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NCOUGHMAN
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| nbaker1933 wrote: | | Maybe his injury is what caused him to be tentative and tackle poorly. |
imo he did the same in college
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dmac505
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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i think him not using his injury as an excuse speaks to his character as a football player.
he holds himself to high standards... he has not met those standards, and seems disappointed in himself.
When you are disappointed in yourself, you generally tend to work harder to achieve your goals.
By not using his injury as an excuse, he is gaining motivation to train even harder.
If he just blammed everything on his injury then he would be Russel 2.0 (well russell never blammed injury, but he always had a reason)
I love it, when a player mans up and takes responsibility.
if he hasnt been fully healthy, and is now putting in more work.. i see no reason why it is illogical to assume he wont improve.
this is all speculation as i obviously do not know rolando... but i will say the evidence is there
- looks slimmer
- sounds motivated to improve / wants to be the best
- not making excuses for himself
id say hes on the right track
and once again, i will bring up the fact he has only played 2 seasons...
DMC and BEY both had a rough first 2 years, but improved.
it is reasonable to think that a guy who played in a 3-4 in college, needs tiem to adjust to a 4-3 in the NFL
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DOCLEW 28
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | | DOCLEW 28 wrote: |
To have the number of tackles the kid had on a balky knee is impressive no matter what you want to think about it. It's becoming obvious that you were never any king of quality athlete or coached quality athletes. If you were, you were probably one of those guys that we said tells "lies on his uniform". But its all good.
If you want to be "that" fan, so be it. Whatever floats your boat. If you want to just look at the surface and make ignorant comments like that without seeing that the kid is taking all the steps to improve himself medically and on the field, go for it. I just shake my head. But mostly scroll through your crap because I'm sure that we have all seen and heard it before. The guy who talks to get a rise but makes himself sound silly.
As a former athlete it bugs me. As a coach it bothers me too. But whatever dude. 
And that crap about "oh he was picked 8th so he disappoints me." is a bunch of BS. Whether he was taken first overall or in the 5th round doesn't matter one bit as long as he is a member of this team and a starter. That "draftnick" like of thinking always cracks me up. |
LOL "tackles" are an important stat too, right? Not even gonna bother w/ the rest of this tripe. Sorry man. Keep saying I'm stupid and making ignorant comments all you want. Your agenda is the funniest thing here. |
Yes they are funny guy. And McClain had 99 of them on a gimpy knee and a bad ankle. And now the kid is taking steps to remedy both injuries. So what is your point exactly? Even if the kid hasn't turned into a superstar in two years, those numbers aren't anything to sniff at.
Sean Weatherspoon 115
Koa Misi 34
Daryl Washington 107
Sean Lee 105
Brandon Spikes 47
Those are some of the top linebackers in his draft class. And on a bad wheel McClain was right there with them. So what if he was drafted higher. He is a starter just like they are and he is producing. Not at "superstar" level, whatever that is. But the kid is learning and making plays at the same time.
So what is your point exactly?
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JTagg7754
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Yep a tackle 4 yards pass the LoS is a determining factor in a player's worth and shows he has complete control over whiffing and gap discipline. I see it now.
Thanks!
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| NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | Quote: |
you wouldnt want Rodgers Brady or Manning in his prime as your QBs? |
not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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DOCLEW 28
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Silver&Black88 wrote: | | NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | Rolo was never really explosive imo and he has always tackled high with or without injury. i hope he can fix it soon. |
+1. I get he has stuff to deal with that other players don't. But at the same time, that doesn't excuse his flaws with things most players are fine with. I'm talking tackling and gap discipline. I know I bring it up with him all the time, but they are so fundamental and crucial to MLB play and I probably won't stop til he fixes them. He seems like a good worker and generally smart so hopefully with our new defensive coaches, he makes the strides he needs to make. |
If Tarver can't fix it no one can.
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DOCLEW 28
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | Yep a tackle 4 yards pass the LoS is a determining factor in a player's worth and shows he has complete control over whiffing and gap discipline. I see it now.
