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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:11 pm    Post subject: Official Pistons Thread: DJ Augustin/Caron Butler Reply with quote

Detroit Pistons:

Coaching Staff:

HC| Stan Van Gundy
AC| Bob Beyer
AC| Brendan Malone
AC| Charles Klask
AC| John Loyer

Roster:

PG | Brandon Jennings
PG | D.J. Augustin
PG | Will Bynum

G | Spencer Dinwiddie

SG | Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
SG | Jodie Meeks

GF | Cartier Martin

SF | Caron Butler
SF | Kyle Singler
SF | Luigi "Gigi" Datome

PF | Josh Smith
PF | Jonas Jerebko
PF | Tony Mitchell

FC | Greg Monroe

C | Andre Drummond
C | Aaron Gray

Current Projected Depth Chart:

PG| Brandon Jennings | D.J. Augustin | Will Bynum | Spencer Dinwiddie
SG| Jodie Meeks | Kentavious Caldwell-Pope | Cartier Martin | Spencer Dinwiddie
SF| Caron Butler | Kyle Singler | Luigi Datome
PF| Josh Smith | Jonas Jerebko | Tony Mitchell
C| Andre Drummond | Aaron Gray

(Greg Monroe)

Draft Picks:

#38 - Spencer Dinwiddie

Pending FA:

CG| Rodney Stuckey | $8.5M~ | Unrestricted FA - RENOUNCED - PACERS
CF| Charlie Villanueva | $8.5M~ | Unrestricted FA - RENOUNCED

CF| Jonas Jerebko | $4.5M~ | Player Option - PICKED UP

PG| Chauncey Billups | $2.5M~ | Team Option - DECLINED

PF| Greg Monroe | $4.1M~ | Restricted FA - QUALIFYING OFFER

2014 Potential Pistons NBA Draft Prospects:

PG:

01| NA | INTERNATIONAL | 6'6 196 | Dante Exum | PROJECTED: Top 5
02| FR | Syracuse | 6'2 182 | Tyler Ennis | PROJECTED: Late Lottery/1st Round
03| SO | OKST | 6'3 227 | Marcus Smart (CG?) | PROJECTED: Top 10
04| SR | UCONN | 6'1 185 | Shabazz Napier | PROJECTED: Late 1st/Early 2nd
05| JR | ULL | 6'4 185 | Elfrid Payton | PROJECTED: 1st Round
06| SR | Nevada | 6'1 193 | Deonte Burton | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
07| SO | Xavier | 6'3 186 | Semaj Christon | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
08| SO | Arizona State | 5'11 180 | Jahii Carson | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
09| NA | INTERNATIONAL | 6'4 188 | Vasilije Micic | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
10| SR | FLA | 6'3 168 | Scottie Wilbekin | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
11| SR | UNM | 6'4 180 | Kendall Williams | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA

SR| MEM | 6'1 171 | Joe Jackson | PROJECTED: UDFA
SR| UMASS | 5'9 175 | Chaz Williams | PROJECTED: UDFA
SR| MSU | 6'2 170 | Keith Appling | PROJECTED: UDFA
SR| OSU | 6'2 195 | Aaron Craft | PROJECTED: UDFA

Combo Guard

01| JR | MIZZ | 6'5 186 | Jordan Clarkson | PROJECTED: Early 2nd Round
02| SR | LOU | 6'0 165 | Russ Smith | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
03| SR | SDST | 6'3 195 | Xavier Thames | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
04| SR | PROV | 6'1 165 | Bryce Cotton | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
05| SR | FSU | 6'3 198 | Ian Miller | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA

SR| Mercer | 6'4 180 | Langston Hall | PROJECTED: UDFA

SG:

