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RollEagles
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I feel that re-signing Mathis might get us out of drafting an O-Lineman in the 1st round. Which is great because if we can sign a LB we can clearly go BPA.
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| PowerElite wrote: | | killdawabbit wrote: |
It's my belief that Cox could fill a similar role to Jenkins in the wide 9. He would rotate in when the 2nd line comes in in the same spot. I would not put him at 1 tech. |
So you suggest that the Eagles draft a reserve player at #15 to backup a productive recently signed free agent to theoretically do the same exact thing that recent free agent signing does? 
Thanks. I'm going to title my next mock "Reidundancy" in dedication to all of the Fletcher Cox fans that want him to be Cullen Jenkins' backup with the #15 pick in the NFL draft. |
I find your lack of understanding of team building disturbing young one.
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| ninjapirate wrote: | I was remembering back to the whole SAM being an elite playmaker in Juan's scheme, I could see us targeting Zack Brown to be the safety/linebacker hybrid he wants.
How in awe would the world be if we took Brown over Kuechly. |
I recall seeing the LB/S hybrid thing, but not the elite playmaker thing.
Brown would be an interesting target...in the second round. He is fast, athletic, and just a bit of a product of the defesive system/playcalling.
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| killdawabbit wrote: | | ninjapirate wrote: | I was remembering back to the whole SAM being an elite playmaker in Juan's scheme, I could see us targeting Zack Brown to be the safety/linebacker hybrid he wants.
How in awe would the world be if we took Brown over Kuechly. |
I recall seeing the LB/S hybrid thing, but not the elite playmaker thing.
Brown would be an interesting target...in the second round. He is fast, athletic, and just a bit of a product of the defesive system/playcalling. |
Agree. Fast Athletic Track star with Below average Insticts. But can cover and has great hands. I think would be an ideal fit at WLB. Although I wouldn't take him before early to mid 2nd though.
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Zach Brown as a prospect is exactly like Keith Bullock who I believe played the "playmaking" linebacker position with the Titans. I don't really like Zach, but if the Eagles are to build this defense in the way that it has seen success in the past, Zach Brown would be a good bet to replicate what Bullock did over his career with his ability in coverage and long arms that allow him to stack and shed.  Someone is going to need a cigarette after reading me mention long arms.  |
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| RollEagles wrote: | | I feel that re-signing Mathis might get us out of drafting an O-Lineman in the 1st round. Which is great because if we can sign a LB we can clearly go BPA. |
Never rule out Andy drafting an offensive lineman, you know he likes them.
I think a defensive lineman is going to be most likely. One hopes that we don't go into the draft needing a linebacker.
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| phillybul wrote: | | What about the kid from LSU Michael Brockers? |
1 tech in the Wide 9. Or a 5 tech DE in a 3-4. The eagles have 3-4 of those on the roster already. They only 1 have 3 tech and he's the wrong side of 30. I wouldn't hate it, unless Cox was still on the board.
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| PowerElite wrote: | | Zach Brown as a prospect is exactly like Keith Bullock who I believe played the "playmaking" linebacker position with the Titans. I don't really like Zach, but if the Eagles are to build this defense in the way that it has seen success in the past, Zach Brown would be a good bet to replicate what Bullock did over his career with his ability in coverage and long arms that allow him to stack and shed. Someone is going to need a cigarette after reading me mention long arms. |
Too bad I could give a catholic school girl 33" arms and she'd stack and shed about as well as Brown...
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| killdawabbit wrote: | | PowerElite wrote: | | Zach Brown as a prospect is exactly like Keith Bullock who I believe played the "playmaking" linebacker position with the Titans. I don't really like Zach, but if the Eagles are to build this defense in the way that it has seen success in the past, Zach Brown would be a good bet to replicate what Bullock did over his career with his ability in coverage and long arms that allow him to stack and shed. Someone is going to need a cigarette after reading me mention long arms. |
Too bad I could give a catholic school girl 33" arms and she'd stack and shed about as well as Brown... |
Most likely better.
Brown is in the Bradham category of block shedding.
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phillybul
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| marky_b27 wrote: | | RollEagles wrote: | | I feel that re-signing Mathis might get us out of drafting an O-Lineman in the 1st round. Which is great because if we can sign a LB we can clearly go BPA. |
Never rule out Andy drafting an offensive lineman, you know he likes them.
