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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Agree completely.. I guess the staff must really feel like Davis can get over his issues in space and develop into a good RT.


Well he hasn't been bad, considering it's his first year under Harbs. I can't say I'm crazy about Boone at guard, but Harbaugh knows what he's doing. IMO there's no way he didn't explore sticking Davis at guard too, it's been pretty much everywhere.
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-1.0: What a waste!

Anthony Davis, T (11th overall pick in 2010): Davis did progress in his second year there’s no denying that. While he was god-awful as a rookie (-28.1) he was merely pretty terrible in Year 2 (-17.0). There’s a lot of excuses made for him, but the simple facts are Davis continues to give up far too much pressure, and is inconsistent in the run game. Needs to speed up that development.


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http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/04/21/draft-grader-san-francisco-49ers/
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The San Francisco 49ers made sure that they returned all 11 defensive starters and locked up a starting quarterback, wide receiver, and short-yardage running back in free agency. What they didn't do is upgrade the right side of their offense line. Right Tackle Anthony Davis was Pro Football Focus's 48th best pass blocker out of 60 tackles who played at least 60% of their team's snaps, and right guard Adam Snyder (who has since left for Arizona in free agency) was 56th out of 58th offensive guards.


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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1143219-2012-nfl-draft-biggest-draft-need-for-every-nfc-west-team
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe having such awful play at RG has made Davis look worse than he is.
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LeCharles Bentley, a two-time Pro Bowl lineman whose career was cut short after six seasons due to a knee injury and complications from surgery, has worked closely with Boone for several years at Bentley's O-Line Academy near Cleveland. "Alex can play guard if it's the best thing for the team, but physically it's not the ideal position for him," Bentley said. "Good guards are easier to find than good tackles. I believe Alex is a very good tackle in the making." "Honestly, in their scheme, guards are a dime a dozen," Bentley said. "A good young OT is such a premium. It would be a waste of ability. . . . But if he's one of the five best, yeah, get him on the field." Bentley said he believes the 49ers' best option would be to move Anthony Davis to guard. "I believe they have to figure out who the best five are first," Bentley said. "Then, figure out the proper configuration. Alex is my guy. He still has to show he's ready to be an NFL starter. Potential is just unproven talent. There are four guys we all know are starters. They need one more. I believe Alex is a starter, but he's going to have to earn it."


http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/Boone-expected-to-get-chance-to-compete-?blockID=686430&feedID=5936
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-1.0: What a waste!

Anthony Davis, T (11th overall pick in 2010): Davis did progress in his second year there’s no denying that. While he was god-awful as a rookie (-28.1) he was merely pretty terrible in Year 2 (-17.0). There’s a lot of excuses made for him, but the simple facts are Davis continues to give up far too much pressure, and is inconsistent in the run game. Needs to speed up that development.


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http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/04/21/draft-grader-san-francisco-49ers/


Still improvement nonetheless, plus there's nothing showing that he won't continue improving. And it is his first year in the system, a lot of guys looked lost this year and gelled together towards the end of the year.

I'm just not ready to call it quits on a hard working kid who's only 22 and has only been with Harbaugh for a year.
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I'm just not ready to call it quits on a hard working kid who's only 22 and has only been with Harbaugh for a year.


I can respect that. I don't look at shifting him inside to RG as "quitting on him" though. He would still be a starting OL. I look at it as getting the best 5 OL on the field... for the overall betterment of the team. Davis shouldn't take this as a demotion... and we as a team can't put his feelings ahead of what could be improving the team. Davis would, IMHO, highly upgrade the RG spot. Boone would at least slightly upgrade the RT spot. Win.. Win.
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LeCharles Bentley, a two-time Pro Bowl lineman whose career was cut short after six seasons due to a knee injury and complications from surgery, has worked closely with Boone for several years at Bentley's O-Line Academy near Cleveland. "Alex can play guard if it's the best thing for the team, but physically it's not the ideal position for him," Bentley said. "Good guards are easier to find than good tackles. I believe Alex is a very good tackle in the making." "Honestly, in their scheme, guards are a dime a dozen," Bentley said. "A good young OT is such a premium. It would be a waste of ability. . . . But if he's one of the five best, yeah, get him on the field." Bentley said he believes the 49ers' best option would be to move Anthony Davis to guard. "I believe they have to figure out who the best five are first," Bentley said. "Then, figure out the proper configuration. Alex is my guy. He still has to show he's ready to be an NFL starter. Potential is just unproven talent. There are four guys we all know are starters. They need one more. I believe Alex is a starter, but he's going to have to earn it."


