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Lil Uno 
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Some UDFA I would consider:
QB-John Brantley-Florida: He has potential and ability to get drafted, he just doesn't have any film to look at. 2 Years ago Urban Meyer ran a QB by committee. Then this year he started off hot under Charlie Weis until an injury knocked him out. Worth a look as a camp body at the least
WR-Damarlo Belcher-Indiana: Belcher was kicked off the team but he would have pushed for the 2nd Round. Like Weslye Saunders last year, Belcher is a great talent on a football hiatus. At 6-5 215 he would be an immediate Red Zone threat with the potential to become a number #1 or a high end #2.
WR-Da'Jon McKnight-Minnesota: The hometown kid has been a bright spot for the Gophers this year. At 6-3 215 he has been a playmaker for the Gophers; making tough catches and scoring TDs. The biggest knock on McKnight his is speed. I'm not sure he will be able to create much seperation at the next level. If he were to become a better route runner to help disguise his lack of speed than you could have a player.
DE-Jack Crawford-Penn State: Crawford was once regarded as a 1st Round lock. Not sure what happened but over the last 2 years his production hasn't been the same. At 6-5 260 Crawford has been asked to stand up sometimes but I see his NFL future with his hands in the dirt. Crawford utilizes his speed and athleticism to get a good burst off the line of scrimmage. The burst off the line of scrimmage allows Crawford to generate a lot of pressure on the quarterback Crawford has only been playing organized football for several years and is very raw. He hasn’t racked up major game time and needs to work on refining his technique and get a better feel for the game.
S-Janzen Jackson-McNeese State: Jackson is an elite talent with character concerns. Jackson was a thorpe award candidate at Tennessee before being kicked off the team and transfering. Had has stayed at Tennesee he would be a Top 20 lock this year. He is a playmaker with a nose for the ball. Jackson has a lot of what you’re looking for in a safety prospect. He has good height, sideline to sideline range, he makes a lot of plays on the ball, and he can defend the middle of the field with his ferocious hits. Jackson is just a very nice prospect whose biggest on the field flaw is his form tackling. I'm not sure what his eligibility is at this point but I'm sure he will be available for this years draft. _________________
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calipurple
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think we could look at Barret Ruud from the Titians. He was pretty sought after as a FA last year but after being out for the majority of the season and getting his spot taken by Collin McCarthy he could come a little cheaper this year. _________________
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PrplChilPill
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 7814 Location: SLP, MN
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| calipurple wrote: | | I think we could look at Barret Ruud from the Titians. He was pretty sought after as a FA last year but after being out for the majority of the season and getting his spot taken by Collin McCarthy he could come a little cheaper this year. |
Over rated. Not a fan.
I don't buy the premise of the thread at all, as there are plenty of good teams that have signed FAs...but if you want a list, I'll say anyone under 28 that is better than what the Vikings have should be a target. _________________ Wins are a team stat, not a QB stat |
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rpmwr19 
 Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 16990 Location: Stillwater, MN
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| PrplChilPill wrote: | | calipurple wrote: | | I think we could look at Barret Ruud from the Titians. He was pretty sought after as a FA last year but after being out for the majority of the season and getting his spot taken by Collin McCarthy he could come a little cheaper this year. |
Over rated. Not a fan.
I don't buy the premise of the thread at all, as there are plenty of good teams that have signed FAs...but if you want a list, I'll say anyone under 28 that is better than what the Vikings have should be a target. |
I'm not saying don't sign FA's
I'm saying to go out and spend big on free agency. Winning teams don't do that anymore. _________________
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Eastern Walrus 
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 3042 Location: on safari
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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DeSean Jackson talk already come to a stop? I would like to see him in purple and I think he's young enough to still produce for the Vikings for years to come _________________ 2013 Adopt a Minnesota Viking - Xavier Rhodes - CB - #29
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PrplChilPill
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Eastern Walrus wrote: | | DeSean Jackson talk already come to a stop? I would like to see him in purple and I think he's young enough to still produce for the Vikings for years to come |
It is an interesting name. According to one of the ESPN talking heads, he looked at the tape of the game where he "dogged it" and found zero plays that Jackson actually took off. I think if "properly" compensated, DeSean would be very good again. I'm not sure he's great, but he's very good. I'd certainly consider it, but only if I'm convinced Frazier can handle him. _________________ Wins are a team stat, not a QB stat |
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PrplChilPill
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 7814 Location: SLP, MN
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| rpmwr19 wrote: | | PrplChilPill wrote: | | calipurple wrote: | | I think we could look at Barret Ruud from the Titians. He was pretty sought after as a FA last year but after being out for the majority of the season and getting his spot taken by Collin McCarthy he could come a little cheaper this year. |
Over rated. Not a fan.