01| FR | Kansas | 6'8 197 | Andrew Wiggins | PROJECTED: Top 3
02| SO | Michigan | 6'6 207 | Nik Stauskas | PROJECTED: Lottery
03| SO | MSU | 6'4 205 | Gary Harris | PROJECTED: Late Lottery/1st Round
04| FR | UCLA | 6'6 181 | Zach LaVine | PROJECTED: Late Lottery/1st Round
05| SO | UCLA | 6'5 209 | Jordan Adams | PROJECTED: 1st Round
06| SR | WSH | 6'5 193 | CJ Wilcox | PROJECTED: Late 1st Round/2nd Round
07| JR | COL | 6'6 205 | Spencer Dinwiddie | PROJECTED: Late 1st Round/Early 2nd Round
08| NA | INTERNATIONAL | 6'6 200 | Bogdan Bogdanovic | PROJECTED: Late 1st Round/Early 2nd Round
09| NA | NBDL | 6'5 229 | P.J. Hairston | PROJECTED: Late 1st Round/Early 2nd Round
10| JR | AZ | 6'3 198 | Nick Johnson | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
11| SR | IA | 6'6 192 | Roy Devyn Marble | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
12| JR | MIZZ | 6'4 202 | Jabari Brown | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
13| SR | PITT | 6'5 226 | Lamar Patterson | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
14| SR | Duke | 6'5 206 | Andre Dawkins | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
15| SR | TENN | 6'6 185 | Jordan McRae | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
16| SR | CIN | 6'4 219 | Sean Kilpatrick | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA

SR| OK ST | 6'3 185 | Markel Brown | PROJECTED: UDFA
SR| FLA | 6'6 212 | Casey Prather | PROJECTED: UDFA
SR| OAK | 6'5 184 | Travis Bader | PROJECTED: UDFA
SR| ASU | 6'4 215 | Jermaine Marshall | PROJECTED: UDFA

SF:

01| FR | Duke | 6'8 241 | Jabari Parker | PROJECTED: Top 3
02| FR | Kentucky | 6'7 213 | James Young | PROJECTED: Late Lottery/1st Round
03| SR | WICH ST | 6'7 207 | Cleanthony Early | PROJECTED: 1st Round
04| SO | Michigan | 6'7 211 | Glenn Robinson III | PROJECTED: 1st Round
05| JR | Duke | 6'8 208 | Rodney Hood | PROJECTED: 1st Round
06| JR | UCONN | 6'8 196 | DeAndre Daniels | PROJECTED: 1st Round
07| SO | NCST | 6'8 220 | TJ Warren | PROJECTED: 1st Round
08| JR | CLEM | 6'6 196 | KJ McDaniels | PROJECTED: Late 1st Round
09| SR | CREIGH | 6'8 225 | Doug McDermott (CF?) | PROJECTED: Late 1st Round
10| SO | UCLA | 6'8 230 | Kyle Anderson | PROJECTED: Late 1st Round
11| NA | INTERNATIONAL | 6'8 240 | Damien Inglis (CF?) | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
12| NA | NBDL | 6'6 205 | Thanasis Antetokounmpo | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
13| SO | CUSE | 6'8 214 | Jerami Grant (CF?) | PROJECTED: Late 1st Round/Early 2nd
14| SR | UVA | 6'6 215 | Joe Harris | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
15| SR | UCONN | 6'7 200 | Niels Giffey | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
16| SR | STAN | 6'7 213 | Josh Huestis | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
17| SR | Seton Hall | 6'6 205 | Fuquan Edwin | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
18| JR | OSU | 6'7 239 | LaQuinton Ross (CF?) | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
19| SR | ISU | 6'6 220 | Melvin Ejim (CF?) | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
20| SR | CUSE | 6'7 225 | CJ Fair (CF?) | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
21| SR | ORE | 6'8 205 | Mike Moser (CF?) | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
22| SR | MARQ| 6'7 217 | Jamil Wilson (CF?) | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
23| SR | FSU | 6'8 180 | Okaro White | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
24| NA | INTERNATIONAL | 6'8 233 | Ioannis Papapetrou (CF?) | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA

PF:

