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redsoxsuck05
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 Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:59 pm Post subject: 2012 NHL Entry Draft |
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Will post Bob Mackenzie's top 30 when they come out. Only his opinion carries weight for me.
My top 5:
1) Nail Yakupov
2) Mikhail Grigorenko
3) Ryan Murray
4) Alex Galchenyuk
5) Mathew Dumba
I adore Yakupov's game. He has an outstanding combination of speed and hands and most importantly goes to the net with reckless abandon. Also plays a physical game that brings forth some injury concerns
I believe Grigorenko will be available at #4, and I REALLY want him. He oozes all around talent and has excellent size. Anti-Russian bullcrap has injury/mononucleosis confused with stereotypical Russian heartless-ness and bad work ethic.
Ryan Murray has been a victim of the NHL-ready label in the minds of some. Being ready for the NHL does not equal low upside, people! His game has been picked apart akin to Cam Fowler in his draft year although Murray is more of a defense-first guy.
Alex Galchenyuk is the wild card. At first people thought he was more of a beneficiary to playing on Yakupov's line, but even after a lost season due to injuries many have fallen in love with his talent. After all he was the #1 selection in the OHL Entry Draft IIRC. Very risky pick because of aforementioned injuries, but it can pay big dividends.
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mgoblue44
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'll post my mock later tonight. Cant wait for Friday
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Eagles27
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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1. Yakupov
2. Murray
3. Galchenyuk
4. Grigorenko
5. Forsberg
That's my top 5. Though I'm more interested in the potential for big trades, than the draft this year.
Should be an exciting day for Hockey fans.
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mm6492
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Eagles27 wrote: | 1. Yakupov
2. Murray
3. Galchenyuk
4. Grigorenko
5. Forsberg
That's my top 5. Though I'm more interested in the potential for big trades, than the draft this year.
Should be an exciting day for Hockey fans. |
Yea. Rick Nash, Wber, luongo, Schneider, Jordan Staal, and others all being thrown into the rumor mill.
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eggybucsfan31
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:44 am Post subject: |
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My mock:
1. Edmonton - Nail Yakupov RW (Sarnia, OHL)
2. Columbus - Filip Forsberg C (Leksand, SWE)
3. Montreal - Alex Galchenyuk C (Sarnia, OHL)
4. New York I. - Ryan Murray D (Everett, WHL)
5. Toronto - Griffin Reinhart D (Edmonton, WHL)
6. Anaheim - Teuvo Teravainen RW (Jokerit, FIN)
7. Minnesota - Matt Dumba D (Red Deer, WHL)
8. Carolina - Radek Faksa C (Kitchener, OHL)
9. Winnipeg - Jacob Trouba D (US U-18 )
10. Tampa Bay - Morgan Rielly D (Moose Jaw, WHL)
11. Washington - Cody Ceci D (Ottawa, OHL)
12. Buffalo - Mikhail Grigorenko C (Quebec, QMJHL)
13. Dallas - Brandon Gaunce C (Belleville, OHL)
14. Calgary - Olli Maatta D (London, OHL)
15. Ottawa - Hampus Lindholm D (Rogle, SWE)
16. Washington - Zemgus Girgensons C (Dubuque, USHL)
17. San Jose - Slater Koekkoek D (Peterborough, OHL)
18. Chicago - Sebastian Collberg RW (Frolunda, SWE)
19. Tampa Bay - Pontus Aberg LW (Djurgardens, SWE)
20. Philadelphia - Brady Skjel D (US U-18 )
21. Buffalo - Matt Finn D (Guelph, OHL)
22. Pittsburgh - Martin Frk RW (Halifax, QMJHL)
23. Florida - Dalton Thrower D (Saskatoon, WHL)
24. Boston - Tom Wilson RW (Plymouth, OHL)
25. St. Louis - Stefan Matteau LW (US U-18 )
26. Vancouver - Henrik Samuelsson RW (Edmonton, WHL)
27. Phoenix - Scott Laughton C (Oshawa, OHL)
28. New York R. - Phillip Di Giuseppe LW (Michigan, CCHA)
29. New Jersey - Malcolm Subban G (Belleville, OHL)
30. Los Angeles - Colton Sissons RW (Kelowna, WHL)
JR has all but said he plans to acquire a top flight forward, so don't be shocked to see #8 overall packaged to get someone along the lines of Jordan Staal or Rick Nash. (I doubt we get either, but we've been rumored to be after both).
