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 Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 2:36 pm Post subject: Everything Dwight Howard Thread: Post Rumors/FA Talk Here |
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We had one of these last year, so it only makes sense to have one catch all thread. Keep all D12 FA, trade, and rumor tak here.
When Dwight Howard makes a decision which team he's going to sign with, feel free to start a new thread.
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| Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Dwigt is an attention whore that wants only money. No way he leaves the Lakers.
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But I thought the Lakers won the deal last year...if I remember the last 50 pages of the those threads. 
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I had a crazy thought this morning, must have been a dream or something. 
Anyone think the Wizards could do a sign and trade for Dwight Howard to team up with John Wall and Bradley Beal?
It's no secret that Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard didnt get along very well.
I'm not sure what kind of package it would take but the Wizards certainly could send Emeka Okafor (coming off one of his best seasons in his career), Trevor Ariza (SF on the 09 Lakers Championship team) and their 1st round pick for Dwight Howard.
I'm sure people would shoot this down but I think it'd be good for both teams. It would get Dwight away from Kobe, which seems to be what Kobe wants. The Lakers would get two front court starters to go with Pau Gasol up front and a lottery pick to develop for their future when Kobe retires and then the Lakers could also sign Chris Paul to play with Kobe in the back court.
The Lakers starting line up would be:
Pg: Paul
SG: Bryant
SF: Ariza/World Peace
PF: Gasol
C: Okafor
The Wizards starting line up would be:
Pg: Wall
SG: Beal
SF: Webster
PF: Nene
C: Howard
Anyways what do you think? Blast away!
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CWood21
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| Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| turtle28 wrote: | | Anyways what do you think? Blast away! |
Lakers would demand Bradley Beal IMO. Not to mention, it's nearly impossible to deal picks that year and combine them in a S&T. What happens if that S&T doesn't go through? The Wizards are stuck with the Lakers' preference.
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| Its A Sabotage wrote: | | But I thought the Lakers won the deal last year...if I remember the last 50 pages of the those threads. |
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| Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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join cp3 in atl!
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turtle28
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| CWood21 wrote: | | turtle28 wrote: | | Anyways what do you think? Blast away! |
Lakers would demand Bradley Beal IMO. Not to mention, it's nearly impossible to deal picks that year and combine them in a S&T. What happens if that S&T doesn't go through? The Wizards are stuck with the Lakers' preference. |
well what if it was Dwight walks and the Lakers get nothing or getting this package?
The Lakers wouldn't get Beal but they could draft Shabazz Muhammed, Victor Oladipo, Michael Carter Williams or Tim Hardaway, Jr with the Wizards Lottery pick.
I guess your point being its hard to trade draft picks, so trade Beal. Well, maybe... Eventhough as a Wizards fan, I'd hate to see Beal go, but to get Dwight Howard with John Wall- that would be worth it! IMO
Then in the draft, the Wizards could take Shabazz Muhammed, Victor Oladipo, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope or Tim Hardaway, Jr to replace Beal.
So the Wizards starting line up would be:
PG: Wall
SG: Muhammed, Oladipo, Caldwell-Pope or Hardaway
SF: Webster
PF: Nene
C: Howard
Still looks like a team that could challenge for home court in the Eastern Conference if Nene stays healthy.
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If I'm Darryl Morey I am throwing the royal carpet out at Dwight to sign with him. I expect him to do the exact same thing. When he tried to go after Bosh he sent several fans in vans to go to Bosh's area and try and recruit him.
If he wants to win I think he should consider the Rockets. Youngest team in the NBA and we now have playoff experience. Plus he can develop his game more with the coaching of McHale, one of the best big men in the game.
If she wants the money he will resign with the Lakers. Simple as that.
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DWIGHT SHOULD COME PLAY PICK AND ROLL WITH KYRIE
DEN WE SIGN LEBRON THE YEAR AFTER
O MUH GAWD DYNASTY
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| turtle28 wrote: | | well what if it was Dwight walks and the Lakers get nothing or getting this package? |
The problem is the Lakers are in salary cap hell, and quite frankly a team with Nash/Kobe/Gasol as it's main points are pretty old, and probably not dependable to stay healthy for the entire year. If Dwight Howard walks, it's time to strip things down and rebuild. The package itself isn't overly too bad, but I think the Lakers would want to strip down a bad contract or two along with Dwight if at all possible. Sure, Ariza/Okafor could help fill the hole at SF and C respectively (assuming they amnesty MWP), but you're delaying the inevitable of a full rebuild.
And that's before ignoring the unlikeliness that Dwight Howard would find Washington appealing. Remember, it's Dwight Howard's decision and he holds all the cards right now.
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Lakers dont have a big $$$ advantage over the rockets, the only advantage the Lakers have is offering an extra year, dont forget California has a 12% tax rate on the top earners which would cut his per years salary by a lot and something like 14 million over the course of the max deal LA can give him
Houston is a huge market, and has a massive worldly following thanks to Ming and Lin. Everything Howard wants and needs can be found in Houston. He has the chance to play with another Superstar who isnt a prick, ball hog or high maintenance kinda guy.
I'm sure he watched the last few games against the thunder where Omer Asik was getting wide open looks at the rim while averaging an impressive 17/13/2 over the last 3 games of the series, and those are down numbers even for Howard, so imagine what Howard would be able to do with all those lay ups that Asik misses. Our system is made for a Big man who anchors the D, rebounds and throws down dunks. Howard would be a 20/15/2 guy every night for the Rockets.
Rockets would instantly become top 2 in the West. The real question that would be asked is this: Where does Asik go to next? No way we keep both of them on the roster, and if Howard is set on going to Houston LA might be willing to sign and trade him although im not sure the new rules when dealing with it.