01| FR | Indiana | 6'9 247 | Noah Vonleh | PROJECTED: Top 10
02| FR | Kentucky | 6'9 250 | Julius Randle | PROJECTED: Lottery
03| FR | Arizona | 6'9 220 | Aaron Gordon | PROJECTED: Late Lottery/Mid 1st
04| SR | Michigan State | 6'10 240 | Adreian Payne | PROJECTED: Late Lottery/Late 1st
05| NA | INTERNATIONAL | 6'10 223 | Dario Saric | PROJECTED: 1st Round
06| NA | INTERNATIONAL | 6'11 222 | Clint Capela | PROJECTED: 1st Round/Early 2nd Round
07| JR | TEN | 6'8 263 | Jarnell Stokes | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
08| SR | BAY | 6'9 235 | Cory Jefferson | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
09| SR | FLA | 6'8 250 | Patric Young | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
10| SR | STAN | 6'10 240 | Dwight Powell | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
11| JR | LSU | 6'8 257 | Johnny O'Bryant | PROJECTED: 2nd Round
12| SR | WMU | 6'10 237 | Shayne Whittington | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
13| JR | UNLV | 6'9 209 | Khem Birch | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
14| SR | VCU | 6'9 248 | Juvonte Reddic | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
15| JR | UNC | 6'9 228 | James McAdoo | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
16| SR | UNM | 6'9 250 | Cameron Bairstow | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA

C:

01| FR | Kansas | 7'0 240 | Joel Embiid | PROJECTED: Top 3
02| SO | Michigan | 6'10 263 | Mitch McGary | PROJECTED: Late 1st/Early 2nd
03| NA | INTERNATIONAL | 6'11 280 | Jusuf Nurkic | PROJECTED: 1st Round
04| NA | INTERNATIONAL | 6'11 253 | Nikola Jokic | PROJECTED 2nd Round
05| NA | INTERNATIONAL | 7'1 228 | Artem Klimenko | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
06| SR | ASU | 7'2 250 | Jordan Bachynski | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
07| NA | INTERNATIONAL | 7'3 265 | Walter Tavares | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
08| SR | UWGB | 7'1 231 | Alec Brown | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA
09| JR | UNM | 6'11 252 | Alex Kirk | PROJECTED: 2nd Round/UDFA

Confirmed to Interview and/or workout with Pistons

PG Dante Exum - Interview - Combine
G Marcus Smart - Interview - Combine
G Zach LaVine - Interview - Combine
SG Nik Stauskas - Interview - Combine
SG Gary Harris - Interview - Combine
SF Glenn Robinson III - Interview - Combine
SF Rodney Hood - Interview - Combine
PF Noah Vonleh - Interview - Combine

PG Keith Appling - Workout - TBA
SG Andre Dawkins - Workout - TBA
SG Jordan McRae - Workout - TBA
SG Drew Crawford - Workout - TBA
SG Travis Bader - Workout - June 24
SG|SF Luke Hancock - Workout - TBA
SF DeAndre Daniels - Workout - June 25
SF Niels Giffey - Workout - TBA
SF Josh Huestis - Workout - TBA
SF Okaro White - Workout - TBA
SF CJ Fair - Workout - June 24
F Mike Moser - Workout - June 25
PF Ronald Roberts - Workout - TBA
PF Dwight Powell - Workout - June 16
PF Cory Jefferson - Workout - June 16
PF Johnny O'Bryant - Workout - TBA
PF|C Isaiah Austin - Workout - June 16
C Jordan Bachynski - Workout - June 16

1King's Pistons Big Board (Last Updated: 6/25/14)

