FF Soccer All-Time XI Draft - Finals - kempus vs. amac

dotmotion · Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 10196 Location: Vancouver

And kempus wins

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amac · Joined: 11 Aug 2011 Posts: 1279

so would i have been better off using this

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kempus · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:07 am Post subject:

Shows how much ElRey knows about Football, putting me as the 9th best team Laughing

Seriously though, thanks for the votes, I'm very happy to have been named Champion Cool

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amac · Joined: 11 Aug 2011 Posts: 1279

kempus · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject:

teamorange · Joined: 15 Nov 2010 Posts: 7114

I am surprised no one picked Kubala for their team. One of the best players from the 50s and 3rd highest scorer for Barcelona ever. He would be considered one of the best if he was such a hedonist. He made George Best look like a choir boy (hyperbole)

amac · Joined: 11 Aug 2011 Posts: 1279

Zico had similar playmaking abilities to Laudrup and was 10x the dribbler and finisher. not even close imo

Pele isnt a true winger in the sense that he would be cutting inside most of the game, the same way messi does when he plays on the wing. Redondo would cover for Cole
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RoxSox2004 · Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Posts: 16661

Laudrup was a pure playmaker, Zico was more of a second striker. I'd prefer Laudrup, especially in that role.
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kempus · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:19 pm Post subject:

Quotes on Laudrup

Romário: "The best player I have ever played with and the 5th best in the history of the game"

Raúl: "The best I have ever played with."

Cruyff: "When Michael plays like a dream, a magic illusion, determined to show his new team his extreme abilities, no one in the world comes anywhere near his level."

Guardiola: "The best player in the world, I can't believe he hasn't won the title as best player."

Beckenbauer: "Pelé was the best in the 60s, Cruyff in the 70s, Maradona in the 80s and Laudrup in the 90s."

Koeman: "Michael was possibly the most skilful and elegant player I ever played with. Few could dribble like he could. He could sense when a game was ready to be seized and transformed by a moment of individual brilliance."

Figo:"I think maybe Laudrup was the best player I ever played against."

Mourinho:"He was phenomenal in Barcelona. He was a fantastic player whom I would love to have on my team today."

Iniesta:"Who is the best player in history? Laudrup."

Laudrup>>>>Zico
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amac · Joined: 11 Aug 2011 Posts: 1279

take away Zico's dribbling and scoring abilities, make him focus more on passing and you have Michael Laudrup Razz

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kempus · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:27 pm Post subject:

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dotmotion · Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 10196 Location: Vancouver

Laudrap is not better than Zico imo. I can accept that Laudrap is a better playmaker but as an overall footballer, Zico is a better player. However, they are different players, Laudrap is more the classical playmaker ala Xavi, who dictates temp and controls the midfield, Zico is more of a AMC who can play across the pitch, push up ala Messi. To me, Zico more skilled then Laudrap. His ball control and dribbling ability is ten folds better than Laudrap, there just isn't a comparison there. His free kick, shooting are also better than Laudrap's (but not as much as his on ball ability). Personally, I think Zico's vision and passing ability is on par with Laudrap but we just don't see it in the way he plays. Let me go back to that example. There is no doubt in my mind that Messi can drop in the MC and be just as good in his vision and passing range as Xavi, but we don't see it as much because he plays high up the pitch and has less room to operate. However, even if you think Laudrap is better, it is not by too much.

Also, don't give me the league crap. The Brazilian and South Americans leagues were still top tier in the 70s and 80s. amac posted a short clip but the full Flamengo v. Liverpool game is online if you look. Flamengo didn't just win against Liverpool with Dalglish, Souness, Lee, Hansen, etc, they dominated them, they embarrassed them. This was the same for other SA teams like Nacional, Independiente , Gremio teams they face in Copa Lipa... or the Brazilian league who won the Intercontinental cup year after year. He went to the Serie A at 31 and although was injured for about 10 games was still 2nd in League scoring. International football, he also dominated with 52 goals in 72 games from the midfield.
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