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Ronald323
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 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject: Shea McClellin |
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this guy has been showing up in every mock draft. im not sure if this guy is a 1st round pick or 2nd. i have a funny feeling this guy will be the pick if he is their at 28th.
what do u guys think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcrfQEfdOK8
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ajhawk5047
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Shea McClellin |
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| Ronald323 wrote: | this guy has been showing up in every mock draft. im not sure if this guy is a 1st round pick or 2nd. i have a funny feeling this guy will be the pick if he is their at 28th.
what do u guys think? |
I could see it, depending on who's already been drafted. I wouldn't be upset if he were the pick.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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We have a whole thread for this type of stuff where we have been talking about McClellin called 2012 Prospect Watch. This really didn't need its own thread.
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Honestly he is probably an early-mid 2nd round value, but he just fits so well with what we do and will almost certainly be gone before our 2nd, so if we want him, we need to get him in the 1st.
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wgbeethree
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Shea McClellin |
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| Ronald323 wrote: | this guy has been showing up in every mock draft. im not sure if this guy is a 1st round pick or 2nd. i have a funny feeling this guy will be the pick if he is their at 28th.
what do u guys think? |
It seems like every year there is a guy or two that the board falls in love with and ends up in just about every mock. There was Zoltan Mesko, then it was Brooks Reed and Casey Matthews, and this year it's been Mike Martin and Shea McClellin. If only there was an easily noticable common denominator between them to explain why those guys are so popular.
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No way they can start the draft without the annual "Dexter McCluster type running back crush that can vault the Packers into a dynasty never to be matched" craze hits.
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PackMan22
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Shea McClellin |
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| wgbeethree wrote: | | Ronald323 wrote: | this guy has been showing up in every mock draft. im not sure if this guy is a 1st round pick or 2nd. i have a funny feeling this guy will be the pick if he is their at 28th.
what do u guys think? |
It seems like every year there is a guy or two that the board falls in love with and ends up in just about every mock. There was Zoltan Mesko, then it was Brooks Reed and Casey Matthews, and this year it's been Mike Martin and Shea McClellin. If only there was an easily noticable common denominator between them to explain why those guys are so popular. |
McClellin has been in all my mocks since the Super Bowl (mainly because he is from BSU). And I have gotten heat for it almost every time. It seems like since maybe his pro day, late march, he has started to pick up some traction on the boards here, but not from the beginning. I would put Derek Wilfe or Akiem Hicks in that spot, they seem to be in every other mock. Also, before the combine it was Fletcher Cox.
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| I Am Rodgers wrote: | | We have a whole thread for this type of stuff where we have been talking about McClellin called 2012 Prospect Watch. This really didn't need its own thread. |
There's no need for that. Let the mods do their jobs.
Anyways, we won't get this kid at #28. If we trade down between #34-38 I could see it being feasible, but I hope not in the first. Value isn't there.
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This was posted by one of my fellow draft nerds / McClellin skeptics. While I don't echo all of this, I think it is a good and accurate breakdown of some of the concerns that come along with Shea.
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It doesn't bother you at all that McClellin gets the majority of his sacks completely unblocked??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcrfQEfdOK8&t=0m24s
Watch the highlighted play and then look at the diagram below. It's the 0:25 mark if the timer isn't working for you. 0:56, 1:22, and 1:40 would also work.
1. There isn't a Center on an NFL team that's going to completely miss the stunter. The stunter probably won't even get to him.
2. An NFL QB isn't going to panic and miss the scat protection/hot read.
3. An NFL Tackle is going to keep sinking when he sees the DE slash inside. He'll know the dragger is coming through and he doesn't want to get picked.
4. An NFL Guard is going to let the dragger go because he knows the Tackle will be in proper position. He'll pick up the stunter in most cases.
This crap doesn't work in the NFL. |
Take that for what it's worth. It's definitely an interesting take.
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I know you don't like the kid, but pointing out that he got a sack on a missed block is bizarre. That happens a lot. It's hardly Shea's fault that the lineman made a mistake. It's like saying a corner isn't good because he got an interception on a bad pass.
Also, in the video, I thought some of the better plays Shea makes are against Georgia, so level of comp cant be the issue there.
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It's mainly food for thought. It was relevant so I quoted and posted. It's not all about a missed block if you read all he is talking about there. Not necessarily saying I agree with all being said, as I have different questions regarding Shea, I just thought it was an interesting take.
Couldn't help but notice Zombo is your "Adopt-a-Packer". Ironic since I think he and McClellin are very similar players. Shea obviously a good bit better and healthier though. 
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Ronald323
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| i really think tt is in love with this guy in also kevin green because he has a non stop motor |
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PackMan22
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| RiotPunch wrote: | It's mainly food for thought. It was relevant so I quoted and posted. It's not all about a missed block if you read all he is talking about there. Not necessarily saying I agree with all being said, as I have different questions regarding Shea, I just thought it was an interesting take.
Couldn't help but notice Zombo is your "Adopt-a-Packer". Ironic since I think he and McClellin are very similar players. Shea obviously a good bit better and healthier though. |
I never thought about the Zombo-Shea comparison. I like them both but for different reasons. Just rooted for Zombo because of his name when we signed him, and Im a BSU homer so I can't help but like them.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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I don't dislike the kid but I don't think he should be a first round pick. He should go in the 2nd at the highest.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| RiotPunch wrote: | It's mainly food for thought. It was relevant so I quoted and posted. It's not all about a missed block if you read all he is talking about there. Not necessarily saying I agree with all being said, as I have different questions regarding Shea, I just thought it was an interesting take.
Couldn't help but notice Zombo is your "Adopt-a-Packer". Ironic since I think he and McClellin are very similar players. Shea obviously a good bit better and healthier though. |
I remember in February and March, I absolutely hated the idea of Clay in the 1st round because I was looking too much into his "highlights". It seemed like every one of his plays, he was unblocked or just ran around the tackle. IMO, he did not have many very impressive plays. Kevin Greene and staff obviously saw otherwise.
It is fun and everything to be really high on a guy and have him be a star or really low on a guy and have him bust because it makes us feel like we are educated in this sorta thing. But, the vast majority of us really don't know what to look for to be honest.
My take on McClellin... he knows how to get off his block. That was something the Packers LB's really struggled with last year, and he holds that edge very very well. |
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