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EaglesFan5-36-81
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:02 am Post subject: |
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I'm hoping for Dalton Thrower, Slater Koekkoek, or Matt Finn for the Flyers.
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Goon
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Sweet pick for Ottawa...Kuba is all but gone and Gonchar is entering his last season as a Sen and possibly as a NHL-er as well.
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steelcurtain29
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| eggybucsfan31 wrote: | My mock:
1. Edmonton - Nail Yakupov RW (Sarnia, OHL)
2. Columbus - Filip Forsberg C (Leksand, SWE)
3. Montreal - Alex Galchenyuk C (Sarnia, OHL)
4. New York I. - Ryan Murray D (Everett, WHL)
5. Toronto - Griffin Reinhart D (Edmonton, WHL)
6. Anaheim - Teuvo Teravainen RW (Jokerit, FIN)
7. Minnesota - Matt Dumba D (Red Deer, WHL)
8. Carolina - Radek Faksa C (Kitchener, OHL)
9. Winnipeg - Jacob Trouba D (US U-18 )
10. Tampa Bay - Morgan Rielly D (Moose Jaw, WHL)
11. Washington - Cody Ceci D (Ottawa, OHL)
12. Buffalo - Mikhail Grigorenko C (Quebec, QMJHL)
13. Dallas - Brandon Gaunce C (Belleville, OHL)
14. Calgary - Olli Maatta D (London, OHL)
15. Ottawa - Hampus Lindholm D (Rogle, SWE)
16. Washington - Zemgus Girgensons C (Dubuque, USHL)
17. San Jose - Slater Koekkoek D (Peterborough, OHL)
18. Chicago - Sebastian Collberg RW (Frolunda, SWE)
19. Tampa Bay - Pontus Aberg LW (Djurgardens, SWE)
20. Philadelphia - Brady Skjel D (US U-18 )
21. Buffalo - Matt Finn D (Guelph, OHL)
22. Pittsburgh - Martin Frk RW (Halifax, QMJHL)
23. Florida - Dalton Thrower D (Saskatoon, WHL)
24. Boston - Tom Wilson RW (Plymouth, OHL)
25. St. Louis - Stefan Matteau LW (US U-18 )
26. Vancouver - Henrik Samuelsson RW (Edmonton, WHL)
27. Phoenix - Scott Laughton C (Oshawa, OHL)
28. New York R. - Phillip Di Giuseppe LW (Michigan, CCHA)
29. New Jersey - Malcolm Subban G (Belleville, OHL)
30. Los Angeles - Colton Sissons RW (Kelowna, WHL)
JR has all but said he plans to acquire a top flight forward, so don't be shocked to see #8 overall packaged to get someone along the lines of Jordan Staal or Rick Nash. (I doubt we get either, but we've been rumored to be after both). |
Grigorenko is the #2 prospect, easily. How does he fall to #12? 
