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germ-x
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 Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject: 2012 Denver Bronco Prospect Visits |
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Well Denver and the rest of the league are getting prepared for the draft. Lomaxgr did a great job with a similar thread a few years ago so let's get it up and going again.
If you come across any prospect names that are coming in for a visit with Denver or Denver is going to go scout privately post it in here with a link and i will try and keep the names up to date.
Here we can see who Denver may be targeting and some of the players they are interested in.
To kick it off, this is the first name i have seen linked to Denver and a potential visit, ASU QB Brock Osweiler, who is schedule to come in next week.
Link: http://www.milehighreport.com/2012/3/31/2915594/broncos-draft-prospects-qb-brock-osweiler
Denver Bronco Visits
QB:
Brock Osweiler, Arizona St.*
Kirk Cousins, Michigan St.
Ryan Lindley, San Diego St.
RB/FB:
Robert Turbin, Utah St.
WR:
TE:
OT:
Levi Adcock, Oklahoma St.
OG/OC:
Austin Wuebbels, Missouri
DE:
DT:
Jerel Worthy, Michigan St.*
Kendall Reyes, Connecticut
LB:
CB:
Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama*
S:
Prospects Broncos Have Met With
Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma St.
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I just went back and found last year's thread for comparison.
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=442615
The only prospects that visited that we took were Von, Carter and Thomas. So it seems EXF like to be fairly secretive.
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^^^ Good post paul_mac it is always nice to look back at previous years and see what all has happened.
Just thought i would add that Denver seems to have a lot of interest in Osweiler.
http://broncotalk.net/2012/02/30449/nfl-draft/nfl-draft-two-qb-prospects-impress-broncos/
In this link it explains per Mike Klis that Denver came away extremely impressed with Osweiler in February. IMO he would be a nice addition, he is 21 needs to time to sit, but has all the tools you look for. Though, i don't see him lasting into the 3rd round. |
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I remember seeing they really like B J Coleman but IDK if they had him for a visit
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always enjoy this thread. haven't heard much so far.
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Yeh I always enjoyed this thread too. I remember our 2009 draft where we basically brought in every single player we drafted 
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| elwayfan07 wrote: | | I remember seeing they really like B J Coleman but IDK if they had him for a visit |
Judging by the guys they're showing interest in, it looks like they want a big guy with a strong arm and a high ceiling.
Guys I can see us going after are Osweiler, Coleman, Foles, Lindley.
One thing I will say is I don't want us spending more than a 4th on a QB.
Luck - 1
RG3 - 2
Tannehill - Somewhere in the top 10
Weeden - Probably either Cleveland or Miami in the second. Whoever doesn't get Tannehill.
After that, who is going to spend a day one or two pick on a QB?
I can see guys like Cousins and Osweiler taking a surprising fall.
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| paul-mac wrote: | | elwayfan07 wrote: | | I remember seeing they really like B J Coleman but IDK if they had him for a visit |
Judging by the guys they're showing interest in, it looks like they want a big guy with a strong arm and a high ceiling.
Guys I can see us going after are Osweiler, Coleman, Foles, Lindley.
One thing I will say is I don't want us spending more than a 4th on a QB.
Luck - 1
RG3 - 2
Tannehill - Somewhere in the top 10
Weeden - Probably either Cleveland or Miami in the second. Whoever doesn't get Tannehill.
After that, who is going to spend a day one or two pick on a QB?
I can see guys like Cousins and Osweiler taking a surprising fall. |
I agree. Denver is doing the right thing in being proactive. They know that Manning is only a 2-3 year fix. Therefore, they are finding a guy now to develop. I think Coleman or even a guy like Aaron Corp, from RIchmond are some small school guys they could look at
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| elwayfan07 wrote: | | paul-mac wrote: | | elwayfan07 wrote: | | I remember seeing they really like B J Coleman but IDK if they had him for a visit |
Judging by the guys they're showing interest in, it looks like they want a big guy with a strong arm and a high ceiling.
Guys I can see us going after are Osweiler, Coleman, Foles, Lindley.
One thing I will say is I don't want us spending more than a 4th on a QB.
Luck - 1
RG3 - 2
Tannehill - Somewhere in the top 10
Weeden - Probably either Cleveland or Miami in the second. Whoever doesn't get Tannehill.