01| Jabari Parker - SF|PF - Duke
02| Andrew Wiggins - SG|SF - Kansas
03| Dante Exum - PG|SG - International
04| Nik Stauskus - SG - Michigan
05| Joel Embiid - C - Kansas
06| Noah Vonleh - PF - Indiana
07| James Young - SG|SF - Kentucky
08| Tyler Ennis - PG - Syracuse
09| Marcus Smart - PG|SG - Oklahoma State
10| Julius Randle - PF - Kentucky
11| Aaron Gordon - PF - Arizona
12| Gary Harris - SG - Michigan State
13| Zach LaVine - SG - UCLA
14| Cleanthony Early - SF - Wichita State
15| Adreian Payne - PF - Michigan State
16| Glenn Robinson III - SF - Michigan
17| Rodney Hood - SF - Duke
18| Deandre Daniels - SF - UCONN
19| Jordan Adams - SG - UCLA
20| TJ Warren - SF - North Carolina State
21| KJ McDaniels - SF - Clemson
22| Shabazz Napier - PG - UCONN
23| Elfrid Payton - PG - ULL
24| CJ Wilcox - SG - Washington
25| Mitch McGary - C|PF - Michigan
26| Doug McDermott - SF|PF - Creighton
27| Jusuf Nurkic - C - INTERNATIONAL
28| Dario Saric - PF - INTERNATIONAL
29| Kyle Anderson - SF - UCLA
30| Spencer Dinwiddie - SG - Colorado
31| Bogdan Bogdanovic - SG - INTERNATIONAL
32| Damien Inglis - SF|PF - INTERNATIONAL
33| Thanasis Antetokounmpo - SF - NBDL
34| Jerami Grant - SF|PF - Syracuse
35| Jordan Clarkson - PG|SG - Missouri
36| PJ Hairston - SG - NBDL
37| Clint Capela - PF - INTERNATIONAL
38| Nick Johnson - SG - Arizona
39| Jarnell Stokes - PF - Tennessee
40| Russ Smith - PG|SG - Louisville
41| Roy Devyn Marble - SG - Iowa
42| Deonte Burton - PG - Nevada
43| Semaj Christon - PG - Xavier
44| Cory Jefferson - PF - Baylor
45| Jahii Carson - PG - Arizona State
46| Patric Young - PF|C - Florida
47| Dwight Powell - PF - Stanford
48| Vasilije Micic - PG - INTERNATIONAL
49| Nikola Jokic - C - INTERNATIONAL
50| Jabari Brown - SG - Missouri
51| Joe Harris - SF - Virginia
52| Artem Klimenko - C - INTERNATIONAL
53| Niels Giffey - SF - UCONN
54| Josh Huestis - SF - Stanford
55| Johnny O'Bryant - PF - LSU
56| Lamar Patterson - SG - Pittsburgh
57| Fuquan Edwin - SF - Seton Hall
58| Walter Tavares - C - INTERNATIONAL
59| Jordan Bachynski - C - Arizona State
60| Shayne Whittington - PF - Western Michigan

2014 Summer League

July 5-11, 2014
Orlando Summer League
Orlando, FL

Roster

PG Peyton Siva (2013 Pistons 2nd Round Pick)
PG Markel Starks (2014 UDFA)
G Ian Miller (2014 UDFA)
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (2013 Pistons 1st Round Pick)
SG David Lighty (former Buckeye)
SF DeAndre Liggins (2013-14 NBDL DPOY; played under SVG in ORL)
F Tristan Spurlock (2014 UDFA)
F Damion James (former Longhorn)
F Chris Watford (former Hoosier)
PF Tony Mitchell (2013 Pistons 2nd Round Pick)
PF Jordan Heath (2014 UDFA; stretch 4)
PF Justin Harper (stretch 4: played for SVG in ORL)
FC Brian Cook (stretch 4; played for SVG in ORL)
C Tim Olbrecht

Schedule

Saturday | July 5, 2014 | 3:00 PM EST | vs. Houston Rockets | Win
Sunday | July 6, 2014 | 3:00 PM EST | vs. Memphis Grizzlies | Win
Tuesday | July 8, 2014 | 5:00 PM EST | vs. Miami Heat | Win
Wednesday | July 9, 2014 | 7:00 PM EST | vs. Boston Celtics | Loss
Friday | July 11, 2014 | 8:00 AM | vs. Orlando Magic | Loss

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sax, how did you become a fan of all Boston teams and then the Pistons? Boston sports fans usually seem to be pretty united in rooting for all of their teams.

Pistons are currently 6-8 at home and 7-7 on the road. Think we need more energy in the building at home.
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Give me a few mins and I'll write up why I am a Pistons fan...gotta medicate.


Alright, so I didn't really follow a team growing up until I was about 13/14. Before then I was just a drooler for Jordan. He is still my favorite of all time and I have memorabilia but when he retired (for the last time) I found it necessary to find a team to root for.

