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Mid-Season EPL First Choice DM
Yaya Toure, Manchester City
11%
 11%  [ 3 ]
Gareth Barry, Manchester City
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Scott Parker, Tottenham Hotspur
23%
 23%  [ 6 ]
Alex Song, Arsenal
7%
 7%  [ 2 ]
Phil Jones, Manchester United
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Lucas Leiva, Liverpool
46%
 46%  [ 12 ]
Oriol Romeu, Chelsea
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Jack Rodwell, Everton
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Other (Please specify)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
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yankee0724


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just make that wide 4-4-2 diamond from FM.

1 DM
LM/RM/LW/RW
AM
2 Strikers

Boom.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yankee0724 wrote:
Just make that wide 4-4-2 diamond from FM.

1 DM
LM/RM/LW/RW
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2 Strikers

Boom.
Yeah, that is what I was trying to say but you put it much better.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Wyzzinator wrote:
Okay save banter for the next round of voting but first I need some opinions.

Of the 5 positions left, I'm not necessarily looking to form some amazing formation that makes sense on paper, rather just identify the top players positionally. Given that, I'm assuming I should have 2 strikers in the team, and if I include 'wingers' as attacking midfielders, we could have 3 attacking midfielders, and one deeper lying midfielder.

Even though it'd be a standard '4-4-2' and probably wouldn't make sense on paper, it would avoid snubbing someone who's more deserved due to the fact that if I go strictly with LW, RW, it will limit options significantly since a lot of players i.e Mata/Silva are hard to define.

(It also means Kempus rage if Bale doesn't make the team)

Alternate opinions welcome before I start compiling my players once I get back to my place later.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking just 3 midfielders and 3 "attackers"
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dotmotion wrote:
I was thinking just 3 midfielders and 3 "attackers"
You mean three midfielders and three Balotelli's right?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeeEvans wrote:
dotmotion wrote:
I was thinking just 3 midfielders and 3 "attackers"
You mean three midfielders and three Balotelli's right?


Hahaa, to be fair I think tha formation would work. Spurs,Arsenal, Chelsea and City all pretty much play that formation.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yankee0724 wrote:
Just make that wide 4-4-2 diamond from FM.

1 DM
LM/RM/LW/RW
AM
2 Strikers

Boom.


But at the same time, that leaves out people who aren't defensive midfielders, but aren't attacking mids.

Quite the conundrum.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yankee0724 wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
Just make that wide 4-4-2 diamond from FM.

1 DM
LM/RM/LW/RW
AM
2 Strikers

Boom.


But at the same time, that leaves out people who aren't defensive midfielders, but aren't attacking mids.

Quite the conundrum.
I guess you could do a 4-4-2 with Parker taking one of the CM spots and have the attacking midfielders being a poll with wingers.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeeEvans wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
Just make that wide 4-4-2 diamond from FM.

1 DM
LM/RM/LW/RW
AM
2 Strikers

Boom.


But at the same time, that leaves out people who aren't defensive midfielders, but aren't attacking mids.

Quite the conundrum.
I guess you could do a 4-4-2 with Parker taking one of the CM spots and have the attacking midfielders being a poll with wingers.


True but then I feel like it'd be kind of a shoe in for the remaining four spots (Silva, Mata, Ba, Van Persie) Which makes me wonder if I should stop now since the back 4 was probably the hardest part to objectively pick for myself Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well obviously, we should use a 3-5-2, MLS Style
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Wyzzinator wrote:
LeeEvans wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
Just make that wide 4-4-2 diamond from FM.

1 DM
LM/RM/LW/RW
AM
2 Strikers

Boom.


But at the same time, that leaves out people who aren't defensive midfielders, but aren't attacking mids.

Quite the conundrum.
I guess you could do a 4-4-2 with Parker taking one of the CM spots and have the attacking midfielders being a poll with wingers.


