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texans_uk
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They should try to merge Dunta and Samuel. I'm thinking DBZ style.
Then they will get someone who can tackle and cover.
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FourThreeMafia
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:54 am Post subject: |
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Good pickup for a 7th, but I think people are overrating this signing a bit.
Dont get me wrong, wouldve loved for the Steelers to do this, but Samuel really isnt that good anymore and is overpaid. Perhaps he can pick it back up in Atlanta, but I havent been impressed with him in a few years. Still, as a number 2 next to Grimes, thats a very nice duo.
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RuskieTitan
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Really? A 7th?
Come on. The Titans could have easily given a 6th or even a 5th.
I mean, we don't NEED him... but for a quality corner like him, at that price?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| texans_uk wrote: | They should try to merge Dunta and Samuel. I'm thinking DBZ style.
Then they will get someone who can tackle and cover. |
Fuuuuuusiiiiionnnnnn HA!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| thesickness89 wrote: | | texans_uk wrote: | They should try to merge Dunta and Samuel. I'm thinking DBZ style.
Then they will get someone who can tackle and cover. |
Fuuuuuusiiiiionnnnnn HA! |
I'm thinking we'd call him 'Adunta Samuelson.' His SSJ4 form would include dreads several miles long.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| RuskieTitan wrote: | Really? A 7th?
Come on. The Titans could have easily given a 6th or even a 5th.
I mean, we don't NEED him... but for a quality corner like him, at that price? |
I hope you don't really believe that.
-Can't tackle
-Gambles too much
-Gets beat in coverage too much
-Can't press
He's been nothing but a big name since he left New England, where BB made him look good and made him his money.
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atljbo1
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Initially reported as having a value of $18.5 million over three years, a league source tells PFT that the base value of Samuel’s new contract is $14.5 million over three, with escalators that could push the number to $18.5 million. |
I also keep hearing some say he is not good anymore.... Well 80% of the philly fans disagree.. Go check out their MB and also
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| Quote: | | Samuel and Grimes are a great pair of starting corners. Remember, Samuel was number one in both yards per pass and Success Rate in 2010, then third in both stats for 2011. I know our charting isn't perfect, but that's got to be a pretty good indicator that the guy can play |
Profootball Focus have him rated as highly also
Not saying he is the old Samuel... But the guy is still a real good CB with great instincts (who cant tackle....lol) .. He is a gambler.. He will win some and lose some |
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MeanJoeGreen
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| yeah, samuels has still got it. If you don't believe that, you haven't been watching the eagles the last couple years. Yeah, he'll gamble but he'll also get you 7 interceptions in a year |
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Hotlanta12
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:20 am Post subject: |
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I'm not believing some of you guys when you say he isn't good anymore. That's BS. He was a top 10 CB. Maybe not anymore, but he would start on just about any team in the NFL if given the chance except maybe the Eagles who have DRC and Aso. Other than that, anyone would be fortunate to have him. He'll play at a high level at LCB for us in Mike Nolan's scheme which is favorable for DBs. Guaranteed.
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WhackyPlague
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| tonyto3690 wrote: | | RuskieTitan wrote: | Really? A 7th?
Come on. The Titans could have easily given a 6th or even a 5th.
I mean, we don't NEED him... but for a quality corner like him, at that price? |
I hope you don't really believe that.
-Can't tackle
-Gambles too much
-Gets beat in coverage too much
-Can't press
He's been nothing but a big name since he left New England, where BB made him look good and made him his money. |
He can tackle, he just usually chooses not to. He gambles a lot but not "too much", he was top 5 in just about every coverage metric last season. |
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Bleedin_Green36
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| tonyto3690 wrote: | | RuskieTitan wrote: | Really? A 7th?
Come on. The Titans could have easily given a 6th or even a 5th.
I mean, we don't NEED him... but for a quality corner like him, at that price? |
I hope you don't really believe that.
-Can't tackle
-Gambles too much
-Gets beat in coverage too much
-Can't press
He's been nothing but a big name since he left New England, where BB made him look good and made him his money. |
LOL, I would love for you to check the stats. And you act like Belichek is some DB guru, your secondary isn't very good and you haven't had a good corner since Asante left.
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eagles101
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| Bleedin_Green36 wrote: | | tonyto3690 wrote: | | RuskieTitan wrote: | Really? A 7th?
Come on. The Titans could have easily given a 6th or even a 5th.
I mean, we don't NEED him... but for a quality corner like him, at that price? |
I hope you don't really believe that.
-Can't tackle
-Gambles too much
-Gets beat in coverage too much
-Can't press
He's been nothing but a big name since he left New England, where BB made him look good and made him his money. |
LOL, I would love for you to check the stats. And you act like Belichek is some DB guru, your secondary isn't very good and you haven't had a good corner since Asante left. |
he actually got more ints with the eagles than the pats.
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scar988
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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This was an insanely brilliant move by the Falcons getting him for 3 years 14.5M and only a 7th... he cut his pay in HALF to play for Atlanta... wow.
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Bleedin_Green36
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| scar988 wrote: | | This was an insanely brilliant move by the Falcons getting him for 3 years 14.5M and only a 7th... he cut his pay in HALF to play for Atlanta... wow. |
Because he was no longer the starter in Philly. He wanted to start and be on a playoff team.
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scar988
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| Bleedin_Green36 wrote: | | scar988 wrote: | | This was an insanely brilliant move by the Falcons getting him for 3 years 14.5M and only a 7th... he cut his pay in HALF to play for Atlanta... wow. |
Because he was no longer the starter in Philly. He wanted to start and be on a playoff team. |
he'll definitely start for us. may have to play RCB... but that's no big deal.
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