Some random thoughts a few weeks before draft

Euphemism

I see very little value in taking a defensive end at #19 overall with this draft class. It may be the most important need, but the players that are going to be available at #19 are simply not worth it.

Nick Perry is an athletic dynamo, but leaves a lot to be desired. He actually reminds me a lot of Gaines Adams.

I've watched quite a bit of Mercilus as well and do not feel his value is in the top-20 of any draft.

This corner class is extremely strong. Gilmore and Janoris Jenkins are both incredibly skilled. I would roll the dice on one of these two rather than reaching on an end.

I think Jenkins & Gilmore are two of the most undervalued players in the draft right now. And a lot of that can be traced to some disturbing character concerns, but on the field at least you know you aren't likely to miss.

Michael Floyd is likely a pipe dream at this point. Bummer.

And the tackles like Jonathan Martin are very flawed in their own right.

A prospect that is really gaining steam is OG Amini Silatolu who I would love to nab in the second round. 6'4" 315 and very tenacious. I think he's an instant starter on which ever team takes him.

I also like Brandon Washington after Round 2 as a great developmental guard. He's raw, but at 320 lbs and his athleticism seems like a perfect guard for Tice to mold.

Euphemism · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:50 pm Post subject:

Adding to Silatolu - He has a lot of Mike Iupati to him. Silatolu played LT in college and probably doesn't have the toes to play LT in the NFL, but at worst case you have a starting guard who can swing to RT and handle his own.

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Perry has much better bulk, strength and has a better motor then Adams. Adams was more explosive though. Adams busting doesnt mean Perry will. Perry is definitely worth our 1st round pick.

Euphemism · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject:

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madmike44 · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject:

I agree that the corners in the first round are better for their position than the DE's are. However with us, if we keep playing cover-2 we don't really need a 1st round CB (although it's always nice to have one). Having said that, I'd probably take a CB over a DE. Who knows how much cover-2 we'll continue to play and who knows how long Lovie will be here. If we have a bad year next year he may be gone.

I'd still prefer a WR in the first though. But I wouldn't be mad with a CB either.

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BEARS24 · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:23 pm Post subject:

What if a DT were to fall to us?

Worth it to get a constantly fresh rotation, or just a luxury?
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Looking through some draft historues of Phil Emery with Atlanta and Kansas City where he was the director of scouting has thrown a few pretty common trends out at me.

The first is that he loves to draft WR's, DT's and CB's early on in the draft, specifically in the first two rounds. This changed his first couple of years in KC, but the second of that is more likely to be Pioli's doing (Jackson pick)

If you look from 2004-2007 drafts at the Falcons took the following players in the first two rounds;

DeAngelo Hall - 1st - CB - Virginia Tech
Michael Jenkins - 1st - WR - Ohio State
Roddy White - 1st - WR - UAB
Jonathan Babineaux - 2nd - DT - Iowa
Jimmy F. Williams - 2nd - CB - Virginia Tech
Jamaal Anderson - 1st - DE - Arkansas
Justin Blalock - 2nd - OG - Texas
Chris Houston - 2nd - CB - Arkansas

And then from 2008-2011 at KC.

Glenn Dorsey - DT - 1st - LSU
Brandon Albert - OT - 1st - Virginia
Brandon Flowers - CB - 2nd - Virginia Tech
Tyson Jackson - DE/DT - 1st - LSU
Eric Berry - S - 1st - Tennessee
Dexter McCluster - RB/WR - 2nd - Ole Miss
Javier Arenas - CB - 2nd - Alabama
Jonathan Baldwin - WR - 1st - Pittsburgh
Rodney Hudson - OG - 2nd - Florida State

Eight of his Seventeen first and second round picks have been WR's or CB's. Three more were DT's, three more were on the offensive line.

McCluster, Berry and Anderson are the exceptions to CB/WR/OL/DT.

Second is that he love to stay east, the ACC and SEC and favorites and the Big East, Big 10 and Big 12 are next.

Third, he love Virginia Tech corners, three drafted in the first two rounds. Expect Jayron Hosley on the Bears in 2012.

He tends to like size/speed receivers, Baldwin, White, and Jenkins are all bigger in frame, Jenkins and Baldwin are both 6-4 and White at 6-1 is the smallest, but was very thick at 207-212 depending on where you look.

Stephen Hill and Rueben Randle both fit the bigger receiver and ACC/SEC trends as well as taking an early round WR.

As of right now I think Hill/Hosley are going to be the first.second round pick combo for the Bears.
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madmike44 · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:26 pm Post subject:

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