Bottom line the rockets are the best fit for a guy like Howard, the only issue will be that 5th year the lakers can offer him
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| CWood21 wrote: | | turtle28 wrote: | | well what if it was Dwight walks and the Lakers get nothing or getting this package? |
The problem is the Lakers are in salary cap hell, and quite frankly a team with Nash/Kobe/Gasol as it's main points are pretty old, and probably not dependable to stay healthy for the entire year. If Dwight Howard walks, it's time to strip things down and rebuild. The package itself isn't overly too bad, but I think the Lakers would want to strip down a bad contract or two along with Dwight if at all possible. Sure, Ariza/Okafor could help fill the hole at SF and C respectively (assuming they amnesty MWP), but you're delaying the inevitable of a full rebuild.
And that's before ignoring the unlikeliness that Dwight Howard would find Washington appealing. Remember, it's Dwight Howard's decision and he holds all the cards right now. |
true, true. I was thinking of the salary cap hell the Lakers are in with their old team. You are right, they need to be rebuild but if the Wizards gave them Beal or their top 10 pick it would accelerate the rebuilding process for the Lakers. It would also give Kobe one more shot to win a Championship before he retires. they could always move Kobe to the SF position to get their best 5 players on the court. Could you imagine this line up for the Lakers:
PG: Paul
SG: Beal
SF: Bryant
PF: Gasol
C: Okafor
I could see Nash retiring. If he didn't they could always amnesty him so they could make a run at Chris Paul.
The Lakers could send Meta World Peace back to DC in return or maybe just leave the small forwards out of the deal, especially if Beal is involved. So the Lakers would keep World Peace with Clark playing alot of minutes there also and The wizards would just keep Ariza to back up at SG and SF.
I also understand its Dwight's decision. The thing is, if I were Dwight, I'd want to be teamed up with one of the best young PGs in the NBA- possibly the best if the youngest group- and he'd get to play in the Nation's Capitol with other stars like Rg3 and Bryce Harper.
I think DC as a destination point and seeing that if he came here the Wizards would have a bright future with him Wall, Beal or a top 10 SG, Webster and Nene would be enticing, but maybe not. I can't speak for Dwight
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| Pastor Dillon wrote: | | Houston is a huge market, and has a massive worldly following thanks to Ming and Lin. Everything Howard wants and needs can be found in Houston. He has the chance to play with another Superstar who isnt a prick, ball hog or high maintenance kinda guy. |
And Los Angeles isn't? If anything, the Lakers are in a top 2 market (alongside NYC) where as Houston is in the top 10. May not be a massive difference, but there will be more than ample advertisement possibilities for a guy like Dwight Howard. And we all know his personality is going to attract a LOT of attention (in a good way of course). What money he loses through taxes is made up through endorsement deals. This part can not be understated.
| Pastor Dillon wrote: | | I'm sure he watched the last few games against the thunder where Omer Asik was getting wide open looks at the rim while averaging an impressive 17/13/2 over the last 3 games of the series, and those are down numbers even for Howard, so imagine what Howard would be able to do with all those lay ups that Asik misses. Our system is made for a Big man who anchors the D, rebounds and throws down dunks. Howard would be a 20/15/2 guy every night for the Rockets. |
Or he could have looked at the first three games and noticed that the Rockets were on the brink of getting swept had it not been for the untimely Russell Westbrook injury. It's all a matter of perspective. And while the season didn't go the Lakers way this year, it's all about long term perspective. Pau Gasol will certainly not be a Laker past next year, maybe not even next season. Kobe Bryant probably has one more year as a Lakers, and I anticipate a TON of turnover after next year.
| Pastor Dillon wrote: | | Bottom line the rockets are the best fit for a guy like Howard, the only issue will be that 5th year the lakers can offer him |
In your opinion. The Lakers are the best suited to getting that second and third star to pair with Dwight Howard. What do the Rockets offer? James Harden and a few glorified role players. Let's not act like he's joining up with LeBron and Chris Paul. Most Rockets fans are ready to run Jeremy Lin out of town, and Omer Asik would be replaced by Dwight. Those were the two big ticket expenses last offseason.
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| turtle28 wrote: | true, true. I was thinking of the salary cap hell the Lakers are in with their old team. You are right, they need to be rebuild but if the Wizards gave them Beal or their top 10 pick it would accelerate the rebuilding process for the Lakers. It would also give Kobe one more shot to win a Championship before he retires. they could always move Kobe to the SF position to get their best 5 players on the court. Could you imagine this line up for the Lakers:
PG: Paul
SG: Beal
SF: Bryant
PF: Gasol
C: Okafor
I could see Nash retiring. If he didn't they could always amnesty him so they could make a run at Chris Paul.
The Lakers could send Meta World Peace back to DC in return or maybe just leave the small forwards out of the deal, especially if Beal is involved. So the Lakers would keep World Peace with Clark playing alot of minutes there also and The wizards would just keep Ariza to back up at SG and SF. |
Don't think that the Wizards would be willing to take back MWP and give up Beal in a package for Dwight. I'd believe it would be Steve Blake going back to Washington. Something like Ariza/Okafor for Dwight and Beal for Blake as a seperate, but simultaneous deal. This would give the Lakers one last run for Kobe Bryant (assuming he could return relatively healthy), but then have MASSIVE cap space next offseason and could lure some star to play alongside Bradley Beal.
And FWIW, they can't amnesty Steve Nash. The only Lakers eligible to be amnestied are: Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Metta World Pace, and Steve Blake. Odds are high that if they amnesty someone, it'll likely either be MWP or Blake.
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