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JaguarCrazy2832


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
I guess I'll be the one to go first.

Only thing that sucks is that we'll probably trade back (or at least trade at some point) and that makes the pick # projections harder lol


You arent projecting the pick #.

You put down your 7 picks, but they have to be selected in order.

If you put down Nick Perry as our first pick, but he is our 2nd, you dont get any points for that.


As you know, matching player to the pick is VERY tough which is why it is worth much more. Matching the 5pts or 3pts is much easier
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
I guess I'll be the one to go first.

Only thing that sucks is that we'll probably trade back (or at least trade at some point) and that makes the pick # projections harder lol


You arent projecting the pick #.

You put down your 7 picks, but they have to be selected in order.

If you put down Nick Perry as our first pick, but he is our 2nd, you dont get any points for that.


As you know, matching player to the pick is VERY tough which is why it is worth much more. Matching the 5pts or 3pts is much easier


That's what I was saying... I was just using your wording from the OP...

But oh, I didn't know we still got points if we had them projected as a different pick. The OP made it sound like that if that scenario happened, we'd receive ZERO points.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
I guess I'll be the one to go first.

Only thing that sucks is that we'll probably trade back (or at least trade at some point) and that makes the pick # projections harder lol


You arent projecting the pick #.

You put down your 7 picks, but they have to be selected in order.

If you put down Nick Perry as our first pick, but he is our 2nd, you dont get any points for that.


As you know, matching player to the pick is VERY tough which is why it is worth much more. Matching the 5pts or 3pts is much easier


That's what I was saying... I was just using your wording from the OP...

But oh, I didn't know we still got points if we had them projected as a different pick. The OP made it sound like that if that scenario happened, we'd receive ZERO points.


Post the scenario as you would predict and I will tell you what would happen. Then just edit it so it doesnt look like your entry
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
I guess I'll be the one to go first.

Only thing that sucks is that we'll probably trade back (or at least trade at some point) and that makes the pick # projections harder lol


You arent projecting the pick #.

You put down your 7 picks, but they have to be selected in order.

If you put down Nick Perry as our first pick, but he is our 2nd, you dont get any points for that.


As you know, matching player to the pick is VERY tough which is why it is worth much more. Matching the 5pts or 3pts is much easier


That's what I was saying... I was just using your wording from the OP...

But oh, I didn't know we still got points if we had them projected as a different pick. The OP made it sound like that if that scenario happened, we'd receive ZERO points.


Post the scenario as you would predict and I will tell you what would happen. Then just edit it so it doesnt look like your entry



I really liked the system where if we picked someone in round 1 and they actually went to us in round 2 then we get some points.

It is a shame that it was abused by putting 1st round prospects in the 7th just to get points. However, i was guilty of doing that lol.

I think if we pick a guy we should get credit for him if he goes to us 2 rounds higher or 2 rounds lower.


if the player is actually picked 1 pick before or 1 pick after you had him going you should receive (x) amount of points

If the player is actually picked 2 picks before or 2 picks after then you receive (x/2) points



FOR EXAMPLE. Lets say that x=2

Scenario 1:
In my mock i had michael floyd going to us with our first pick. If we actually took him with our second pick then i would get 2 points. if we actually took him with our third pick then i would recieve 2/2 points which equals 1.

Now slightly more complicated scenario 2:
In my mock i have ladarius green with our 4th pick. If he goes to us in the 3rd round or the 5th round then I receive 2 points. If he goes to us in the 2nd or 6th then i receive 1 point.


I think this is a great system because it allows for some flexbiliy with the picks. This system is aimed at trying to nail the lower round picks. a guy like dale moss could go to us in the 7th, but he could also go to us in the 5th. Nailing that pick should be rewarded.

I propose that we set x=4. I think it would add another element to the competition and make it more fun/competitive.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only problem I have had with that is that in the past people will put obvious 1st round talent as our 2nd round pick to get a better chance at getting more points. That is the only problem I have with it, people have abused a rule very similar to that in the past
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
Round 1 - Whitney Mercilus
Cornerback

Round 2 - Brian Quick
Cornerback

Round 3 - Josh Norman
Tight End

Round 4 - Michael Egnew
Receiver

Round 5 -
Position

Round 6 -
Position

Round 7 -
Position


Is this the gist of how a submission should go? I know I haven't done the last three rounds yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
Round 1 - Whitney Mercilus
Cornerback

Round 2 - Brian Quick
Cornerback

Round 3 - Josh Norman
Tight End

Round 4 - Michael Egnew
Receiver

Round 5 -
Position

Round 6 -
Position

Round 7 -
Position


Is this the gist of how a submission should go? I know I haven't done the last three rounds yet.


