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Looks like mostly commits and a few guys we were hoping for.
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Don't expect the 2012 recruiting class to be anything special. It's going to be mostly 3 star guys. Doesn't mean they won't be good players, but there won't be a whole lot of flash.
The 2013 class should be a nice one, though.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| c0insnap wrote: | Don't expect the 2012 recruiting class to be anything special. It's going to be mostly 3 star guys. Doesn't mean they won't be good players, but there won't be a whole lot of flash.
The 2013 class should be a nice one, though. |
Mike Thomas might be a "3 star guy" but he plays better than that. Remember Malcolm Jenkins, James Laurinaitis, and John Hankins are all "3 star guys" as well.
Also we still have a good chances at Washington and Stanford. Washington alone makes this class pretty damn good. Don't forget we also got Ball and Dunn.
I think this class is going to be one of those underrated blue collar classes that might not have a lot of star power but they get the job done. How many of our "5 star guys" have flamed out and never saw the field because of the "3 star guys" can just ball.
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| Raves wrote: | | c0insnap wrote: | Don't expect the 2012 recruiting class to be anything special. It's going to be mostly 3 star guys. Doesn't mean they won't be good players, but there won't be a whole lot of flash.
The 2013 class should be a nice one, though. |
Mike Thomas might be a "3 star guy" but he plays better than that. Remember Malcolm Jenkins, James Laurinaitis, and John Hankins are all "3 star guys" as well.
Also we still have a good chances at Washington and Stanford. Washington alone makes this class pretty damn good. Don't forget we also got Ball and Dunn.
I think this class is going to be one of those underrated blue collar classes that might not have a lot of star power but they get the job done. How many of our "5 star guys" have flamed out and never saw the field because of the "3 star guys" can just ball. |
I'm not disagreeing with you, but people will be disappointed nonetheless. Most national recruiting services will probably have us in the high 20's if we're lucky.
And you have to admit, it's exciting when we pull 4-5 star kids out of Florida, Georgia and Texas.
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| c0insnap wrote: |
I'm not disagreeing with you, but people will be disappointed nonetheless. Most national recruiting services will probably have us in the high 20's if we're lucky.
And you have to admit, it's exciting when we pull 4-5 star kids out of Florida, Georgia and Texas. |
And how many of these 4-5 star kids from those states pan out? It seems we've done some great things with a ton of 3 star guys more so than the 5 star guys. I know they get all the hype and should live up to it, but as long as they produce on the field, i don't care if they are walk-ons or gods gift to football, just let me see them earn their star ratings lol
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| c0insnap wrote: | Don't expect the 2012 recruiting class to be anything special. It's going to be mostly 3 star guys. Doesn't mean they won't be good players, but there won't be a whole lot of flash.
The 2013 class should be a nice one, though. |
I just want some of the front 7 guys and o-line help. We are taking in kids with good physical measurements and developing them.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| c0insnap wrote: | | Raves wrote: | | c0insnap wrote: | Don't expect the 2012 recruiting class to be anything special. It's going to be mostly 3 star guys. Doesn't mean they won't be good players, but there won't be a whole lot of flash.
The 2013 class should be a nice one, though. |
Mike Thomas might be a "3 star guy" but he plays better than that. Remember Malcolm Jenkins, James Laurinaitis, and John Hankins are all "3 star guys" as well.
Also we still have a good chances at Washington and Stanford. Washington alone makes this class pretty damn good. Don't forget we also got Ball and Dunn.
I think this class is going to be one of those underrated blue collar classes that might not have a lot of star power but they get the job done. How many of our "5 star guys" have flamed out and never saw the field because of the "3 star guys" can just ball. |
I'm not disagreeing with you, but people will be disappointed nonetheless. Most national recruiting services will probably have us in the high 20's if we're lucky.
And you have to admit, it's exciting when we pull 4-5 star kids out of Florida, Georgia and Texas. |
Sure it's exciting, but I've also been happy about getting some of the 3* guys. I was stoked to get Hankins for example after seeing his videos, same with some of the other 3* guys because you can just tell how much they are football players and those guys are often times better than the physical specimens. I mean wasn't Bell a 5* recruit and the #1 OLB coming out and dude got kept on the bench by nobodies.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| Raves wrote: | | c0insnap wrote: | | Raves wrote: | | c0insnap wrote: | Don't expect the 2012 recruiting class to be anything special. It's going to be mostly 3 star guys. Doesn't mean they won't be good players, but there won't be a whole lot of flash.
The 2013 class should be a nice one, though. |
Mike Thomas might be a "3 star guy" but he plays better than that. Remember Malcolm Jenkins, James Laurinaitis, and John Hankins are all "3 star guys" as well.
Also we still have a good chances at Washington and Stanford. Washington alone makes this class pretty damn good. Don't forget we also got Ball and Dunn.
I think this class is going to be one of those underrated blue collar classes that might not have a lot of star power but they get the job done. How many of our "5 star guys" have flamed out and never saw the field because of the "3 star guys" can just ball. |
I'm not disagreeing with you, but people will be disappointed nonetheless. Most national recruiting services will probably have us in the high 20's if we're lucky.
