year was just points. However he was traded to the Nuggets!!! Wow. Iggy value just went thru the roof.

Philly was 22nd in league in scoring and Den was ....drum roll.....#1!!


So his only flaw is going to become better by being in an attacking offense which suits his skillset.


This pick excites me the most because I think he can become a good 15-18 pt a night guy and still fill the other stats. Wish I had Iggy back and was hoping he would fall to 2nd round because of his non-sexy stat line last year.

Grade: A+
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Steve Nash, PG


Mixed emotions on this one all the way around.

He is a lock for top 5 PG in assists. I think he will get top 3 with those weapons. He will get occasional 3 pt and steal but not a lot. I also not sure how his scoring will do with Gasol, Kobe and Dwight Howard taking most of the points.

He wont kill your FT or FG % though so that is a plus.

Just not sure he is worth Assists, FT% and FG% and not much else. Verdict still out until I see how he fits in there.

Grade: B-
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its A Sabotage:

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Ryan Anderson, PF


Ryan Anderson was another guy I relied on heavily. With Ibaka able to almost win me blocks alone, Ryan Anderson was my 3 pt machine. I felt real good every match-up in those two cats with those two guys.

Questions surround him moving from Orl now though.

He will get 3s, chip in rebounds and hit 15-18 pts a night. His FG% is not the greatest and not really sure how he fits in with NO. They should be down a lot in games and he will be jacking up that 3 though.

Grade: B-
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1King:


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Chris Bosh, PF/C, Miami Heat


Well after reaching on Davis big time in the 1st round 1king comes back with a slight value pick here.

The C position is becoming very thin very fast and Bosh was best available IMO. Partly to do with his PF dual elig.

Bosh had a couple big games for the Heat in the playoffs.

He will always be the 3rd option there in Miami with Wade and Lebron so his value has taken a hit from a couple years back.

For a guy who plays the C and PF spot you would like to see more then .8 blocks per game though. He is still going to be one of the top 10 scoring options at the C position. A stat that is hiding for him is he is a top FT% C so he will not hurt you in that department at all.


If he can get his blocks up his value rises.

Grade: B
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think you are knocking Nash's grade too much due to uncertainty compared to your assessment of the Anderson and Iguodala picks who face as much or more uncertainty than Nash does.

Nash has a significant positive impact in assists, FG%, FT%, a good impact in points, 3PM, and is a decent rebounder for a PG as well. Blocks and steals are the only categories he doesn't touch, though his steals could go up with Dwight and Pau behind him to block shots.

I'd expect Nash to do something like

11-15 points
9+ assists
3-4 rebounds
50+ FG%
90+ FT%
1.5ish 3FG
1 SPG
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grading recap

ROUND 1
--------------------------------
1. X - Paul Millsap PF

A+

2. LFF - Amare Stoudemire, PF/C

B-

3. Phreak - Ty Lawson SG, PG

A+

4. db - Rudy Gay SF

A+

5. Sabo - Loul Deng SF

B-

6. 1King - Anthony Davis PF/C

C

7. YLY - Greg Monroe C

A-

8. 703


9. Sllim - Pau Gasol, PF/C

A++


10. Phreak - Stephen Curry SG,PG


A-



ROUND 2
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1. X- John Wall PG

B

2. LFF- Andre Iguodala SF/SG

A+


3. Detfan- David Lee C

wont grade my own as I am bias. Probably would give it a B- because I missed Gasol, Curry and Iggy


4. db- Steve Nash- PG

B-


5. Sabo- Ryan Anderson, PF

B-


6. 1King- Chris Bosh, PF/C


B
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1King wrote:
Think you are knocking Nash's grade too much due to uncertainty compared to your assessment of the Anderson and Iguodala picks who face as much or more uncertainty than Nash does.

Nash has a significant positive impact in assists, FG%, FT%, a good impact in points, 3PM, and is a decent rebounder for a PG as well. Blocks and steals are the only categories he doesn't touch, though his steals could go up with Dwight and Pau behind him to block shots.

I'd expect Nash to do something like

11-15 points
9+ assists
3-4 rebounds
50+ FG%
90+ FT%
1.5ish 3FG
1 SPG


Iggy really has no uncertainty. He will fill all stats. Anderson will be one of top couple scoring options on his team. That is the difference.

Nash will be at best the 4th option. I like him at the PG position no doubt.

B- is not a bad grade. Some owners I gave B- in the first round.

Did not really grade myself but gave myself a B-
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least I know I am evaluating players fairly well. My BB is almost going down in order Sad

I was really hoping Nash would drop due to uncertainty and age. Him and Anderson were my next big targets.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's a little late, but should we auto pick BPA for the missed pick? I get that it sucks he hasn't shown up but all skipping him does is make him not want to play all year and his team would suck so finding a replacement would be tough.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sllim Pickens wrote:
I know it's a little late, but should we auto pick BPA for the missed pick? I get that it sucks he hasn't shown up but all skipping him does is make him not want to play all year and his team would suck so finding a replacement would be tough.


Lets wait til he is OTC again. Could be another 24 hours and he is active poster
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There may be a point where I autopick for him, but that wasn't the rules and I am in no rush yet.

With any luck at this point he will realize he needs to pick high ceiling players and hope for the best, which will work out one way or the other. I don't think 703 will be bailing on us, so I doubt a replacement is a worry. But we can work it out if the situation presents itself.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
Sllim Pickens wrote:
I know it's a little late, but should we auto pick BPA for the missed pick? I get that it sucks he hasn't shown up but all skipping him does is make him not want to play all year and his team would suck so finding a replacement would be tough.


Lets wait til he is OTC again. Could be another 24 hours and he is active poster

He doesn't go OTC again until he gets his picks caught up. I see no reason to wait on someone that already has a skipped pick to make up.

Besides, BPA is awful fuzzy from all the BBs I have Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FootballPhreak wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Sllim Pickens wrote:
I know it's a little late, but should we auto pick BPA for the missed pick? I get that it sucks he hasn't shown up but all skipping him does is make him not want to play all year and his team would suck so finding a replacement would be tough.


Lets wait til he is OTC again. Could be another 24 hours and he is active poster

He doesn't go OTC again until he gets his picks caught up. I see no reason to wait on someone that already has a skipped pick to make up.

Besides, BPA is awful fuzzy from all the BBs I have Shocked


I am saying after the pick before his he should have another 12 hours right?

Not sure why he wouldnt go back on the clock for 12 hours when it is his pick again
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