I think a defensive lineman is going to be most likely. One hopes that we don't go into the draft needing a linebacker. |
Why not? Peters-Mathis-Kelce-Watkins-Herremans. Unit is secured, a draft pick at OT would be a backup. A OG would probably mean taking Watkins spot (now u have to explain why u took him last draft) or Kelce at Center (whom Mudd loves). I'd be shocked if they went OL first rd.
Has to be defense. Unsure position, but I'd prefer DT or LB |
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| phillybul wrote: | | marky_b27 wrote: | | RollEagles wrote: | | I feel that re-signing Mathis might get us out of drafting an O-Lineman in the 1st round. Which is great because if we can sign a LB we can clearly go BPA. |
Never rule out Andy drafting an offensive lineman, you know he likes them.
I think a defensive lineman is going to be most likely. One hopes that we don't go into the draft needing a linebacker. |
Why not? Peters-Mathis-Kelce-Watkins-Herremans. Unit is secured, a draft pick at OT would be a backup. A OG would probably mean taking Watkins spot (now u have to explain why u took him last draft) or Kelce at Center (whom Mudd loves). I'd be shocked if they went OL first rd.
Has to be defense. Unsure position, but I'd prefer DT or LB |
If someone like Reiff fell, it could be him.
If Konz fell to one of our second round picks, we could pick him. Not convinced of Kelce personally.
However, most likely we'll go after a McCants/Potter/Mosley in the middle rounds.
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bkb77
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| marky_b27 wrote: | | killdawabbit wrote: | | PowerElite wrote: | | Zach Brown as a prospect is exactly like Keith Bullock who I believe played the "playmaking" linebacker position with the Titans. I don't really like Zach, but if the Eagles are to build this defense in the way that it has seen success in the past, Zach Brown would be a good bet to replicate what Bullock did over his career with his ability in coverage and long arms that allow him to stack and shed. Someone is going to need a cigarette after reading me mention long arms. |
Too bad I could give a catholic school girl 33" arms and she'd stack and shed about as well as Brown... |
Most likely better.
Brown is in the Bradham category of block shedding. |
Ya They both are in the same boat, can't shed a block if their lives depended on it. Both would be WLB in this D not a SAM considering the SLB in this be has to take on Blocks alot of the time, While the WLB is out in open space to just be athletic and make plays.
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phillybul
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| marky_b27 wrote: | | phillybul wrote: | | marky_b27 wrote: | | RollEagles wrote: | | I feel that re-signing Mathis might get us out of drafting an O-Lineman in the 1st round. Which is great because if we can sign a LB we can clearly go BPA. |
Never rule out Andy drafting an offensive lineman, you know he likes them.
I think a defensive lineman is going to be most likely. One hopes that we don't go into the draft needing a linebacker. |
Why not? Peters-Mathis-Kelce-Watkins-Herremans. Unit is secured, a draft pick at OT would be a backup. A OG would probably mean taking Watkins spot (now u have to explain why u took him last draft) or Kelce at Center (whom Mudd loves). I'd be shocked if they went OL first rd.
Has to be defense. Unsure position, but I'd prefer DT or LB |
If someone like Reiff fell, it could be him.
If Konz fell to one of our second round picks, we could pick him. Not convinced of Kelce personally.
However, most likely we'll go after a McCants/Potter/Mosley in the middle rounds. |
Ahhhh gotcha, I see where you're coming from. |
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babyatemydingo
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| marky_b27 wrote: | | phillybul wrote: | | marky_b27 wrote: | | RollEagles wrote: | | I feel that re-signing Mathis might get us out of drafting an O-Lineman in the 1st round. Which is great because if we can sign a LB we can clearly go BPA. |
Never rule out Andy drafting an offensive lineman, you know he likes them.
I think a defensive lineman is going to be most likely. One hopes that we don't go into the draft needing a linebacker. |
Why not? Peters-Mathis-Kelce-Watkins-Herremans. Unit is secured, a draft pick at OT would be a backup. A OG would probably mean taking Watkins spot (now u have to explain why u took him last draft) or Kelce at Center (whom Mudd loves). I'd be shocked if they went OL first rd.
Has to be defense. Unsure position, but I'd prefer DT or LB |
If someone like Reiff fell, it could be him.
If Konz fell to one of our second round picks, we could pick him. Not convinced of Kelce personally.
However, most likely we'll go after a McCants/Potter/Mosley in the middle rounds. |
Highly unlikely Riley falls.
DeCastro could and I expect Martin to be there.
That could mean a trade down.
Someone (SD) could opt to trade up for Floyd, too, if he's there and the Eagles are not interested.
Glad to see you are on board with Mosley. |
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