I don't buy the premise of the thread at all, as there are plenty of good teams that have signed FAs...but if you want a list, I'll say anyone under 28 that is better than what the Vikings have should be a target. |
I'm not saying don't sign FA's
I'm saying to go out and spend big on free agency. Winning teams don't do that anymore. |
Fair enough, I'm not sure I agree, but fair enough. I'd like to see them sign one big time guy, that they are "sure" is an impact starter. After that, a couple of average/mediocre guys to plug holes until rookies are ready would work.
Like, last year, I wanted Jonathon Joseph...imagine how much better this team would be right now with him on the roster (instead of Robison and McNabb.....with Griffen/Ballard at LDE). _________________ Wins are a team stat, not a QB stat |
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rpmwr19 
 Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 16990 Location: Stillwater, MN
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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DeSean Jackson is someone I would stay away from unless he's gotten over his fear of going over the middle. He's a one-trick pony; although it's a trick he's pretty good at. _________________
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PrplChilPill
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| rpmwr19 wrote: | | DeSean Jackson is someone I would stay away from unless he's gotten over his fear of going over the middle. He's a one-trick pony; although it's a trick he's pretty good at. |
I'd say two trick, the guy is a great punt returner. Having him and Percy return kicks would help this team's field position a ton. _________________ Wins are a team stat, not a QB stat |
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rpmwr19 
 Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 16990 Location: Stillwater, MN
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| PrplChilPill wrote: | | rpmwr19 wrote: | | DeSean Jackson is someone I would stay away from unless he's gotten over his fear of going over the middle. He's a one-trick pony; although it's a trick he's pretty good at. |
I'd say two trick, the guy is a great punt returner. Having him and Percy return kicks would help this team's field position a ton. |
Good point, but for every good play he makes as a punt returner he makes at least one bone-head decision.
I question the guys head and heart, not his talent. _________________
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vikingsrule
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| rpmwr19 wrote: | | PrplChilPill wrote: | | rpmwr19 wrote: | | DeSean Jackson is someone I would stay away from unless he's gotten over his fear of going over the middle. He's a one-trick pony; although it's a trick he's pretty good at. |
I'd say two trick, the guy is a great punt returner. Having him and Percy return kicks would help this team's field position a ton. |
Good point, but for every good play he makes as a punt returner he makes at least one bone-head decision.
I question the guys head and heart, not his talent. |
we have enough possession receivers for Jackson to concentrate on that one trick, i would be fine if mn went after him, assuming the Eagles didnt tag him.I probably wouldnt want to trade more than a 2nd round pick.
Plus he is an extremely deadly PR. Jackson is a talent, but he seems to be going about his contract dispute in the worst possible way. But we have to remember, he is something like 24 years old chasing an 8 figure contract. We will never be in that situation to truly relate to how Jackson should be handling it. |
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vike daddy 

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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| vikingsrule wrote: | | Jackson seems to be going about his contract dispute in the worst possible way. But we have to remember, he is something like 24 years old chasing an 8 figure contract. We will never be in that situation to truly relate to how Jackson should be handling it. |
very well put.
not all of these guys, in fact very few of them, really have any business sense. or the sense to listen to those who do. _________________
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[UMN] 
Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 11832 Location: Desolation Row
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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I would argue that we need to sign LOTS of free agents this year.