True but then I feel like it'd be kind of a shoe in for the remaining four spots (Silva, Mata, Ba, Van Persie) Which makes me wonder if I should stop now since the back 4 was probably the hardest part to objectively pick for myself Razz


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Wyzzinator wrote:
LeeEvans wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
Just make that wide 4-4-2 diamond from FM.

1 DM
LM/RM/LW/RW
AM
2 Strikers

Boom.


But at the same time, that leaves out people who aren't defensive midfielders, but aren't attacking mids.

Quite the conundrum.
I guess you could do a 4-4-2 with Parker taking one of the CM spots and have the attacking midfielders being a poll with wingers.


True but then I feel like it'd be kind of a shoe in for the remaining four spots (Silva, Mata, Ba, Van Persie) Which makes me wonder if I should stop now since the back 4 was probably the hardest part to objectively pick for myself Razz


The only ones of those I'd say would be a definite shoe-in are RVP and Silva.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yankee0724 wrote:
The Wyzzinator wrote:
LeeEvans wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
Just make that wide 4-4-2 diamond from FM.

1 DM
LM/RM/LW/RW
AM
2 Strikers

Boom.


But at the same time, that leaves out people who aren't defensive midfielders, but aren't attacking mids.

Quite the conundrum.
I guess you could do a 4-4-2 with Parker taking one of the CM spots and have the attacking midfielders being a poll with wingers.


True but then I feel like it'd be kind of a shoe in for the remaining four spots (Silva, Mata, Ba, Van Persie) Which makes me wonder if I should stop now since the back 4 was probably the hardest part to objectively pick for myself Razz


The only ones of those I'd say would be a definite shoe-in are RVP and Silva.
Ba is absolutely in IMO. He has been phenomenal and if anyone got in over him it would be an absolute travesty.

I think Mata and Bale for a winger spot would be a very close poll.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeeEvans wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
The Wyzzinator wrote:
LeeEvans wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
Just make that wide 4-4-2 diamond from FM.

1 DM
LM/RM/LW/RW
AM
2 Strikers

Boom.


But at the same time, that leaves out people who aren't defensive midfielders, but aren't attacking mids.

Quite the conundrum.
I guess you could do a 4-4-2 with Parker taking one of the CM spots and have the attacking midfielders being a poll with wingers.


True but then I feel like it'd be kind of a shoe in for the remaining four spots (Silva, Mata, Ba, Van Persie) Which makes me wonder if I should stop now since the back 4 was probably the hardest part to objectively pick for myself Razz


The only ones of those I'd say would be a definite shoe-in are RVP and Silva.
Ba is absolutely in IMO. He has been phenomenal and if anyone got in over him it would be an absolute travesty.

I think Mata and Bale for a winger spot would be a very close poll.


Ba has been immense, but I would personally put Aguero and RVP up front. Aguero has as many games played, 1 less goal and 3 more assists. He's honestly the only person I'd think of putting in over Ba.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeeEvans wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
The Wyzzinator wrote:
LeeEvans wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
yankee0724 wrote:
Just make that wide 4-4-2 diamond from FM.

1 DM
LM/RM/LW/RW
AM
2 Strikers

Boom.


But at the same time, that leaves out people who aren't defensive midfielders, but aren't attacking mids.

Quite the conundrum.
I guess you could do a 4-4-2 with Parker taking one of the CM spots and have the attacking midfielders being a poll with wingers.


True but then I feel like it'd be kind of a shoe in for the remaining four spots (Silva, Mata, Ba, Van Persie) Which makes me wonder if I should stop now since the back 4 was probably the hardest part to objectively pick for myself Razz


The only ones of those I'd say would be a definite shoe-in are RVP and Silva.
Ba is absolutely in IMO. He has been phenomenal and if anyone got in over him it would be an absolute travesty.

I think Mata and Bale for a winger spot would be a very close poll.


Indeed. I think I'd take Mata in that instance but it's very close. Bale to me is a one trick pony. He's a god at performing that trick, but Mata can play anywhere in the front four, and his passing is much more polished.
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