The Celtics would have been the obvious choice, but first off I can't stand Tommy Heinsohn their play-by-play guy. He is honestly the biggest homer in the history of sports. I just couldn't root for the Celtics. From pierce and his phony meniscus crap to KGs screaming everything was possible right after the Boston Celtics went all NYY and tanked and swapped and paid for a championship. I hate that big three.

So when I was about 14 (ten years ago) I was playing pick up games every day at the park and after swatting a few kids these guys I knew started calling me Ben Wallace. Unfortunately and embarrassingly enough I didn't watch enough ball to know who I was being called. I went home and watched Ben Wallace YouTube vids foreva. Especially the one by yinka dare. I fell in love with the way Detroit played defense and in 2004 straight EARNED that championship over the much more star studded Lakers. I am a big believer in defense and chemistry over forced studs. The unselfishness of that starting five in 2004 vs LAL was great to see. All the characters and pieces to the puzzle. Being an MJ lover I know physical, intimidating basketball with more chemistry and grit but never a super star (minus Zeke) than most others was deeply rooted in the Pistons so I am 100% a Pistons fan and have been since I was called Ben Wallace on a court in NH 10 years ago. Only team/player I hate more than Boston Celtics is LeBron.
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Nice to see Jennings facilitate like a true PG tonight, got his points but got others involved. Drummond's efficiency is great, still cant believe he fell into our lap
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Pistons only NBA team with a winning road record (7-6) and losing home mark (6-Cool. They're now 6-1 in last 7 roadies.


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Best records vs the East: Miami 14-3, Indiana 14-6, Detroit 12-5... it's the West that gives the #Pistons trouble

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My statement stands- Billups must go. Either completely off the team, or completely to the back of the rotation.

Preferably, he'd join Sheed on the sidelines in jeans and a sports jacket.

I challenge someone to tell me I'm off about his game. I'm very perceptive when it comes to basketall.

His dribbling ability has diminished to next to nothing. His 3 pt shot is unreliable. When he gets the ball, over 90% of the time he'll try and get a step on his defender, and kick it out to the first open shooter he can find beyond the arc- and of course when he's on the court, that guy is mostly Josh Smith.

He's an enabler, and we don't want or need that for Josh and the rest of the team. That's not our game. We're an inside first team, outside last.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stylish313 wrote:
My statement stands- Billups must go. Either completely off the team, or completely to the back of the rotation.

Preferably, he'd join Sheed on the sidelines in jeans and a sports jacket.

I challenge someone to tell me I'm off about his game. I'm very perceptive when it comes to basketall.

His dribbling ability has diminished to next to nothing. His 3 pt shot is unreliable. When he gets the ball, over 90% of the time he'll try and get a step on his defender, and kick it out to the first open shooter he can find beyond the arc- and of course when he's on the court, that guy is mostly Josh Smith.

He's an enabler, and we don't want or need that for Josh and the rest of the team. That's not our game. We're an inside first team, outside last.


I agree with a lot of that except maybe, just maybe, he's still aching a bit from his sore knees.

I DEFINATELY don't see him coming back for another season with us as a player.
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Dwight vs. 'Dre Through 26 Games as NBA Sophs

Mins PPG FG% Rebs FTA FT%.Blks Stls
Howard 35.6 14.2 .489 12.3 6.5 .589 1.5 0.9
Drummond 32.9 13.3 .618 12.6 3.8 .384 1.4 1.7
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I_GET_SAX wrote:
Dwight vs. 'Dre Through 26 Games as NBA Sophs

Mins PPG FG% Rebs FTA FT%.Blks Stls
Howard 35.6 14.2 .489 12.3 6.5 .589 1.5 0.9
Drummond 32.9 13.3 .618 12.6 3.8 .384 1.4 1.7
I made the same point last season with regards to their rookie years.

