The Michael Vick thread

Phire · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:02 am Post subject: The Michael Vick thread

Love him, hate him, or remain neutral, the fact remains that Michael Vick is our starting quarterback.

With the Michael Vick offense we see a few things different from the McNabb era offense, here are some points of interest:

1) Boom or bust. The Eagles offense under Vick seems to be highlighted by the highlights and the low-lights. What I mean by that (since it doesn't make sense even to me) is that when the Eagles offense is on, it's really on. When it's off, it's frustrating to watch. Can Vick improve upon his efficiency?

There is some reason for optimism. This will be Vick's first off-season as the starting quarterback. Say what you will about Reid but for a quarterback like Vick, a full off-season as the focal point of the offense will be huge.

More reason for optimism is the fact that in the 4 game winning streak to end the 2011-2012 season, Vick posted his first 3 consecutive games with a 100 or over QB rating. They weren't terribly exciting games, but they weren't terribly frustrating either.

2. Run or not run? We still see Vick run from time to time. And when he does, we know he's still one of the most prolific running quarterbacks in history. He can outrun defenders to the edge and can keep plays alive.

I think a part of what he's had to do so far is cope with the fact that the offense needs him to become a pocket passer, or at least, a pocket passer first, and a runner second. The full off-season will help. But it still remains: how does Vick utilize his running ability?

Will he predictably run to his left almost every time he's in trouble? Will his running ability be used when all else fails? Will he try to remain in the pocket and reduce his running?

3. Injury. Can the guy stay healthy? Say what you will about the 2011-2012 season, a play here, a Mark Sanchez there, and we're in the play-offs.

The fact of the matter is, if your starting QB is missing time then you're in trouble. Ask Indianapolis.

4. Height. Will this remain a visible problem? Why do so much of his throws get batted down? Is it really height? There are other QBs who aren't much taller than Vick, yet, he seems to have his throws batted down quite often.

Will this change with the off-season?
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Phire · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:10 am Post subject:

Post your thoughts, favorite pictures, favorite memories, whatever Very Happy

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UKEaglesFan · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:01 am Post subject:

I liked it better when we had D-Mac and KK! Cool

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Kiltman · Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 11021 Location: Flipadelphia

Luckily the FO is smart with how they structured his contract. Along with Andy and co....if he doesn't have a good year he's gone. But I think we will see the best consistent version of Micheal Vick this year, maybe one or none of the MNF vs the Skins level games, but consistent good level of play.
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Phire · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:16 am Post subject:

Kiltman · Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 11021 Location: Flipadelphia

jonu62882 · Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 18416 Location: Philadelphia, PA

I love watching Mike Vick play. I haven't been this excited since McNabb early 00's.

This kind of athleticism amazes me. I get giddy like a little schoolgirl when watching him.

RainbowCarebear · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:01 am Post subject:

He needs to be smarter with the ball, and not just interceptions, but more fumbles. Half his interception were because of people hitting right before he threw the ball (Part of this is his fault, but also O-line for not protecting him better and Receivers getting open), or tipped pass by Receivers.

Ideally, Marty & Andy will use Shady more, but also get the backup Running back involved. And use Celek god dammit!
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UKEaglesFan · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:11 am Post subject:

Phire · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:17 am Post subject:

Phire · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:18 am Post subject:

Phire · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:20 am Post subject:

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/dave-spadaro/article-1/Emphasis-On-Red-Zone-Efficiency/723732dd-519b-4213-8192-ceccc1f932f0

UKEaglesFan · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:43 am Post subject:

What frustrates me the most about the Red Zone is that on a drive they'll try the same type of play when it doesn't work the first time. The amount of times we try pass / pass / pass or run / run / run on 1st and goal always amazes me.
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marky_b27 · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:54 am Post subject:

Turnovers are key. Doesn't matter if Vick throws 2000, 3000 or even 4000 yards. If he doesn't cut down his turnovers, we ain't going to the playoffs.

Vick's career (at least with Philadelphia) is at a crucial point. An inconsistent year, and Andy, along with Vick will be shown the door.
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