http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/Boone-expected-to-get-chance-to-compete-?blockID=686430&feedID=5936


I wish. Laughing

I'm open to seeing Boone as either the primary backup to both T spots or as starting RT with Davis shifting over. It all depends on what Harbaugh and Drevno decide.
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SoCalNiner wrote:

I'm just not ready to call it quits on a hard working kid who's only 22 and has only been with Harbaugh for a year.


I can respect that. I don't look at shifting him inside to RG as "quitting on him" though. He would still be a starting OL. I look at it as getting the best 5 OL on the field... for the overall betterment of the team. Davis shouldn't take this as a demotion... and we as a team can't put his feelings ahead of what could be improving the team. Davis would, IMHO, highly upgrade the RG spot. Boone would at least slightly upgrade the RT spot. Win.. Win.


I agree with this.
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-1.0: What a waste!

Anthony Davis, T (11th overall pick in 2010): Davis did progress in his second year there’s no denying that. While he was god-awful as a rookie (-28.1) he was merely pretty terrible in Year 2 (-17.0). There’s a lot of excuses made for him, but the simple facts are Davis continues to give up far too much pressure, and is inconsistent in the run game. Needs to speed up that development.


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http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/04/21/draft-grader-san-francisco-49ers/


Still improvement nonetheless, plus there's nothing showing that he won't continue improving. And it is his first year in the system, a lot of guys looked lost this year and gelled together towards the end of the year.

I'm just not ready to call it quits on a hard working kid who's only 22 and has only been with Harbaugh for a year.



That and plus the fact that he is a LT making the transition to RT. The footwork with the kickslide has to be pretty hard to master. It would be like trying to write with your right hand when you are left handed. Granted he did play right guard, but it was early in his playing career. If he doesnt show improvement this season then a change should be in order.
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I'm sorry, but Anthony Davis wasn't terrible. Screw the numbers, when I watched him play well, he was freakin' dominant.
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I'm sorry, but Anthony Davis wasn't terrible. Screw the numbers, when I watched him play well, he was freakin' dominant.


Yeah. I don't think he played that bad. His rookie season was something else though.
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c0insnap wrote:
I'm sorry, but Anthony Davis wasn't terrible. Screw the numbers, when I watched him play well, he was freakin' dominant.


Yeah. I don't think he played that bad. His rookie season was something else though.


I think ruzyZ worded this the best on the prior page...

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I'd much rather have Davis inside. If Boone or Staley gets injured, we slide Davis to tackle and we deal with his limitations. That's what we're already doing with him at RT anyway.

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http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/4/30/2988377/nfl-draft-sleepers-49ers-joe-looney-right-guard

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Here are a few more comments by Coach Harbaugh about Joe Looney:

What made Looney’s interview at the Combine so impressive? Why did he jump out to you?

"Oomph, pizzazz. Really bright guy. Really smart, smart person. Not only book smart, but street smart, football smart. Everything matched up. Everything that you’d heard about Joe and all of our research that we did on Joe at the school. You cannot find a person on that campus who has anything less than glowing things to say about him. Professors, coaches, trainers, equipment managers, from faculty to football to everybody that comes in contact with him there literally not a negative word. And you see what he’s done, the pattern of success that he’s had in the classroom, on the field. And then to meet him and to see and know that it all matches up, that was glaring to me. That’s what made that interview stand out."

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Newberry: Looney has a leg up on most rookies

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/05/newberry-looney-has-a-leg-up-on-most-rookies.html#storylink=cpy

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Jeremy Newberry thinks rookie guard Joe Looney will have a head start when it comes to picking up the line calls and protection schemes of an NFL offense. After all, Newberry coached Looney on just that this past winter. Newberry, who works for Octagon football, which represents Looney, flew to Atlanta in January to give the Wake Forest lineman a crash course in learning how an NFL offensive line works. Newberry came away impressed. "The kid's really, really sharp," said Newberry, echoing what Jim Harbaugh said after Looney was drafted.

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