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RollEagles
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| ninjapirate wrote: | | philyeagles3 wrote: | Once Griffin is drafted Vick won't be the most gifted player in the league 
atleast me might have the new one on our team  |
I would cream my jorts something fierce if we got RG3, too bad we didn't play any real teams down the stretch could have had a new coach and been in a better spot for Robert. |
I don't know if we would have traded up to get RGIII with a new coach. Depends on who the coach would have been.
I think part of the reason we have been linked to RGIII is because Andy likes that type of QB and because of that interview and the "mystery team."
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| I have no idea why people keep overhyping this "he finally gets a full offseason" excuse. Andy Dalton was a rookie and didn't have an offseason either. He still performed extremely well. No team had an offseason. Vick is exciting and the way he plays is exciting but he won't be any better in 2012. The guy is going to be 32 and still hasn't learned the nuances of the game yet. His best asset is his athleticism and his athleticism is almost exactly why he's so injury prone now. A team that is all in for a Super Bowl can't be that unstable at the most important position in sports. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| RollEagles wrote: | | ninjapirate wrote: | | philyeagles3 wrote: | Once Griffin is drafted Vick won't be the most gifted player in the league
atleast me might have the new one on our team |
I would cream my jorts something fierce if we got RG3, too bad we didn't play any real teams down the stretch could have had a new coach and been in a better spot for Robert. |
I don't know if we would have traded up to get RGIII with a new coach. Depends on who the coach would have been.
I think part of the reason we have been linked to RGIII is because Andy likes that type of QB and because of that interview and the "mystery team." |
Well yeah but at least Andy would have been gone. That's something.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| RollEagles wrote: | | ninjapirate wrote: | | philyeagles3 wrote: | Once Griffin is drafted Vick won't be the most gifted player in the league
atleast me might have the new one on our team |
I would cream my jorts something fierce if we got RG3, too bad we didn't play any real teams down the stretch could have had a new coach and been in a better spot for Robert. |
I don't know if we would have traded up to get RGIII with a new coach. Depends on who the coach would have been.
I think part of the reason we have been linked to RGIII is because Andy likes that type of QB and because of that interview and the "mystery team." |
new coach new qb is the general philosophy. RGIII would have been considered. |
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| highboy wrote: | | I have no idea why people keep overhyping this "he finally gets a full offseason" excuse. Andy Dalton was a rookie and didn't have an offseason either. He still performed extremely well. No team had an offseason. Vick is exciting and the way he plays is exciting but he won't be any better in 2012. The guy is going to be 32 and still hasn't learned the nuances of the game yet. His best asset is his athleticism and his athleticism is almost exactly why he's so injury prone now. A team that is all in for a Super Bowl can't be that unstable at the most important position in sports. |
First off Dalton had a respectable season but I wouldn't say extremely well. They didn't beat one playoff team. Dalton didn't hurt his team with TOs.
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| nlesthought wrote: | | highboy wrote: | | I have no idea why people keep overhyping this "he finally gets a full offseason" excuse. Andy Dalton was a rookie and didn't have an offseason either. He still performed extremely well. No team had an offseason. Vick is exciting and the way he plays is exciting but he won't be any better in 2012. The guy is going to be 32 and still hasn't learned the nuances of the game yet. His best asset is his athleticism and his athleticism is almost exactly why he's so injury prone now. A team that is all in for a Super Bowl can't be that unstable at the most important position in sports. |
First off Dalton had a respectable season but I wouldn't say extremely well. They didn't beat one playoff team. Dalton didn't hurt his team with TOs. |
Andy Dalton's success this year can be attributed to throwing jump balls to AJ Green, and he still didnt come close to the level of play that MV had last year when healthy. That's throwing to freaks like Green, Simpson, and Gresham. You give Michael Vick someone half as skilled as AJ and our offense is 10x better.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| McNabb2Maclin wrote: | | nlesthought wrote: | | highboy wrote: | | I have no idea why people keep overhyping this "he finally gets a full offseason" excuse. Andy Dalton was a rookie and didn't have an offseason either. He still performed extremely well. No team had an offseason. Vick is exciting and the way he plays is exciting but he won't be any better in 2012. The guy is going to be 32 and still hasn't learned the nuances of the game yet. His best asset is his athleticism and his athleticism is almost exactly why he's so injury prone now. A team that is all in for a Super Bowl can't be that unstable at the most important position in sports. |
First off Dalton had a respectable season but I wouldn't say extremely well. They didn't beat one playoff team. Dalton didn't hurt his team with TOs. |
Andy Dalton's success this year can be attributed to throwing jump balls to AJ Green, and he still didnt come close to the level of play that MV had last year when healthy. That's throwing to freaks like Green, Simpson, and Gresham. You give Michael Vick someone half as skilled as AJ and our offense is 10x better. |
Why is that whenever a QB struggles with lack of talent, in this case Vick can't read a defense, it always ends up being lack of receiver help?
Also I am pretty sure Vick didn't beat a playoff team either. |
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short vick interview with spadaro
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It's almost that time again when I have to start hearing that tool's voice....