Not the high priced or aging kind, but guys that are in the 26-27 year old range and younger can have an impact on the team for many years. We have too many holes to fill to ignore free agents. We need a combination of guys who are young and have room to grow (rookies, UDFAs, low-end free agents) and guys who can contribute now and play at an adequate level for 3-5 years while we address other needs.
Even signing an older guy or two just as a stop gap would help. It just puts off that hole for another year. There are too many holes to fill them all at once, we need to spread it over the course of the next 3-4 seasons. _________________
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Zephiel 
Joined: 11 Mar 2010 Posts: 1912 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Key Mid- to Upper-Tier Free Agents Under Age 30 at Positions of Need for the Vikings
(ordered by age)
Wide Recievers
25 - DeSean Jackson (PHI)
25 - Steve Johnson (BUF)
25 - Mario Manningham (NYG)
25 - Jerome Simpson (CIN)
27 - Dwayne Bowe (KC)
27 - Robert Meachem (NO)
28 - Vincent Jackson (SD)
28 - Marques Colston (NO)
Offensive Linemen
26 - Carl Nicks (NO)
27 - Ben Grubbs (BAL)
27 - Demetrius Bell (BUF)
Defensive Tackles
25 - Jason Jones (TEN)
26 - Pat Sims (CIN)
27 - Paul Soliai (MIA)
28 - Brodrick Bunkley (DEN)
Linebackers
25 - Curtis Lofton (ATL)
26 - Stephen Tulloch (DET)
26 - Dan Connor (CAR)
26 - Jonathan Goff (NYG)
Defensive Backs
24 - Tyvon Branch (OAK)
25 - Brandon Carr (KC)
25 - Tracy Porter (NO)
26 - Terrell Thomas (NYG)
26 - Michael Griffin (TEN)
27 - Cortland Finnegan (TEN)
27 - Tim Jennings (CHI)
27 - Laron Landry (WAS)
28 - Brent Grimes (ATL)
These are bigger names mostly, but still.
At wide receiver, guys with coaching / GM changes may be more inclined to leave where they are (V. Jackson, Bowe) but there are many likely to receive the franchise tag (V. Jackson, Bowe, Johnson). A bigger-name likely option there is Marques Colston, as the Saints have tons of guys to resign this offseason and he (and probably Robert Meachem) may be lost in the scuffle.
The FA guards are elite, but again, New Orleans only has one franchise tag and they have many key players to resign this offseason. Demetrius Bell is probably the only starting-caliber LT in the FA pool this year.
Pat Sims and Brodrick Bunkley are two smaller-name guys that might help us at DT if we don't like Remi Ayodele.
There are some good LBs in this year's FA pool. Tulloch is a sure tackler and it would be great to steal a guy from Detroit, but he might get the Tag. Dan Connor and Jonathan Goff are starting-caliber guys that could be cheaper options if we let go of EJ Henderson. Curtis Lofton is a BIG name but he's competing with Brent Grimes for the Franchise Tag in Atlanta.
A lesser name in the DB pool is Brandon Carr, and I think him and Chris Cook would be a good combo at CB for us. Tim Jennings is underrated as well, and in addition to playing for a division rival, he plays in a similar scheme in Chicago. As far as safeties go, Michael Griffin is the most complete in my opinion, but he'll cost a lot and he might even get the Franchise Tag... Tyvon Branch is only 24 and he's impressive for his age, but no doubt he'll get the tag in Oakland.
Just some options. I think we need to spend bigger this year as opposed to years prior, we have a lot of needs we can fill with some younger free agents in addition to the draft. |
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Purple Faithful
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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I definitely think Manny Lawson will be available & would be an exceptional signing by the Vikings as long as we don't franchise him. _________________ Remember when the Vikings passed on Dan Marino because we had Tommy Kramer? ahhh, good times.
2012 Viking Fan:
Draft like Jimmie Johnson=bad (2 QB's)
Draft like Jerry Jones=good (take an OT top10) |
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