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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:22 pm    Post subject: The Chelsea FC Thread Part 4:That hurt Frank Reply with quote

Time for a new thread. Discuss all things Chelsea(such as our impending acquisition of Paul Pogba) here.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First!
I called dibs on the next one. Laughing

In Pogba is in fact available Id take him in a heartbeat. When you have the chance to add a worldclass 21 year old in a position of need you take it. We have played 4-3-3 a lot, its not like we are married to the pivot. When we play with Oscar or Willian as tens its basically a 4-3-3 anyway with how far they track back and how deep they come to get the ball. Im all for giving youth a chance, but theres not much to write home about at CM out on loan or in youth set up. Closest thing for me is Loftus-Cheek , but his attitude is a good bit off
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell yes to Pogba.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we do sign Pogba, we really need to offload a couple of players, would be kind of dumb to go in to the season with so many CM's:

- John Obi Mikel
- Ramires
- Marco Van Ginkel
- Nemaja Matic
- Oscar
- Cesc Fabregas
- Oriol Romeu
- Josh McEachran
- Nathaniel Chalobah
- Mario Palasic

Man United must hate us right now...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh, Chalobah and Pasalic will be on loan so they're out. Mikel or Ramires or even both will probably be sold. Same with Romeu being sold as well
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

QuinneyluvsNFL wrote:
If we do sign Pogba, we really need to offload a couple of players, would be kind of dumb to go in to the season with so many CM's:

- John Obi Mikel
- Ramires
- Marco Van Ginkel
- Nemaja Matic
- Oscar
- Cesc Fabregas
- Oriol Romeu
- Josh McEachran
- Nathaniel Chalobah
- Mario Palasic

Man United must hate us right now...


Not sure how jealous I'd be of a lot of them. Matic, Oscar, Fabregas and Pogba yeah. The rest are average or worse.
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What boggles my mind is that our only successful to come to through the ranks is John Terry and that was in 1998. You can't tell me that the reason that is the case is because the youth aren't good enough. No that is not the case especially given the way our youth system has grown.

Im not asking us to be Barcelona or Ajax but I least would like to see more success from the youth system.
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reckless123 wrote:
What boggles my mind is that our only successful to come to through the ranks is John Terry and that was in 1998. You can't tell me that the reason that is the case is because the youth aren't good enough. No that is not the case especially given the way our youth system has grown.

Im not asking us to be Barcelona or Ajax but I least would like to see more success from the youth system.


Will Matic count as home-grown for you? I know it's not the same in the sense you're meaning but I'm curious for the Champions League.
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ukjets21 wrote:
reckless123 wrote:
What boggles my mind is that our only successful to come to through the ranks is John Terry and that was in 1998. You can't tell me that the reason that is the case is because the youth aren't good enough. No that is not the case especially given the way our youth system has grown.

Im not asking us to be Barcelona or Ajax but I least would like to see more success from the youth system.


Will Matic count as home-grown for you? I know it's not the same in the sense you're meaning but I'm curious for the Champions League.


Don't think so, but Cesc does replacing Lamps. Need someone for Cole and Bertrand
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ukjets21 wrote:
reckless123 wrote:
What boggles my mind is that our only successful to come to through the ranks is John Terry and that was in 1998. You can't tell me that the reason that is the case is because the youth aren't good enough. No that is not the case especially given the way our youth system has grown.

Im not asking us to be Barcelona or Ajax but I least would like to see more success from the youth system.


Will Matic count as home-grown for you? I know it's not the same in the sense you're meaning but I'm curious for the Champions League.


Honestly I think he might? Isn't it three years with the club before they turn 21? He was here from summer of 09 until 2011. I can't remember when he left in 2011. He might be a few months shy.
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West Ham want Atsu on loan. I'd let him go on loan, he's been impressive during the WC and with Vitesse from what I've seen.
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West Ham want Atsu on loan. I'd let him go on loan, he's been impressive during the WC and with Vitesse from what I've seen.


Saw someone on Twitter earlier say yeah it'd be great, but then he's being coached by Sam Allardyce for a year...
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reckless123 wrote:
What boggles my mind is that our only successful to come to through the ranks is John Terry and that was in 1998. You can't tell me that the reason that is the case is because the youth aren't good enough. No that is not the case especially given the way our youth system has grown.

Im not asking us to be Barcelona or Ajax but I least would like to see more success from the youth system.


Youth aren't guaranteed to ever develop. And anyway I'd agree with you on a lot of players, like Willian or Matic but Pogba is world class at 21, you don't ever let that slide in the face of "youth movement."
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Mundo Deportivo saying we're bidding for Alex Song.
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teamorange wrote:
reckless123 wrote:
What boggles my mind is that our only successful to come to through the ranks is John Terry and that was in 1998. You can't tell me that the reason that is the case is because the youth aren't good enough. No that is not the case especially given the way our youth system has grown.

Im not asking us to be Barcelona or Ajax but I least would like to see more success from the youth system.


Youth aren't guaranteed to ever develop. And anyway I'd agree with you on a lot of players, like Willian or Matic but Pogba is world class at 21, you don't ever let that slide in the face of "youth movement."


I agree but one player in 16 years? This team hasnt tried or attempted to give youth a chance to develop.

Pogba is a future superstar but im not ready to pay 60m for that. 40m?Hmm, Maybe. Hes not world class yet but is not far away from it in my eyes.
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