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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's another one who's pretty good. They were talking about him pre game.
Can't remember his name right now
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justo wrote:
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Kiko & Clay >>>>
I don't think they are better than Stanford's squad though do you? Kiko is pretty underrated. Been a fan of his since he played HS with my cousins and they swore by him. Glad he finally showed up since the Rose Bowl because that he's pretty much just been a spring game legend Laughing

I think Stanford's LBs have been overrated these past few years. Skov is the exception, but I haven't seen him enough since coming back from his injury. All I know is that Kiko and Clay are damn good. Best LB tandem t hat I've seen since I've been following the Ducks.

I might be bit biased, though. I love the fact that Kiko (I think?), Clay, and Skov have connections with Mexico. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clay does too? I think Kiko's fam is from Mexico and Skov's dad like fled the country when the economy broke, right?

You mean best UO LB's or best LB's in the nation? Because saying they are the best UO LB's isn't saying much Laughing that's probably our worst all time position as far as college prestige and NFL draft picks.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than Oregon. And possibly Oregon state. Pac12 teams are streaky and inconsistent.
Toilollo again with an amazing grab. Love that man
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Clay does too? I think Kiko's fam is from Mexico and Skov's dad like fled the country when the economy broke, right?

You mean best UO LB's or best LB's in the nation? Because saying they are the best UO LB's isn't saying much Laughing that's probably our worst all time position as far as college prestige and NFL draft picks.

Yeah, Clay's mom is Mexican and Spanish was his first language.
http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/index.ssf/2011/11/oregon_linebacker_michael_clay.html

Skov learned to play football in Mexico. He said they hit harder down there. Laughing
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/the_bonus/10/28/shayne.skov/

And yes, at Oregon. I really really like Kko and Clay, but admit that I'm biased.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nunes finally learning how to play qb at the farm. Throw to a te every Time. Haha

Lets see if their d can do anything.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, Clay's mom is Mexican and Spanish was his first language.
http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/index.ssf/2011/11/oregon_linebacker_michael_clay.html
Shocked didn't know that. Yeah I can't think of a UO LB corp I would put over the one we have now. That being said I've only watched football since middle school so that's like 2006. I wouldn't put Casey over either of them. I do remember some Bacon guy being pretty good during the Dixon era IIRC.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like ucla is going to lose tonight. Continuing with the pac12 pattern
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Oregon with win #9 in a row over Washington...awesome.
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Be prepared for a long post

Standings

North
Oregon 3-0 6-0
Oregon State 3-0 4-0
Stanford 2-1 4-1
Washington 1-1 3-2
California 1-2 2-4
Washington State 0-3 2-4

South
Arizona State 2-0 4-1
USC 2-1 4-1
Colorado 1-1 1-4
UCLA 1-2 4-2
Utah 0-2 2-3
Arizona 0-3 3-3

Justo's Power rankings:
#1 #1N Oregon
#2 #1S USC (lost to Stanford)
#3 #2N Oregon State
#4 #3N Stanford (lost to UW)
#5 #2S Arizona State (lost to Mizzou)
#6 #3S Arizona (lost to UO, OS, Stanford)
#7 #4S UCLA (lost to OS, Cal)
#8 #4N Washington (lost to UO, LSU)
#9 #5N California (lost to Nevada, Ohio St, USC, ASU)
#10 #5S Utah (lost to Utah St, ASU, USC)
#11 #6N Washington State (lost to BYU, Colorado, UO, OS)
#12 #6S Colorado (lost to Colorado St, Sacramento St, Fresno St, UCLA)

Think the North is better but it's top heavy. Cal and Washington State aren't very good and Washington is the cut off for bowl teams IMO.


Swing Games (decided by 8 points or less)
There is a theory that good teams win close games, there is a theory that one score games are pretty much luck. This is me keeping track of those games for the Pac 12.

Oregon: 0 games
Best Case: 6-0 3-0
Worst Case: 6-0 3-0
Actual Case: 6-0 3-0

Oregon State: 3 games (Wisconsin, @ UCLA, @ Arizona)
Best Case: 4-0 3-0
Worst Case: 1-3 1-2 (-3, -2)
Actual Case: 4-0 3-0

Washington: 1 game (Stanford)
Best Case: 3-2 1-1
Worst Case: 2-3 0-2 (-1, -1)
Actual Case: 3-2 1-1

Stanford: 3 games (San Jose State, USC, @ Washington)
Best Case: 5-0 3-0 (+1 +1)
Worst Case: 2-3 1-2 (-2 -1)
Actual Case: 4-1 2-1

California: 2 games (Nevada, @ Ohio State)
Best Case: 4-2 1-2 (+2 +0)
Worst Case: 2-4 1-2
Actual Case: 2-4 1-2

Washington State: 3 games (Eastern Washington, @ UNLV, Colorado)
Best Case: 3-3 1-2 (+1 +1)
Worst Case: 0-6 0-3 (-2 -0)
Actual Case: 2-4 0-3

Arizona State: 1 game (@ Missouri)
Best Case: 5-0 2-0 (+1 +0)
Worst Case: 4-1 2-0
Actual Case: 4-1 2-0

USC: 1 game (@ Stanford)
Best Case: 5-0 3-0 (+1 +1)
Worst Case: 4-1 2-1
Actual Case: 4-1 2-1