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redsoxsuck05
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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| steelcurtain29 wrote: | | eggybucsfan31 wrote: | My mock:
1. Edmonton - Nail Yakupov RW (Sarnia, OHL)
2. Columbus - Filip Forsberg C (Leksand, SWE)
3. Montreal - Alex Galchenyuk C (Sarnia, OHL)
4. New York I. - Ryan Murray D (Everett, WHL)
5. Toronto - Griffin Reinhart D (Edmonton, WHL)
6. Anaheim - Teuvo Teravainen RW (Jokerit, FIN)
7. Minnesota - Matt Dumba D (Red Deer, WHL)
8. Carolina - Radek Faksa C (Kitchener, OHL)
9. Winnipeg - Jacob Trouba D (US U-18 )
10. Tampa Bay - Morgan Rielly D (Moose Jaw, WHL)
11. Washington - Cody Ceci D (Ottawa, OHL)
12. Buffalo - Mikhail Grigorenko C (Quebec, QMJHL)
13. Dallas - Brandon Gaunce C (Belleville, OHL)
14. Calgary - Olli Maatta D (London, OHL)
15. Ottawa - Hampus Lindholm D (Rogle, SWE)
16. Washington - Zemgus Girgensons C (Dubuque, USHL)
17. San Jose - Slater Koekkoek D (Peterborough, OHL)
18. Chicago - Sebastian Collberg RW (Frolunda, SWE)
19. Tampa Bay - Pontus Aberg LW (Djurgardens, SWE)
20. Philadelphia - Brady Skjel D (US U-18 )
21. Buffalo - Matt Finn D (Guelph, OHL)
22. Pittsburgh - Martin Frk RW (Halifax, QMJHL)
23. Florida - Dalton Thrower D (Saskatoon, WHL)
24. Boston - Tom Wilson RW (Plymouth, OHL)
25. St. Louis - Stefan Matteau LW (US U-18 )
26. Vancouver - Henrik Samuelsson RW (Edmonton, WHL)
27. Phoenix - Scott Laughton C (Oshawa, OHL)
28. New York R. - Phillip Di Giuseppe LW (Michigan, CCHA)
29. New Jersey - Malcolm Subban G (Belleville, OHL)
30. Los Angeles - Colton Sissons RW (Kelowna, WHL)
JR has all but said he plans to acquire a top flight forward, so don't be shocked to see #8 overall packaged to get someone along the lines of Jordan Staal or Rick Nash. (I doubt we get either, but we've been rumored to be after both). |
Grigorenko is the #2 prospect, easily. How does he fall to #12? |
Don't even get me STARTED! 
 Anyway, Grigs injured his ankle right around midseason and was less effective for the rest of the year including the playoffs. Sometime during that stretch he had also contracted mono (Couture and Couturier dropped for that same reason). Then all of a sudden, some scouts started saying he had a low compete level and bad work ethic. Based on what we ask?
And since then we haven't gotten an answer besides him playing worse to end the season. So feeble fans take that as gospel not because of legitimate reasons but because he's a Russian. And as we all know, Russian players are lazy and heartless so it all makes sense doesn't it? Oh an they're scouts so their baseless narrative is infallible.
A lot of you guys are baseball fans, so you may be familiar with the whole "talented but lazy" stereotype (Latin American equivalent).
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Dr. Philly
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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I have a feeling that Philadelphia won't hold onto their first round pick.
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steelcurtain29
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So basically, Grigorenko is going to fall to #8, where Pittsburgh, after trading Staal for #8 plus more goodies, can snatch up the #2 prospect in the draft?
Nice... 
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mgoblue44
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Heres my Mock (subject to change):
Edmonton – Nail Yakupov, RW, Sarnia Sting (OHL)
Columbus – Filip Forsberg, C/RW, Leksand (SWE)
Montreal – Teuvo Teravainen, LW, Jokerit (FIN)
NY Islanders – Griffin Reinhart, D, Edmonton Oil Kings (OHL)
Toronto – Alex Galchenyuk, C, Sarnia Sting (OHL)
Anaheim – Ryan Murray, D, Everett Silvertips (WHL)
