The Official Oregon Ducks Thread, v3.0

skatebeanz · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:24 am Post subject:

http://fishduck.com/2012/10/is-that-what-you-stand-for-justin-wilcox/

Makes me sick.
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justo · Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:09 pm Post subject:

swoosh · Joined: 03 Dec 2010 Posts: 4899 Location: UO

No offer was made to Conley the other day, but they told him he is everything they are looking for and are extremely interested.
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skatebeanz · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:23 am Post subject:

I have a legit concern over ASU. I think I get overly stressed TBH tho. I was worried about UW and Zona too and we won by a combined 70. Laughing

Kelly is very efficient and DJ Foster is a beast. Graham looks to be a good hire thus far. He has the best record of any new coaches in a class of good to elite coaches (IMO).
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justo · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:11 pm Post subject:

I was more worried about Zona than anyone else we faced but I wasn't really worried to be honest. Remember how many times we stopped Zona close to the redzone though. Could have been a totally different score if the D didn't play A+ ball that night. I agree about ASU though...this team is a single score on the road vs an SEC from being undefeated. I actually think they might win the south. I though Graham was the 2nd worst HC hire in our conference over the offseason but it looks like I'm about to eat a lot of crow.
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kitsnow · Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 1354

No Offer on Conley, he won't visit without an offer, but he would probably commit if we did because M would pull his from them.

skatebeanz · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject:

kitsnow · Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 1354

Derp Remington suspended. Derp depth

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justo · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:35 pm Post subject:

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skatebeanz · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:25 am Post subject:

I got into a discussion the other day. Does Chip get enough credit?

Coaches say players win games. However looking at pure raw numbers Oregon has prolly bottom half/top middle amount of players drafted into the NFL each year on average from PAC-12/10.

Oregon is also usually around number 3 in our conference in recruiting.

So Oregon has the 2nd or 3rd or 4th best players coming in and 4,5,6,7th best players coming out. So the players actually regress (persey). Then add on the fact that the players aren't that great when they are here. For example out of like 10 different sites that name All American's we had a total of 1, name 1 player of Oregon from last year. Some place I never heard of said James was AA. On the other hand Stanford's QB had 10, their OG had 10, there TE had like 8, their OT had like 5, 2 LBs had like 6, etc...

So do people ignore Oregon when it comes to awards or does Chip and the other coaches really win with lesser talent then everyone else has?

Another example. LaMichael James was 1300 yards away from being the all time leader in rushing yards yet he is the 5th best player at his position that were available in the draft? The leader in yards all time was Ron Dayne and he went 11th overall. He had less YPC, more attempts and was more used when he went out. Think about this. Oregon's best player last year was James. Their best player was only the 5th best at his position when he left and was in the teens or 20's when he came out. His Freshman year a RB won the Heisman and was drafted in the first round as the best RB. His second year he won Doak Walker for best RB. His third year he was the 4-5th best RB via AA's announced. The best RB from James' third year went #3 overall and was the first RB selected. So despite James having better stats than either of those 2 he is the 5th player selected. He was the only RB in the last 3 years to win the DW award and not be the first RB selected in the NFL draft or be selected in the first round.

Oregon's QB was 3rd or 4th best in their own conference. Their TE was 3rd or 4th best in their own conference. Their WR was 8th(?) in their own conference. How does that generate a top 5 offense in the country?

Using peoples thoughts/rankings on players Oregon doesn't start, use or end with anyone close to the best players.

Something just doesn't add up to me. Coaches say players win games. That has been proven wrong with the numbers above. If it were scheme, the spread is used all over. People can manufacture our system with (possibly) better players. It is like this team defines the word team. Can I have your thoughts?
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Oregon Ducks · Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 12894

lol...I think this years seniors were Chip's first class as HC. Chill bro. We have quite a bit of NFL talent. More than under Bellotti.

Our players regressing...that might be the dumbest things I've seen you post...and that's saying something.
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