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vikingsrule
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| Purple Faithful wrote: | | I definitely think Manny Lawson will be available & would be an exceptional signing by the Vikings as long as we don't franchise him. |
agreed. the LB position also has a pretty long shelf life in the NFL, so we could probably get a good 4-5 years out of him. |
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Freakout
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't mind targeting a guy like CB Eric Wright who has had a pretty solid year for Detroit. Plus us signing him weakens a division rival and he may end up being a cheaper option.
Depending on what happens with Chris Cook, he and Wright would definitely upgrade our secondary. |
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vikingsrule
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| Freakout wrote: | I wouldn't mind targeting a guy like CB Eric Wright who has had a pretty solid year for Detroit. Plus us signing him weakens a division rival and he may end up being a cheaper option.
Depending on what happens with Chris Cook, he and Wright would definitely upgrade our secondary. |
Wright is another good one. Up and comer in Cleveland, had a poor year in 2009, but has played really well in Detroit. He is still pretty young at 27, and could be a solid RCB for us and maybe a long term nickel CB.
The Lions have a ton of free agents to deal with as well, Wright is guy who surely could be lost a bit. |
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rpmwr19
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Purple Faithful wrote: | | I definitely think Manny Lawson will be available & would be an exceptional signing by the Vikings as long as we don't franchise him. |
We can't franchise another teams player...
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Klomp
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Zephiel wrote: | Wide Recievers
25 - DeSean Jackson (PHI)
25 - Steve Johnson (BUF)
25 - Mario Manningham (NYG)
25 - Jerome Simpson (CIN)
27 - Dwayne Bowe (KC)
27 - Robert Meachem (NO)
28 - Vincent Jackson (SD)
28 - Marques Colston (NO) |
I'm still very high on targeting Meachem. He's a big-bodied downfield threat and is a solid run-blocker (important for us). Going off that list, he should fly under the radar as 5 of those listed should get more attention from other teams. That also means he should come cheaper too.
Use our early picks to address bigger needs. Maybe find a guy like McNutt in the 4th. |
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Purple Faithful
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| rpmwr19 wrote: | | Purple Faithful wrote: | | I definitely think Manny Lawson will be available & would be an exceptional signing by the Vikings as long as we don't franchise him. |
We can't franchise another teams player... |
Whoosh...
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Midwestboy84
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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HUH....what you mean why spend money on top free agents? I mean you play to win the game, I mean what championships can you win with rebuilding every year for long time? I mean I would go over the edge with the "Older" free agents, but the younger ones who are showing some promise I would definitely sign. Look the years of the "choir" boys are over with, the Vikings need to make some splash and soon. I already think they dropped the ball in the draft with not getting Nick Fairley to help out with the aging defense. I mean we can't get all that we need in the draft and we have our young stars who are starting to go into their prime (AP and Percy). The time is now or at least within 2 years. The NFC aint that top heavy, so we can get back on top with a few good Free Agents and some clever draft picks.
| rpmwr19 wrote: | Why do we need to spend money on top tier free agents? So we can compete next year? There is no way this team competes next year. The Packers, Ravens, Steelers, and others have competed pretty much without spending a dime in free agency.
The Ravens grabbed Matt Birk, but he came relatively cheap and was a piece that augmented their already deep roster that was built mainly thru the draft and lower level FA's or UDFAs.
The Packers grabbed Woodson but he was largely believed to be done and wasn't too expensive.
Teams that are consistent contenders do not spend big money in free agency. They spend big money retaining their own free agents. |
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Midwestboy84
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He doesn't have a fear of going over the middle, remember he almost had his head taken off when he did that last season!!!
| rpmwr19 wrote: | | DeSean Jackson is someone I would stay away from unless he's gotten over his fear of going over the middle. He's a one-trick pony; although it's a trick he's pretty good at. |
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Lil Uno
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The Vikings nearly accquired Vincent Jackson from the Chargers awhile back. Anyone think we make a major play for him this offseason. It looks like the Chargers wont franchise him again so he should see the open market. However, at 29 next year it he would have 3 maybe 4 good years left in him.
Another interesting player is Falcons tackle Sam Baker. He was benched halfway through the season so there is a good chance he may be released. The biggest knock on Baker coming out of USC was his short arms, and it has hindered him in the NFL. At 6-5, 310 he could be an option at LG for a cheaper price.
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vikingsrule
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| Lil Uno wrote: | The Vikings nearly accquired Vincent Jackson from the Chargers awhile back. Anyone think we make a major play for him this offseason. It looks like the Chargers wont franchise him again so he should see the open market. However, at 29 next year it he would have 3 maybe 4 good years left in him.