Minnesota – Mathew Dumba, D, Red Deer Rebels (WHL)
Carolina – Radek Faska, C, Kitchener Rangers (OHL)
Winnipeg – Morgan Reilly, D, Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL)
Tampa Bay – Jacob Trouba, D, USNTDP (USHL)
Washington – Olli Maatta, D, London Knights (OHL)
Buffalo – Zemgus Girgensons, C, Dubuque (USHL)
Dallas – Mikhail Grigorenko, C, Quebec Rampart (QMJHL)
Calgary – Cody Ceci, D, Ottawa 67’s (OHL)
Ottawa – Thomas Wilson, RW, Plymouth Whalers (OHL)
Washington – Sebastien Collberg, RW, Frolunda (SWE)
San Jose – Hampus Lindholm, D, Rogle Jr. (SWE)
Chicago – Derrick Pouliot, D, Portland Winterhawks (WHL)
Tampa Bay – Brendan Gaunce, C, Belleville Bulls (OHL)
Philadelphia – Slater Koekkoek, D, Peterborough Petes (OHL)
Buffalo – Malcolm Subban, G, Belleville Bulls (OHL)
Pittsburgh – Tomas Herti, C, Slavia Praha (CZE)
Florida – Andrei Vasilevski, G, Ufa Tolpar Jr. (RUS)
Boston – Tanner Pearson, LW, Barrie Colts (OHL)
St. Louis – Matthew Finn, D, Guelph Storm (OHL)
Vancouver – Brady Skeji, D, USNTDP (USHL)
Phoenix – Stefan Matteau, C, USNTDP (USHL)
NY Rangers – Phillip Di Giuseppe, LW, University of Michigan (CCHA)
New Jersey – Martin Frk, RW, Halifax Moose Heads (QMJHL)
Los Angeles – Scott Laughton, C, Oshawa Generals (OHL)
Ask about any Prospects
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Eagles27
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| steelcurtain29 wrote: | So basically, Grigorenko is going to fall to #8, where Pittsburgh, after trading Staal for #8 plus more goodies, can snatch up the #2 prospect in the draft?
Nice... |
According to TSN's mock, he's falling to 17.
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Brian23
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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If Grigs is at 11, there is no way Washington doesn't take him.
Than D at 16. Or we flip it around for a solid D at 11 and hopefully Gaunce at 16. |
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redsoxsuck05
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| mgoblue44 wrote: | Heres my Mock (subject to change):
Edmonton – Nail Yakupov, RW, Sarnia Sting (OHL)
Columbus – Filip Forsberg, C/RW, Leksand (SWE)
Montreal – Teuvo Teravainen, LW, Jokerit (FIN)
NY Islanders – Griffin Reinhart, D, Edmonton Oil Kings (OHL)
Toronto – Alex Galchenyuk, C, Sarnia Sting (OHL)
Anaheim – Ryan Murray, D, Everett Silvertips (WHL)
Minnesota – Mathew Dumba, D, Red Deer Rebels (WHL)
Carolina – Radek Faska, C, Kitchener Rangers (OHL)
Winnipeg – Morgan Reilly, D, Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL)
Tampa Bay – Jacob Trouba, D, USNTDP (USHL)
Washington – Olli Maatta, D, London Knights (OHL)
Buffalo – Zemgus Girgensons, C, Dubuque (USHL)
Dallas – Mikhail Grigorenko, C, Quebec Rampart (QMJHL)
Calgary – Cody Ceci, D, Ottawa 67’s (OHL)
Ottawa – Thomas Wilson, RW, Plymouth Whalers (OHL)
Washington – Sebastien Collberg, RW, Frolunda (SWE)
San Jose – Hampus Lindholm, D, Rogle Jr. (SWE)
Chicago – Derrick Pouliot, D, Portland Winterhawks (WHL)
Tampa Bay – Brendan Gaunce, C, Belleville Bulls (OHL)
Philadelphia – Slater Koekkoek, D, Peterborough Petes (OHL)
Buffalo – Malcolm Subban, G, Belleville Bulls (OHL)
Pittsburgh – Tomas Herti, C, Slavia Praha (CZE)
Florida – Andrei Vasilevski, G, Ufa Tolpar Jr. (RUS)
Boston – Tanner Pearson, LW, Barrie Colts (OHL)
St. Louis – Matthew Finn, D, Guelph Storm (OHL)
Vancouver – Brady Skeji, D, USNTDP (USHL)
Phoenix – Stefan Matteau, C, USNTDP (USHL)
NY Rangers – Phillip Di Giuseppe, LW, University of Michigan (CCHA)
New Jersey – Martin Frk, RW, Halifax Moose Heads (QMJHL)
Los Angeles – Scott Laughton, C, Oshawa Generals (OHL)
Ask about any Prospects |
Disagree with 2-3-4. Especially Teravainen to the Habs.
Good for the Leafs though. 
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