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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Will Dorne join Aegon or Dany? Especially with Quentyn getting killed by the dragons.

Randyll Tarly was pro Targ like all of the Reach, and his son Dickon married the 8 year old heir to Maidenpool, which is a big harbor, Tarly knows that Aegon is coming?


That's a stretch. Tarly's a big fish but he aint that big Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, with Margaery on the throne I don't think any of the houses from the Reach would support Aegon (or anyone else). I have a hard time seeing where Aegon fits into the story. Who are his allies? The Martells? What exactly does he plan on doing, and why should anyone believe he is who he says he is?
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Yeah, with Margaery on the throne I don't think any of the houses from the Reach would support Aegon (or anyone else). I have a hard time seeing where Aegon fits into the story. Who are his allies? The Martells? What exactly does he plan on doing, and why should anyone believe he is who he says he is?


I think they'll just know he's a true Targaryen just by the way he acts and holds himself. He's been groomed for the throne since he was borne. Dorne will definitely declare for him, not only because he's Elia's son.

It'll be interesting to see who they get to play him, if the show goes that far.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the success, I would be surprised if they didn't get that far with the show.

I think Dorne sides with Aegon, because they'll believe his real, especially if Doran dies.

Anyone else read the Theon Chapter George has on his webside from WoW, and read summaries some of the Chapters George has read to all the different cons.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

samgurl775 wrote:
Yeah, with Margaery on the throne I don't think any of the houses from the Reach would support Aegon (or anyone else). I have a hard time seeing where Aegon fits into the story. Who are his allies? The Martells? What exactly does he plan on doing, and why should anyone believe he is who he says he is?


Well here's a thought for ya sam. The Tyrells fought for the Mad King during Robert's Rebellion. And if something happened to Tommen (which I would hate) there'd be nothing stopping the Tyrells from supporting Aegon. They've definitely soured on the Lannisters at this point
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samgurl775 wrote:
Yeah, with Margaery on the throne I don't think any of the houses from the Reach would support Aegon (or anyone else). I have a hard time seeing where Aegon fits into the story. Who are his allies? The Martells? What exactly does he plan on doing, and why should anyone believe he is who he says he is?
Well here's a thought for ya sam. The Tyrells fought for the Mad King during Robert's Rebellion. And if something happened to Tommen (which I would hate) there'd be nothing stopping the Tyrells from supporting Aegon. They've definitely soured on the Lannisters at this point
Yeah, I'm going to be mildly devestated if something happens to Tommen and/or Myrcella. I just don't get how Aegon is going to convince anyone he's really Rhaegar's son. The thing that bothered me so much about Aegon's reveal is that what's stopping anyone from saying they were the long lost son of such and such a lord? If I were a lord in present day Westeros and heard of Aegon, I'd just be like kid, I don't know who you think you are, but you're not fooling anyone.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roughly 550 pages done with the first book.

Person I like more having read the book from season 1: Jon

Person I hate more having read the book from season 1: Catelyn Stark and not even close.

If I took Cat book 1, and Cat season 2 HBO, I'd be hard-pressed to name a character I hate more. Sure, Joffrey is a POS, but that's in his nature. Cat is just... I can't really describe how I feel about her on here Laughing
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I don't really understand all the Catelyn hate Laughing Sure, she's mean to everyone's favorite bastard, but how would you feel if your spouse came home with someone else's child?
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samgurl775 wrote:
NYGiantsman10 wrote:
samgurl775 wrote:
Yeah, with Margaery on the throne I don't think any of the houses from the Reach would support Aegon (or anyone else). I have a hard time seeing where Aegon fits into the story. Who are his allies? The Martells? What exactly does he plan on doing, and why should anyone believe he is who he says he is?
Well here's a thought for ya sam. The Tyrells fought for the Mad King during Robert's Rebellion. And if something happened to Tommen (which I would hate) there'd be nothing stopping the Tyrells from supporting Aegon. They've definitely soured on the Lannisters at this point
Yeah, I'm going to be mildly devestated if something happens to Tommen and/or Myrcella. I just don't get how Aegon is going to convince anyone he's really Rhaegar's son. The thing that bothered me so much about Aegon's reveal is that what's stopping anyone from saying they were the long lost son of such and such a lord? If I were a lord in present day Westeros and heard of Aegon, I'd just be like kid, I don't know who you think you are, but you're not fooling anyone.


Silver hair and purple eyes seem like a distinct trait though.
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I don't really understand all the Catelyn hate Laughing Sure, she's mean to everyone's favorite bastard, but how would you feel if your spouse came home with someone else's child?


Not just that. It's because of her that everything has escalated so quickly. Dunno. Maybe my hating of her in season 2 carried over.

Also: hate Sansa a lot as well Laughing
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Also: heard Thoros of Myr will be in season 3 on HBO.

When I read about him and his firesword, the winning the kings melee... Look forward to seeing him in action.

Another note: thinking back on season 2, Renly's death is probably the weakest possible method of getting rid of a character. Sad, really.

Overall, GRRM has created an amazing story, with no one safe... But the actual writing is kind of weak. That's not to say it takes away from the story, but something I've noticed while reading.
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Silver hair and purple eyes seem like a distinct trait though.


This and people believe what they want to, and Rheagar was a beloved person. Someone will declare for Aegon, Dorne maybe even the Reach.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also: heard Thoros of Myr will be in season 3 on HBO.

When I read about him and his firesword, the winning the kings melee... Look forward to seeing him in action.

Another note: thinking back on season 2, Renly's death is probably the weakest possible method of getting rid of a character. Sad, really.

Overall, GRRM has created an amazing story, with no one safe... But the actual writing is kind of weak. That's not to say it takes away from the story, but something I've noticed while reading.


I actually enjoyed it.

Renly, the beloved younger brother of the dead King - surrounded by loved ones. Marches at a leisurely pace while enjoying tournaments and feasts. The threat of war and the burden of command clearly the least items of his mind.

Enter the Red Priestess. Invoking mysticism and magic, bypasses all of the adorning followers. There is no long conquest or build up to death. It is the antithesis of his march for the crown. It was quick.

I found it very amusing that all the armies amassed. All of the plans and preparations. The marches. The time consumed. All of it - ends in a matter of seconds. And not with the bang of fanfare which Renly's war campaign had been, but with a whisper of a shadow striking at the very heart of it all.
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samgurl775 wrote:
I don't really understand all the Catelyn hate Laughing Sure, she's mean to everyone's favorite bastard, but how would you feel if your spouse came home with someone else's child?


She do some dumb things, and is awful to a favorite character, but overall I like her chapters, because they're the ones we get to see/hear about Robb.
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RuskieTitan wrote:
Overall, GRRM has created an amazing story, with no one safe... But the actual writing is kind of weak. That's not to say it takes away from the story, but something I've noticed while reading.
By writing do you mean how certain things have unfolded (like Renly's death)? Because I can agree with that, but for as much as the story dropped off in FFC and DwD, GRRM's writing ability made it much more bearable. And I'll wait until you're further along before going all pro-Sansa on you Wink

And about Aegon...I just don't see it. I feel like it would be easy for anyone to claim they were someone else. And I don't think the Tyrell's would just support him even if something were to happen to Tommen. Power can corrupt anyone, and since the Tyrell's are pretty much the most powerful family, I have a hard time imagining them just giving it up to support Aegon.
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