After that, who is going to spend a day one or two pick on a QB?
I can see guys like Cousins and Osweiler taking a surprising fall. |
I agree. Denver is doing the right thing in being proactive. They know that Manning is only a 2-3 year fix. Therefore, they are finding a guy now to develop. I think Coleman or even a guy like Aaron Corp, from RIchmond are some small school guys they could look at |
"Develop"? I still don't get this. At all.
An honest question here; why would we "waste" a 4th round pick on a player who will see nigh-on nothing in the way of snaps. Peyton will be having his fill, leaving few crumbs for anyone else. Such is life.
Why can't we simply build a solid team around Peyton, have the pieces in place, allowing us to draft a 1st/2nd round QB the year that Peyton rides off into the sunset? Why do we always need to be groomnig an understudy? Didn't work out too well like that over in Indy, did it? |
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| howie102 wrote: | | elwayfan07 wrote: | | paul-mac wrote: | | elwayfan07 wrote: | | I remember seeing they really like B J Coleman but IDK if they had him for a visit |
Judging by the guys they're showing interest in, it looks like they want a big guy with a strong arm and a high ceiling.
Guys I can see us going after are Osweiler, Coleman, Foles, Lindley.
One thing I will say is I don't want us spending more than a 4th on a QB.
Luck - 1
RG3 - 2
Tannehill - Somewhere in the top 10
Weeden - Probably either Cleveland or Miami in the second. Whoever doesn't get Tannehill.
After that, who is going to spend a day one or two pick on a QB?
I can see guys like Cousins and Osweiler taking a surprising fall. |
I agree. Denver is doing the right thing in being proactive. They know that Manning is only a 2-3 year fix. Therefore, they are finding a guy now to develop. I think Coleman or even a guy like Aaron Corp, from RIchmond are some small school guys they could look at |
"Develop"? I still don't get this. At all.
An honest question here; why would we "waste" a 4th round pick on a player who will see nigh-on nothing in the way of snaps. Peyton will be having his fill, leaving few crumbs for anyone else. Such is life.
Why can't we simply build a solid team around Peyton, have the pieces in place, allowing us to draft a 1st/2nd round QB the year that Peyton rides off into the sunset? Why do we always need to be groomnig an understudy? Didn't work out too well like that over in Indy, did it? |
You misunderstand the point here. The problem with Indy is that they didnt develop any QB's. And it came back to bite them. It's all about becoming proactive. You want to wait until after Peyton is gone to grab anew QB. SO then you are looking at 2-3 years before he is fully up to speed and there is not guarantee what will be available in the draft and if we are if we will be in a position to get him. The price to move up etc. So if you have a guy whose potential you feel good about you draft him and make it a point to develop him. Work on his flaws and you hope that he can be ready in 2-3 years. That is much better than waiting until the last minute and hoping that a good option is available in 2-3 years.
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| howie102 wrote: | | elwayfan07 wrote: | | paul-mac wrote: | | elwayfan07 wrote: | | I remember seeing they really like B J Coleman but IDK if they had him for a visit |
Judging by the guys they're showing interest in, it looks like they want a big guy with a strong arm and a high ceiling.
Guys I can see us going after are Osweiler, Coleman, Foles, Lindley.
One thing I will say is I don't want us spending more than a 4th on a QB.
Luck - 1
RG3 - 2
Tannehill - Somewhere in the top 10
Weeden - Probably either Cleveland or Miami in the second. Whoever doesn't get Tannehill.
After that, who is going to spend a day one or two pick on a QB?
I can see guys like Cousins and Osweiler taking a surprising fall. |
I agree. Denver is doing the right thing in being proactive. They know that Manning is only a 2-3 year fix. Therefore, they are finding a guy now to develop. I think Coleman or even a guy like Aaron Corp, from RIchmond are some small school guys they could look at |
"Develop"? I still don't get this. At all.
An honest question here; why would we "waste" a 4th round pick on a player who will see nigh-on nothing in the way of snaps. Peyton will be having his fill, leaving few crumbs for anyone else. Such is life.
