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PackFan4Life
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[quote="Pack4life7"]It's an awesome time to be a Packer fan.
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It ALWAYS is, seriously, the alternative is just not very intelligent.  |
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TheGreatZepp
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| PackFan4Life wrote: | | Pack4life7 wrote: | | It's an awesome time to be a Packer fan. |
It ALWAYS is, seriously, the alternative is just not very intelligent. |
I don't know the 1970's and 1980's were a bit rough for Packers fans. Not only were they never a threat to win it all but the 70's were rife with Vikings Super Bowl appearances (albeit they lost all four) and the 80's had that Super Bowl Shuffle and the horrors associated with it.
Even with two down decades possibly the worst time for me started with the Rhodes year and continued through the Sherman era and not because the team wasn't talented, it was. It sucked knowing that the team SHOULD be a favorite for the Super Bowl but knowing that the lack of discipline, poor play calling and one(or four) idiotic decisions by the quarterback was going to ensure the season ended prematurely.
Back to what matters most, Aaron Rodgers singlehandedly swung a life-long born and raised Bears fan into a devoted, #12 wearing Packerite therefore allowing our marriage to exist and freeing me from ever having to enact football law if any argument over what team they are raised cheering for should any offspring be the result of said union. 
It's over, Zooey's defenses are down, she doesn't stand a chance.
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GBPACKMAN4LIFE
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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"Nice commercial."
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Willink
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Kacsmar is basically trolling at this point:
http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_5420_Aaron_Rodgers%3A_Mr._Irrelevant_in_fourth_quarter.htm
| Quote: | | Green Bay does an incredible job of keeping almost every game close, but they just do not finish enough of them with wins |
There's our problem. We don't win enough games?
| Quote: | | They did go 15-1 last year (expected: 11.9), but that was more due to the defense shutting teams down late rather than the offense making critical scoring drives when they had to. |
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PackFan4Life
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone see The Brees contract and think to themselves oh crap thinking about Arod's next one? |
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TheGreatZepp
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| PackFan4Life wrote: | | Anyone see The Brees contract and think to themselves oh crap thinking about Arod's next one? |
A little, I don't think it's quite the same though. Brees had a lot of leverage and I qould expect Rodgers contract to be an extension and not a resign. Brees was out of Franchise Tags after this one, the team had to sign him or let him be a FA next year, while dealing with this offseason's drama. Brees held a lot of cards in this negotiation, heck he'll practically be their offensive coordinator this season.
Most important though is that a lot of these record contracts have inflated values with unlikely to be paid bonuses and such, Brees' real number could be $10-$15 million less. Thompson and his people seem to be at one end of the the spectrum where contracts are closest to reflecting their real value where say a team like the Eagles and their old GM handed out huge contracts that looked shiny and made players happy but had lots of unlikely to be paid out money; Brees' contract could be at this spectrum end or it could be real money that he got while he had the team bent over, either way I'm not too concerned that Rodgers' contract negotiations take the same path with the same amount.
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spilltray
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| TheGreatZepp wrote: | | PackFan4Life wrote: | | Anyone see The Brees contract and think to themselves oh crap thinking about Arod's next one? |
A little, I don't think it's quite the same though. Brees had a lot of leverage and I qould expect Rodgers contract to be an extension and not a resign. Brees was out of Franchise Tags after this one, the team had to sign him or let him be a FA next year, while dealing with this offseason's drama. Brees held a lot of cards in this negotiation, heck he'll practically be their offensive coordinator this season.
Most important though is that a lot of these record contracts have inflated values with unlikely to be paid bonuses and such, Brees' real number could be $10-$15 million less. Thompson and his people seem to be at one end of the the spectrum where contracts are closest to reflecting their real value where say a team like the Eagles and their old GM handed out huge contracts that looked shiny and made players happy but had lots of unlikely to be paid out money; Brees' contract could be at this spectrum end or it could be real money that he got while he had the team bent over, either way I'm not too concerned that Rodgers' contract negotiations take the same path with the same amount. |
Also from listening to Rodgers speak about contracts when asked, he seems to realize that not trying to squeeze the team for every dollar it's got might mean the team is better which = more wins, which = more national exposure = which = more money in the long run. I'm not saying he won't want a "fair" contract but I don't anticipate it being like this Brees situation where he is trying to milk it or everything he can.
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Packers FTW
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| He may very well set records on his new contract but I think theres a small possibility that he might blow peoples minds and take a considerable amount less than he could potentially demand. |
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ChaRisMa
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Take Rodgers' current contract, (Rounding up, it's 3 years and 30 Million), and add five years and 101 Million.
Rodgers contract breaks down to this for the next eight years (his career)
8 Years, 131 Mil. 16.375 Mil. Steal?
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ajdodge09
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| Willink wrote: | | Quote: | | They did go 15-1 last year (expected: 11.9), but that was more due to the defense shutting teams down late rather than the offense making critical scoring drives when they had to. |
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That is literally the exact opposite of what actually happened.
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CentralFC
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Hilarious.
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WIsportsfan
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| Willink wrote: | Kacsmar is basically trolling at this point:
http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_5420_Aaron_Rodgers%3A_Mr._Irrelevant_in_fourth_quarter.htm
| Quote: | | Green Bay does an incredible job of keeping almost every game close, but they just do not finish enough of them with wins |
There's our problem. We don't win enough games?
| Quote: | | They did go 15-1 last year (expected: 11.9), but that was more due to the defense shutting teams down late rather than the offense making critical scoring drives when they had to. |
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...this may be the first time I've seen someone give any credit to last years defense. What games was the guy watching? Is he related to Skip Bayless at all? |
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CentralFC
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TheGreatZepp
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| CentralFC wrote: | http://blogs.greenbaypressgazette.com/blogs/gpg/insider/2012/07/16/bennett-jay-cutler-better-than-aaron-rodgers/
Gets better and better. |
Eh, can't really knock a WR for pumping up his own QB, especially when they've been teammates and friends since college.
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DavidatMIZZOU
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| TheGreatZepp wrote: | | CentralFC wrote: |
Gets better and better. |
Eh, can't really knock a WR for pumping up his own QB, especially when they've been teammates and friends since college. |
Yes you can when it is demonstrably wrong. Just as we made fun of Desmond Bishop saying the was the third best LB in the league, this deserves ridicule, because it is absurd.
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