Another interesting player is Falcons tackle Sam Baker. He was benched halfway through the season so there is a good chance he may be released. The biggest knock on Baker coming out of USC was his short arms, and it has hindered him in the NFL. At 6-5, 310 he could be an option at LG for a cheaper price. |
I would gladly take Sam Baker at LG, he would be a solid option and will svitek has clearly out played him. Switching Baker to LG would be ideal, although, im sure he would be an upgrade over Charlie Johnson at LT.
Vincent Jackson is older, and would be an ideal immediate impact WR. You just have to wonder, why would Jackson come here? If he gets to test the market, I could see a team like the Jets, Redskins or Eagles making a huge offer, and im sure, Jackson would be more interested in signing with one of those bigger market teams. |
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El Raymundo
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| Eastern Walrus wrote: | | DeSean Jackson talk already come to a stop? I would like to see him in purple and I think he's young enough to still produce for the Vikings for years to come |
Except he seems to be a bit of a tool.
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| [UMN] wrote: | I would argue that we need to sign LOTS of free agents this year.
Not the high priced or aging kind, but guys that are in the 26-27 year old range and younger can have an impact on the team for many years. We have too many holes to fill to ignore free agents. We need a combination of guys who are young and have room to grow (rookies, UDFAs, low-end free agents) and guys who can contribute now and play at an adequate level for 3-5 years while we address other needs.
Even signing an older guy or two just as a stop gap would help. It just puts off that hole for another year. There are too many holes to fill them all at once, we need to spread it over the course of the next 3-4 seasons. |
This reminds me of how the Patriots built their team in the early 2000s.
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| El Raymundo wrote: | | [UMN] wrote: | I would argue that we need to sign LOTS of free agents this year.
Not the high priced or aging kind, but guys that are in the 26-27 year old range and younger can have an impact on the team for many years. We have too many holes to fill to ignore free agents. We need a combination of guys who are young and have room to grow (rookies, UDFAs, low-end free agents) and guys who can contribute now and play at an adequate level for 3-5 years while we address other needs.
Even signing an older guy or two just as a stop gap would help. It just puts off that hole for another year. There are too many holes to fill them all at once, we need to spread it over the course of the next 3-4 seasons. |
This reminds me of how the Patriots built their team in the early 2000s. |
I agree. When you have gaping holes, filling those is more important than getting better where you are already adequate. I'd rather see 2-4 DBs signed that are average or slightly below average, than see 1 great DB signed, for example. The Pats signed a bunch of guys earlier this century, because they had gaping holes. They filled those, and added a couple of great, great players. The Vikings could do that, if they are right on every decision.
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El Raymundo
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| Midwestboy84 wrote: | | The NFC aint that top heavy, so we can get back on top with a few good Free Agents and some clever draft picks. |
I've got to disagree with you on this. The NFC is indeed top-heavy. In fact, our own division is top heavy. I think we're two or three years from seriously competing on a consistent basis with New Orleans, Green Bay, Detroit, Atlanta, and Philadelphia. (I'm not sold on the long-term viability of San Francisco, we always seem to play the Giants well, and Carolina and Seattle look promising, but not dominant for the next couple of years.)
Feel free to stick this in signatures and poke fun at me about it later on if I'm wrong, but I really only see us competing with Chicago for third place in the Norris over the next two seasons. I'm ok with that, as long as improvement is steady and quantifiable and consistently upward - and not of the "all-in" variety that Major Brad went for in 2009.
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El Raymundo
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| PrplChilPill wrote: | | El Raymundo wrote: | | [UMN] wrote: | I would argue that we need to sign LOTS of free agents this year.
Not the high priced or aging kind, but guys that are in the 26-27 year old range and younger can have an impact on the team for many years. We have too many holes to fill to ignore free agents. We need a combination of guys who are young and have room to grow (rookies, UDFAs, low-end free agents) and guys who can contribute now and play at an adequate level for 3-5 years while we address other needs.
Even signing an older guy or two just as a stop gap would help. It just puts off that hole for another year. There are too many holes to fill them all at once, we need to spread it over the course of the next 3-4 seasons. |
This reminds me of how the Patriots built their team in the early 2000s. |
I agree. When you have gaping holes, filling those is more important than getting better where you are already adequate. I'd rather see 2-4 DBs signed that are average or slightly below average, than see 1 great DB signed, for example. The Pats signed a bunch of guys earlier this century, because they had gaping holes. They filled those, and added a couple of great, great players. The Vikings could do that, if they are right on every decision. |
And then they schemed gameplans around the players they had, much like what John Fox has done offensively in Denver. If life gives you a wooden screwdriver, don't try jamming it into an electrical outlet just because you prefer power tools.
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