Drum Drum is on a faster pace to stardom than Dwight was(practically same stats, better supporting cast).
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I_GET_SAX wrote:
Dwight vs. 'Dre Through 26 Games as NBA Sophs

Mins PPG FG% Rebs FTA FT%.Blks Stls
Howard 35.6 14.2 .489 12.3 6.5 .589 1.5 0.9
Drummond 32.9 13.3 .618 12.6 3.8 .384 1.4 1.7


Drummond is much more efficient then Howard was however... I'd like to see his FT% increase (I'd make a comment about where I'd want the % to be... but TBH I don't know that much about basketball)


I'm gonna try and follow the team, so please be patient with me Laughing
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Messing around on NBA Trade Machine:

Philadelphia Gets:

C Omer Asik
F Donatas Motiejunas
F Jonas Jerebko
1st Round Pick via Houston
Future 2nd Round Pick via Detroit

(Trade Machine says -10 wins)

Houston Gets:

PF Thad Young
SG Doron Lamb
Future 2nd Round Pick via Detroit

(Trade Machines says +3 wins)

Orlando Gets:

C Spencer Hawes
F Charlie Villanueva (expiring)
SF Luigi Datome
Future 1st Round Pick via Detroit
Future 2nd Round Pick via Houston

(Trade Machine says -6 wins)

Detroit Gets:

SG Arron Afflalo
PF Glen Davis
SF Ronnie Brewer

(Trade Machine says +7 wins)

Updated Depth Chart

Philly

PG| MCW | Wroten | Brown
SG| Wroten | Anderson | (Richardson)
SF| Turner | Thompson
PF| Jerebko | Motiejunas | (Moultrie)
C| Asik | Allen | (Noel)

Houston

PG| Beverly | Lin | Brooks
SG| Harden | Garcia | Lamb
SF| Parsons | Casspi | Covington
PF| Young | Jones
C| Howard | Smith

Orlando

PG| Nelson | Oladipo | Moore
SG| Oladipo | Harkless | Moore
SF| Harris | Harkless | Datome
PF| Hawes | Nicholson | Maxiell | CV
C| Vucevic | Hawes | O'Quinn

Detroit

PG| Jennings | Bynum | Billups | Siva
SG| Afflalo | Stuckey | KCP
SF| Smith | Singler | Afflalo | Brewer
PF| Monroe | Smith | Davis | Mitchell
C| Drummond | Monroe | Harrellson

Thoughts?
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I like the value you get for Detroit in bringing back Aflallo. Idk what his contract situation is but we seem to be trimming a lot of the fat off our team while also shipping the choice of a draft choice away for a few years. I have always loathed Big Baby but he is someone who gets his fair share of points and rebounds and is high energy. Aflallo brings a shooters threat to spread the floor for him and Jennings while our trio of terror blow it up inside. I don't miss any of the players you have us losing. Would just want the key part of the trade in Aaron to be here for the years that we miss out on draft pick galore. The fact that we get a pure shooter to pair on the perimeter with Jennings and we get much better forward depth with addition by subtraction. Davis is a guy who hustles and can score pretty well for a guy his mold.
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I_GET_SAX wrote:
I like the value you get for Detroit in bringing back Aflallo. Idk what his contract situation is but we seem to be trimming a lot of the fat off our team while also shipping the choice of a draft choice away for a few years. I have always loathed Big Baby but he is someone who gets his fair share of points and rebounds and is high energy. Aflallo brings a shooters threat to spread the floor for him and Jennings while our trio of terror blow it up inside. I don't miss any of the players you have us losing. Would just want the key part of the trade in Aaron to be here for the years that we miss out on draft pick galore.


Pretty sure Afflalo has 3 years left on his deal (this year + 2 more).

Not a ton of draft picks, we could stack them something like:

2014 2nd rounder to Philly or Houston (with this trade there is a low likelihood the guy would contribute anyway). We wouldn't make a pick in this year's draft (we could always buy a 2nd rounder if we wanted)

Give up the other 2nd rounder in 2015, we'd still have our 1st rounder that year.

Give up the first rounder in 2016. We'd still have a 2nd.

And then we would have all of our picks after that, with a still young and talented nucleus.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to mention that I feel you bury Davis, Brewer and Mitchell on the DC. I feel Davis and a Brewer should be the back ups at PF and SF respectively. Brewer brings good defense on the perimeter. Singler has been marginal at best this season. And I may even go Jennings/Bynum/KCP & Afflalo/Stuck/KCP.
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