Why can't we simply build a solid team around Peyton, have the pieces in place, allowing us to draft a 1st/2nd round QB the year that Peyton rides off into the sunset? Why do we always need to be groomnig an understudy? Didn't work out too well like that over in Indy, did it? |
I think the big issue is you don't want to end up in the situation that Minnesota and Cincinnati ended up in last season.
Basically their QB retired and neither of them had anything so they HAD to draft a QB.
Obviously the Bengals found a gem in the second with Andy Dalton but the Vikings front office are now tied to Christian Ponder who will never be more than an average NFL QB.
At least if you've got somebody there it may make the transition a lot easier.
Heck look at Green Bay the Favre > Rodgers transition was practically effortless. It only took one bad season and that wasn't even down to Aaron Rodgers, and they've made the playoffs 3 years in a row, 2 division titles, a 15-1 season and a Lombardi trophy.
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I'm not really on either side of the whether a QB should sit or start right away argument. However, if I were to guess, I'd say the majority of the starting Qb's in the league are guys who were drafted high and started right away. Guys like Matt Schaub and Tom Brady are the exception. Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees don't really fit in guys who needed to sit because both were expected to be drafted much higher than they were.
But most of the other guys were selected high and started quickly. Both Mannings, Rivers, Stafford, Vick, Bradford, Sanchez, Freeman, Newton, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Jay Cutler and Roethlisberger.
Drafting a guy in the 6th round and letting him sit and hoping he develops is a pipe dream. That is not how it works. The guy is a 6th round pick for a reason.
Taking a guy like Tannehil to sit for a couple of years is a hell of a lot different than taking a BJ Coleman or Lindley.
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Just for the record - you are probably best off stating whether we have 'met with' prospects, worked them out at our facility or worked them out at a school's facility.
I believe you are only allowed to work out a certain amount of players at your own facility.
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| paul-mac wrote: | | howie102 wrote: | | elwayfan07 wrote: | | paul-mac wrote: | | elwayfan07 wrote: | | I remember seeing they really like B J Coleman but IDK if they had him for a visit |
Judging by the guys they're showing interest in, it looks like they want a big guy with a strong arm and a high ceiling.
Guys I can see us going after are Osweiler, Coleman, Foles, Lindley.
One thing I will say is I don't want us spending more than a 4th on a QB.
Luck - 1
RG3 - 2
Tannehill - Somewhere in the top 10
Weeden - Probably either Cleveland or Miami in the second. Whoever doesn't get Tannehill.
After that, who is going to spend a day one or two pick on a QB?
I can see guys like Cousins and Osweiler taking a surprising fall. |
I agree. Denver is doing the right thing in being proactive. They know that Manning is only a 2-3 year fix. Therefore, they are finding a guy now to develop. I think Coleman or even a guy like Aaron Corp, from RIchmond are some small school guys they could look at |
"Develop"? I still don't get this. At all.
An honest question here; why would we "waste" a 4th round pick on a player who will see nigh-on nothing in the way of snaps. Peyton will be having his fill, leaving few crumbs for anyone else. Such is life.
Why can't we simply build a solid team around Peyton, have the pieces in place, allowing us to draft a 1st/2nd round QB the year that Peyton rides off into the sunset? Why do we always need to be groomnig an understudy? Didn't work out too well like that over in Indy, did it? |
I think the big issue is you don't want to end up in the situation that Minnesota and Cincinnati ended up in last season.
Basically their QB retired and neither of them had anything so they HAD to draft a QB.
Obviously the Bengals found a gem in the second with Andy Dalton but the Vikings front office are now tied to Christian Ponder who will never be more than an average NFL QB.
At least if you've got somebody there it may make the transition a lot easier.
Heck look at Green Bay the Favre > Rodgers transition was practically effortless. It only took one bad season and that wasn't even down to Aaron Rodgers, and they've made the playoffs 3 years in a row, 2 division titles, a 15-1 season and a Lombardi trophy. |
Rogers was a QB who was, in some quarters (I believe), talked about as a No.1 pick, was he not? Not a great comparison, unless you're all for us picking a QB in the first round? Wasn't the developmental pick that we'd be after.
And would a developmental QB - one with, as his draft status would suggest, a weaknes or two in his game - get the reps that would actually help him develop? Honest questions, chaps. |
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