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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:58 am    Post subject: Guardian top 100 2014 Reply with quote

http://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2014/dec/21/the-top-100-footballers-2014-interactive

Interesting list, overall pretty good but there are some obvious stuff yah gotta disagree with
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the end, a top 100 list is hard to do. I think their top 20 ish is pretty decent. There are maybe 2-3 players I disagree on, but that is just opinion. However, past 20, it is a toss up and everyone would disagree if a player is 40 or 60.

However there are some ridiculousness in here that cannot even be argued. Someone voting Ceni as a top 40 player in a world.... He does not even belong in this conversation with all respects to his career. Pirlo over Vidal is a joke. I think everything else can somewhat be argued at my first glance
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David De Gea at 55??? Thats a joke. Arguably the best GK in the world right now.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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David De Gea at 55??? Thats a joke. Arguably the best GK in the world right now.


Nah, he's no where close to top GK in the world. Def top 5 but Neuer is head and shoulders above everyone.

dotmotion wrote:
In the end, a top 100 list is hard to do. I think their top 20 ish is pretty decent. There are maybe 2-3 players I disagree on, but that is just opinion. However, past 20, it is a toss up and everyone would disagree if a player is 40 or 60.

However there are some ridiculousness in here that cannot even be argued. Someone voting Ceni as a top 40 player in a world.... He does not even belong in this conversation with all respects to his career. Pirlo over Vidal is a joke. I think everything else can somewhat be argued at my first glance


Yeah, after 20/30 it gets real political but that happens whenever you make something like a top 100 list.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone voted Dempsey as the 32nd best player in the world...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dani Alves... Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Someone voted Dempsey as the 32nd best player in the world...


Where do you see the voting?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teamorange wrote:
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Someone voted Dempsey as the 32nd best player in the world...


Where do you see the voting?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmIFrlqo1UjOdC1fVk9rUnNGd3h6RHEtZUNaSTZraHc&usp=drive_web
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Someone voted Dempsey as the 32nd best player in the world...


I think @usasoccerguy was on of the 78 (if I read it correctly) contributors.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dani Alves only got three votes into the top 100. Thank goodness.

Although, they were at 5, 15, and 30, so I guess some people are still idiots.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That list is like the pro bowl voting, mostly name recognition....
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read some of the descriptions, even the writers aren't convinced.

Iker Casillas


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Two errors in Spain’s infamous 5-1 World Cup defeat to Holland seemed to confirm impressions of Casillas’s decline, which had started to set in when José Mourinho cast him so firmly into the shadows during his time at the Bernabéu. Another error against Slovakia in a Euro 2016 qualifier caused further derision but this has already been one of his most successful years. How many people captain Real Madrid in a Champions League win against their city rivals, securing La Décima in the process? He has not had the easiest ride of late but has been a class act over 16 seasons, making more than 700 appearances


David Luiz

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It’s hard to reconcile the disastrously-positioned defender who struggled in so many matches at the World Cup with the Roy of the Rovers figure who scored that beautiful quarter-final free-kick in the same tournament. Not everyone is a fan but certainly no current Brazilian player bar Neymar is quite as charismatic, and his compatriots somehow seem to like his madness. By spending an initial £40m, rising beyond £50m with add-ons, to bring him from Chelsea in the summer Paris Saint-Germain probably overpaid for him but Laurent Blanc insisted that “he’s a great defender, even if he takes some risks sometimes”.


Just some examples.

I agree top 20-25 is fairly interchangeable.

Also, Neuer is not "head and shoulders above anyone", when you play for easily the most talented side in Germany and your average position during a game is the half way line you can't really compare against somebody who is facing 12+ shots a game, behind a revolving back line.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^To be fair, people only remember his gaffe in the CL Final, but Iker was solid in Copa Del Rey and the rest of the CL last year. And has been pretty good for Madrid this year.

Obviously not what he used to be by any means, but putting him low on the list isn't indefensible
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iker has made a ton of gaffes.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

texans_uk wrote:
Iker has made a ton of gaffes.


I didn't mean to argue otherwise if my post came across that way
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