Thanks! |
Can you form a readable sentence and maybe we can get to your point. Read that again and tell us what you really meant to say. Am I to understand that you think all of Ro's tackles were 4 yards downfield? You do know that most tackles aren't made behind the LOS? Especially when most middle linebackers line up three yards off the ball. So you wanna come with some actual facts about where he is making these tackles? Or do you wanna just continue with your lame jokes and know-it-all crap that has no substance.
Just wondering.
Or I can just go back to scrolling past your BS. Just let me know. 
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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He hasn't played as well as we have hoped and he made a bonehead move off the field. But the guy just got stem cell therapy, so I'm not ready to write him off.
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JTagg7754
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| DOCLEW 28 wrote: | | Or I can just go back to scrolling past your BS. Just let me know. |
If you think tackles are a meaningful stat and a good way to gauge a player's worth, I suggest you go this route. I hope you were capable of reading this sentence since I apparently have trouble constructing them.... at least according to you.
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| NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | Quote: |
you wouldnt want Rodgers Brady or Manning in his prime as your QBs? |
not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| The Defense looked like it was better when Ro was in than not. He's young and good enough for now. No need to replace him as there are bigger holes than MLB. If we get a late LB pick and he beats him outright then we can talk about getting rid of him, but until then I won't look for his replacement until 1 year left on contract if he doesn't sign at what he's worth... |
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Silver&Black88
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| G wrote: | | The Defense looked like it was better when Ro was in than not. He's young and good enough for now. No need to replace him as there are bigger holes than MLB. If we get a late LB pick and he beats him outright then we can talk about getting rid of him, but until then I won't look for his replacement until 1 year left on contract if he doesn't sign at what he's worth... |
Hard to be worse than Blackstock.
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DOCLEW 28
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | | DOCLEW 28 wrote: | | Or I can just go back to scrolling past your BS. Just let me know. |
If you think tackles are a meaningful stat and a good way to gauge a player's worth, I suggest you go this route. I hope you were capable of reading this sentence since I apparently have trouble constructing them.... at least according to you. |
Awww, did someone snap their last purple crayon?
So in your mind tackles mean nothing? Quite obviously you were not a defensive player in an earlier life. So let me ask you, what is a meaningful stat to a middle linebacker? You just want him to "fill his gap" and do nothing once the ball carrier gets there??? If you can't make the tackles, then what the hell are you doing out there in the first place???
You sure made your point. Whatever it was. 
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JTagg7754
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:18 am Post subject: |
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| DOCLEW 28 wrote: | Awww, did someone snap their last purple crayon?
So in your mind tackles mean nothing? Quite obviously you were not a defensive player in an earlier life. So let me ask you, what is a meaningful stat to a middle linebacker? You just want him to "fill his gap" and do nothing once the ball carrier gets there??? If you can't make the tackles, then what the hell are you doing out there in the first place???
You sure made your point. Whatever it was. |
You apparently cannot retain information. I have given an example for why tackles are not a meaningful stat. Please go back and check again. I would hope I don't need to continue to repeat myself to an "adult".
Yes, I did play defense by the way. Failed....... again.
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| NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | Quote: |
you wouldnt want Rodgers Brady or Manning in his prime as your QBs? |
not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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Dessie
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I did play defense by the way........ |
I am gonna guess it wasn't as a safety.........?
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In my opinion they are a joke. In the last ten years there drafts sucked. |
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JTagg7754
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Dessie wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: |
Yes, I did play defense by the way........ |
I am gonna guess it wasn't as a safety.........? |
Good for you. Thanks for the worthless post. Keep that agenda going strong!!
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| NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | Quote: |
you wouldnt want Rodgers Brady or Manning in his prime as your QBs? |
not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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Dessie
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | | Dessie wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: |
Yes, I did play defense by the way........ |
I am gonna guess it wasn't as a safety.........? |
Good for you. Thanks for the worthless post. Keep that agenda going strong!! |
I was right it appears 
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| bitty wrote: | I don't understand why everybody thinks Green Bay is the pinnacle of NFL franchises?
In my opinion they are a joke. In the last ten years there drafts sucked. |
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