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| Bleedin_Green36 wrote: |
It's almost that time again when I have to start hearing that tool's voice.... |
it's so soothing. i listen to it every night before bed.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| McNabb2Maclin wrote: | | nlesthought wrote: | | highboy wrote: | | I have no idea why people keep overhyping this "he finally gets a full offseason" excuse. Andy Dalton was a rookie and didn't have an offseason either. He still performed extremely well. No team had an offseason. Vick is exciting and the way he plays is exciting but he won't be any better in 2012. The guy is going to be 32 and still hasn't learned the nuances of the game yet. His best asset is his athleticism and his athleticism is almost exactly why he's so injury prone now. A team that is all in for a Super Bowl can't be that unstable at the most important position in sports. |
First off Dalton had a respectable season but I wouldn't say extremely well. They didn't beat one playoff team. Dalton didn't hurt his team with TOs. |
Andy Dalton's success this year can be attributed to throwing jump balls to AJ Green, and he still didnt come close to the level of play that MV had last year when healthy. That's throwing to freaks like Green, Simpson, and Gresham. You give Michael Vick someone half as skilled as AJ and our offense is 10x better. |
Flat out false. Michael Vick's "stellar" season the year before consisted of about 4 games where he put up big numbers against scrubs like the Redskins and in total he won a whopping 8 games. This year it was 7. Dalton played better football this year and its not even close, not to mention actually got his team into the playoffs. He didn't have an offseason either remember? And Dalton was a ROOKIE QB, not an 8 year veteran. |
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| ianlewis16 wrote: | | Bleedin_Green36 wrote: |
It's almost that time again when I have to start hearing that tool's voice.... |
it's so soothing. i listen to it every night before bed. |
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Spadaro = Ocean sounds (with a whale and some seagulls).
Spadaro is decent, they could easily find some bigger tool.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | ianlewis16 wrote: | | Bleedin_Green36 wrote: |
It's almost that time again when I have to start hearing that tool's voice.... |
it's so soothing. i listen to it every night before bed. |
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Spadaro = Ocean sounds (with a whale and some seagulls).
Spadaro is decent, they could easily find some bigger tool. |
Yea he could be worse, I don't like him at all though. But the other choices are Marble Mouth McPherson Or Bo....I can't believe I'm here...Wolf. I'd take Bo over the others I guess...just wish the cleaned house.
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| highboy wrote: | | McNabb2Maclin wrote: | | nlesthought wrote: | | highboy wrote: | | I have no idea why people keep overhyping this "he finally gets a full offseason" excuse. Andy Dalton was a rookie and didn't have an offseason either. He still performed extremely well. No team had an offseason. Vick is exciting and the way he plays is exciting but he won't be any better in 2012. The guy is going to be 32 and still hasn't learned the nuances of the game yet. His best asset is his athleticism and his athleticism is almost exactly why he's so injury prone now. A team that is all in for a Super Bowl can't be that unstable at the most important position in sports. |
First off Dalton had a respectable season but I wouldn't say extremely well. They didn't beat one playoff team. Dalton didn't hurt his team with TOs. |
Andy Dalton's success this year can be attributed to throwing jump balls to AJ Green, and he still didnt come close to the level of play that MV had last year when healthy. That's throwing to freaks like Green, Simpson, and Gresham. You give Michael Vick someone half as skilled as AJ and our offense is 10x better. |
Flat out false. Michael Vick's "stellar" season the year before consisted of about 4 games where he put up big numbers against scrubs like the Redskins and in total he won a whopping 8 games. This year it was 7. Dalton played better football this year and its not even close, not to mention actually got his team into the playoffs. He didn't have an offseason either remember? And Dalton was a ROOKIE QB, not an 8 year veteran. |
Uhm. The Bengals had a very weak schedule and they only garnered 1 win against teams above .500. Vick is clearly better than Dalton and in the foreseeable future. And @ people who claim Vick's athleticism is his cause of injuries did you watch the games? The line allowed teams to beat him up not to mention tons of "roughing the passer" hits that weren't called. |
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highboy
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| DreDay80 wrote: | | highboy wrote: | | McNabb2Maclin wrote: | | nlesthought wrote: | | highboy wrote: | | I have no idea why people keep overhyping this "he finally gets a full offseason" excuse. Andy Dalton was a rookie and didn't have an offseason either. He still performed extremely well. No team had an offseason. Vick is exciting and the way he plays is exciting but he won't be any better in 2012. The guy is going to be 32 and still hasn't learned the nuances of the game yet. His best asset is his athleticism and his athleticism is almost exactly why he's so injury prone now. A team that is all in for a Super Bowl can't be that unstable at the most important position in sports. |
First off Dalton had a respectable season but I wouldn't say extremely well. They didn't beat one playoff team. Dalton didn't hurt his team with TOs. |
Andy Dalton's success this year can be attributed to throwing jump balls to AJ Green, and he still didnt come close to the level of play that MV had last year when healthy. That's throwing to freaks like Green, Simpson, and Gresham. You give Michael Vick someone half as skilled as AJ and our offense is 10x better. |
Flat out false. Michael Vick's "stellar" season the year before consisted of about 4 games where he put up big numbers against scrubs like the Redskins and in total he won a whopping 8 games. This year it was 7. Dalton played better football this year and its not even close, not to mention actually got his team into the playoffs. He didn't have an offseason either remember? And Dalton was a ROOKIE QB, not an 8 year veteran. |
Uhm. The Bengals had a very weak schedule and they only garnered 1 win against teams above .500. Vick is clearly better than Dalton and in the foreseeable future. And @ people who claim Vick's athleticism is his cause of injuries did you watch the games? The line allowed teams to beat him up not to mention tons of "roughing the passer" hits that weren't called. |
Um, we had just as weak a schedule and got beat by teams like the Cardinals and Seahawks. The Bengals were in the playoffs. Dalton played better, had a better season, and did so as a rookie with no offseason. Odd how you'd use the lack of preparation for a veteran QB and not a rookie QB who clearly out played him. As for Vick getting hurt, he's been doing that every year and only finished a season healthy once. Your list of excuses is void. |
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