Colorado: 3 games (Colorado State, Sacramento State, @ Washington State)
Best Case: 3-2 1-1 (+2 +0)
Worst Case: 0-5 0-2 (-1 -1)
Actual Case: 1-4 1-1

UCLA: 2 games (Nebraska, Oregon State)
Best Case: 5-1 2-1 (+1 +1)
Worst Case: 3-3 1-2 (-1 0)
Actual Case: 4-2 1-2

Utah: 2 games (@ Utah State, BYU)
Best Case: 3-2 0-2 (+1 +0)
Worst Case: 1-4 0-2 (-1 +0)
Actual Case: 2-3 0-2

Arizona: 3 games (Toledo, Oregon State, @ Stanford)
Best Case: 5-1 2-1 (+2 +2)
Worst Case: 2-4 0-3 (-1 +0)
Actual Case: 3-3 0-3

Best Case Rankings
6-0 Oregon
5-0 Stanford, Arizona State, USC
4-0 Oregon State
5-1 UCLA, Arizona
4-2 California
3-2 Washington, Colorado, Utah
3-3 Washington State

Worst Case Rankings
6-0 Oregon
4-1 Arizona State, USC
3-3 UCLA
2-3 Washington, Stanford
2-4 California, Arizona
1-3 Oregon State
1-4 Utah
0-5 Colorado
0-6 Washington State

Best Case Rankings (Pac 12)
3-0 Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, USC
2-0 Arizona State
2-1 UCLA, Arizona
1-1 Washington, Colorado
1-2 California, Washington State
0-2 Utah

Worst Case Rankings (Pac 12)
3-0 Oregon
2-0 Arizona State
2-1 USC
1-2 Oregon State, Stanford, California, UCLA
0-2 Washington, Colorado, Utah
0-3 Washington State, Arizona

Swing Games
0-Oregon
1-Washington, Arizona State, USC
2-California, UCLA, Utah
3-Oregon State, Stanford, Washington State, Colorado, Arizona

Conference Swing Games
0-Oregon, Arizona State, California, Utah
1-Washington, Colorado, USC, UCLA, Washington State
2-Oregon State, Stanford, Arizona

Luck %
100-Washington (1), Oregon State (3)
66-Stanford (3)
50-UCLA (2), Utah (2)
33-Washington State (3), Colorado (3), Arizona (3)
0-USC (1), Arizona State (1), California (2)
TBA-Oregon

Conference Luck %
100-Washington (1), Oregon State (2), Colorado (1)
50-Stanford (2)
0-USC (1), UCLA (1), Washington State (1), Arizona (2)
TBA-Oregon, Arizona State, California, Utah

Week 6 Schedule*
Arizona State @ Colorado (Thursday 6 PM) ESPN
Utah @ UCLA (12 PM) FOX
Oregon State @ BYU (12:30 PM) ABC
Stanford @ Notre Dame (12:30 PM) NBC
USC @ Washington (4:00 PM) FOX
California @ Washington State (7:30 PM) PAC 12 Network
BYE-Oregon, Arizona
*all times Pacific

5/6 Pac 12 games are nationally shown games this week. Solid.

Predictions
Arizona State @ Colorado
Utah @ UCLA
Oregon State @ BYU
Stanford @ Notre Dame
USC @ Washington
California @ Washington State

Arizona State just overmatches Colorado even on a home Thursday night game on national TV. I don't think Utah matches up against UCLA although they did put up a fight against the more talented cross-town rival. Oregon State is going to Provo to face BYU, who ever the QB for BYU isn't going to be able to handle the suffocating defense the Beavers have this year. Notre Dame is going to expose Stanford even more IMO. Stanford had to overcome so much to even win at home during homecoming to Arizona this week and Notre Dame is much more talented. USC is too much for UW although I'm going to be rooting hard for the Huskies on Saturday. Washington State pulls an upset over the weirdest team in the Pac 12. Cal gets pretty much handled by all other Pac 12 teams besides UCLA so far, loses close to Ohio State, and lost to Nevada too. Such a weird team.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking of the All Pac 12 team and this is what I got for the skill positions
QB Taylor Kelly Arizona State (92/137 67.2% 1292 9 TD 2 Int 7 Sack) 5 games
RB Johnathan Franklin UCLA (108 800 3 TD) 6 games
RB Kenjon Barner Oregon (116 727 9 TD) 6 games
WR Marqise Lee USC (52 649 7 TD) 5 games
WR Markus Wheaton Oregon State (36 498 4 TD) 4 games
TE Chris Coyle Arizona State (26 338 2 TD) 5 games
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AP Poll
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/?xid=sbnation

#2 Oregon
#10 Oregon State
#11 USC
#17 Stanford
#31 Arizona State
#31 Washington
#34 Arizona


Coaches Poll
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/coaches/

#2 Oregon (1)
#9 USC
#14 Oregon State
#17 Stanford
#26 Arizona State
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ugly performance yesterday...defense single handedly won that game
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Colorado could actually win this game because we play well at home on Thursday night games. But ASU is a program, along with USC that CU has never beaten out of the Pac-12.
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broncosfan07 wrote:
Colorado could actually win this game because we play well at home on Thursday night games. But ASU is a program, along with USC that CU has never beaten out of the Pac-12.
I don't think ASU is the team you guys are going to catch napping. I think they could upset UO to be totally honest. That pass rush is insane right now
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