Just remember that if Jacksonville trades, the round thing becomes pointless and then it becomes about matching player/position to the pick # instead of round
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
Pick 1 - Whitney Mercilus
Cornerback

Pick 2 - Brian Quick
Cornerback

Pick 3 - Josh Norman
Tight End

Pick 4 - Michael Egnew
Receiver

Pick 5 -
Position

Pick 6 -
Position

Pick 7 -
Position


Is this the gist of how a submission should go? I know I haven't done the last three rounds yet.


Just remember that if Jacksonville trades, the round thing becomes pointless and then it becomes about matching player/position to the pick # instead of round


I got you. So it just goes by pick, so I could do ten of them - but if Gene only ends up with 5 selections, only the first five would count?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
Pick 1 - Whitney Mercilus
Cornerback

Pick 2 - Brian Quick
Cornerback

Pick 3 - Josh Norman
Tight End

Pick 4 - Michael Egnew
Receiver

Pick 5 -
Position

Pick 6 -
Position

Pick 7 -
Position


Is this the gist of how a submission should go? I know I haven't done the last three rounds yet.


Just remember that if Jacksonville trades, the round thing becomes pointless and then it becomes about matching player/position to the pick # instead of round


I got you. So it just goes by pick, so I could do ten of them - but if Gene only ends up with 5 selections, only the first five would count?


You can only do 7. The first 7 picks will be scored, thats it
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
Pick 1 - Whitney Mercilus
Cornerback

Pick 2 - Brian Quick
Cornerback

Pick 3 - Josh Norman
Tight End

Pick 4 - Michael Egnew
Receiver

Pick 5 -
Position

Pick 6 -
Position

Pick 7 -
Position


Is this the gist of how a submission should go? I know I haven't done the last three rounds yet.


Just remember that if Jacksonville trades, the round thing becomes pointless and then it becomes about matching player/position to the pick # instead of round


I got you. So it just goes by pick, so I could do ten of them - but if Gene only ends up with 5 selections, only the first five would count?


You can only do 7. The first 7 picks will be scored, thats it


Good. I was starting to confuse myself with this simple concept.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad this is generating some buzz. Hopefully people start signing up again
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
The only problem I have had with that is that in the past people will put obvious 1st round talent as our 2nd round pick to get a better chance at getting more points. That is the only problem I have with it, people have abused a rule very similar to that in the past



i know what you mean, it definitely took away from the fun of it.

It is something to consider to make the game more fun. If we set x=2 then it wouldnt really give people that much incentive to do that. Players in the later rounds could be picked anywhere from round 4 - round 7. that fact is what this system is targeted towards.


it does make it more complicated though
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FREDDY T wrote:
JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
The only problem I have had with that is that in the past people will put obvious 1st round talent as our 2nd round pick to get a better chance at getting more points. That is the only problem I have with it, people have abused a rule very similar to that in the past



i know what you mean, it definitely took away from the fun of it.

It is something to consider to make the game more fun. If we set x=2 then it wouldnt really give people that much incentive to do that. Players in the later rounds could be picked anywhere from round 4 - round 7. that fact is what this system is targeted towards.


it does make it more complicated though


I definitely understand the concept, and it makes sense, but I think I'd rather keep the system simple right now
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In order make sure everyone knows where I'm drawing the positions from, use this is a reference: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=wr&draftyear=2012&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Round 1 - Fletcher Cox, DT (CB)
Round 2 - Vinny Curry, DE (WR)
Round 3 - Brian Quick, WR (OT)
Round 4 - Chris Greenwood, CB (WR)
Round 5 - Jeff Adams, OT (OG)
Round 6 - Derek Carrier, TE (QB)
Round 7 - Daryl Richardson, RB (WR)


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