And you have to admit, it's exciting when we pull 4-5 star kids out of Florida, Georgia and Texas. |
Sure it's exciting, but I've also been happy about getting some of the 3* guys. I was stoked to get Hankins for example after seeing his videos, same with some of the other 3* guys because you can just tell how much they are football players and those guys are often times better than the physical specimens. I mean wasn't Bell a 5* recruit and the #1 OLB coming out and dude got kept on the bench by nobodies. |
Bell was on the bench because of depth and because he couldn't stop smoking weed. Look, I know exactly what you're saying... you don't have to convince me of our recruiting success.
But let's not act like all fringe 5 star guys are busts. From this recruiting class alone, Shazier, Miller, Grant, and Bennett were legit 4-5 star kids.
How about Michael Brewster, Mike Adams, Terrelle Pryor, Devier Posey, Andrew Sweat, Cameron Heyward, Brian Rolle and Jordan Hall just to name a few. All very, very highly recruited players with offers from everywhere. Sure, a lot of so called can't miss prospects do indeed miss, but it's usually not due to a lack of talent. A lot of those kids are immature, end up transferring, get into trouble, etc, etc.
When 3 star players do those things it goes unnoticed because at the end of the day, it was just a 3 star player to begin with.
At the end of the day, I'd take Dorial-Green Beckham, Mario Edwards and Eddie Goldman over ANYBODY we currently have committed. You'd be a fool to say otherwise.
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Sorry but I'm pretty happy with Dunn, but of course that can be debated whether or not he's still really committed as he wants to know the extent of the penalties still. We also still have the likely addition of Washington and Stanford, Washington especially has some great film.
Though I'm a little surprised that I don't remember us ever actually going after Dorial-Green Beckham to begin with.
Oh and one more of those 3* throw ins we had that are performing really well keeping those 4* and 5* guys on the bench, Bradley Roby. Easily our best DB this year.
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| Raves wrote: | Sorry but I'm pretty happy with Dunn, but of course that can be debated whether or not he's still really committed as he wants to know the extent of the penalties still. We also still have the likely addition of Washington and Stanford, Washington especially has some great film.
Though I'm a little surprised that I don't remember us ever actually going after Dorial-Green Beckham to begin with.
Oh and one more of those 3* throw ins we had that are performing really well keeping those 4* and 5* guys on the bench, Bradley Roby. Easily our best DB this year. |
For what it's worth, I LOVED Bradley Roby. I wish I could find some of the things I said about him when he committed to us. His film was awesome and he had some impressive offers as well. The fact that we went out to Georgia to get a cornerback speaks volumes of how talented he is.
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Devin Smith is gonna be a stud.
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| candyman93 wrote: | | Devin Smith is gonna be a stud. |
Marky likes this.
Does anyone else think that Roby, Smith, and Shazier have looked like the best freshmen or RS freshmen? Obviously Braxton probably has had the biggest impact, but I think Roby, Smith and Shazier have played better.
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| Marky wrote: | | candyman93 wrote: | | Devin Smith is gonna be a stud. |
Marky likes this.
Does anyone else think that Roby, Smith, and Shazier have looked like the best freshmen or RS freshmen? Obviously Braxton probably has had the biggest impact, but I think Roby, Smith and Shazier have played better. |
Like... the best freshman on Ohio State? Yeah, I guess so. Playing QB is easily the hardest position out of the 4 though, so it's hard to really compare. This whole recruiting class has played pretty well so far (the ones who have played).
The 2012 class is not going to be highly ranked, but I don't think it'll mean much in the long run. I've come to realize it's usually best not to second guess Ohio State and the 3-star guys they give scholarships to; a lot of them end up being great players. These are the guys you want on this football team right now. They love OSU, so much in fact that they're not waiting on any possible NCAA sanctions to come out, they just want to be Buckeyes. And with the 2010 class looking decent/solid and the 2011 class looking pretty good, I'm not that concerned with the lack of big names in the 2012 class. Hopefully 2013 is a better year though. If any coaching changes are made (and we all know it's likely) who knows what could happen. |
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| Brandon26841 wrote: | | Marky wrote: | | candyman93 wrote: | | Devin Smith is gonna be a stud. |
Marky likes this.
Does anyone else think that Roby, Smith, and Shazier have looked like the best freshmen or RS freshmen? Obviously Braxton probably has had the biggest impact, but I think Roby, Smith and Shazier have played better. |
Like... the best freshman on Ohio State? Yeah, I guess so. Playing QB is easily the hardest position out of the 4 though, so it's hard to really compare. This whole recruiting class has played pretty well so far (the ones who have played).
The 2012 class is not going to be highly ranked, but I don't think it'll mean much in the long run. I've come to realize it's usually best not to second guess Ohio State and the 3-star guys they give scholarships to; a lot of them end up being great players. These are the guys you want on this football team right now. They love OSU, so much in fact that they're not waiting on any possible NCAA sanctions to come out, they just want to be Buckeyes. And with the 2010 class looking decent/solid and the 2011 class looking pretty good, I'm not that concerned with the lack of big names in the 2012 class. Hopefully 2013 is a better year though. If any coaching changes are made (and we all know it's likely) who knows what could happen. |
yes, from OSU. I know it is, but so is being the #1 CB and the #1 WR.
I really this class will be good. A lot of in state guys are really impressive and could turn into really good players.
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Indiana is arguably the worst Division 1 team in America behind Minnesota. Their only win is over a Division 2 school and they lost to D2 North Texas.
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