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magnus1972
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| i love the picks but undrafted brewester why did we not go after brewster if no good cut him but at one point he was the #1 center coming out i know he was having problems but wow undrafted and not going to get him please explain that to me |
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SadLionFan00
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:31 am Post subject: |
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He was OK in college, no reason to believe he will be of any worth in the NFL.
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Smack
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:37 am Post subject: |
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He was also terrible at the senior bowl apparently
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Big Cat
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:42 am Post subject: Re: brewster |
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| magnus1972 wrote: | | i love the picks but undrafted brewester why did we not go after brewster if no good cut him but at one point he was the #1 center coming out i know he was having problems but wow undrafted and not going to get him please explain that to me |
I agree. Maybe they were afraid he would show up Dom ( Brandon Inge) Raiola. |
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Smack
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:01 am Post subject: |
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yeah either that or he's just plain awful
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| SadLionFan00 wrote: | | He was OK in college, no reason to believe he will be of any worth in the NFL. |
Agreed. If every team passed on him through 7 rounds then you have to believe his rocky year at OSU is a reflection of he will do in the NFL.
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bdubs3316
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| YlionsY wrote: | | SadLionFan00 wrote: | | He was OK in college, no reason to believe he will be of any worth in the NFL. |
Agreed. If every team passed on him through 7 rounds then you have to believe his rocky year at OSU is a reflection of he will do in the NFL. |
with this logic....one would assume that since all teams passed on Tom Bray at least 5 times, he would've been at best a career back up QB.
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| bdubs3316 wrote: | | YlionsY wrote: | | SadLionFan00 wrote: | | He was OK in college, no reason to believe he will be of any worth in the NFL. |
Agreed. If every team passed on him through 7 rounds then you have to believe his rocky year at OSU is a reflection of he will do in the NFL. |
with this logic....one would assume that since all teams passed on Tom Bray at least 5 times, he would've been at best a career back up QB. |
I understand diamond in the rough and value doesn't reflect draft position in the NFL. Brewster could come in and be an all pro C and I could be wrong. I liked Brewster but when you go from a 1st round potential to undrafted in one year there has to be some concern.
I think Brady is the exception rather than the rule. As well as Brady did get drafted while Brewster did go undrafted.
Of the number of undrafted players after the draft how many are signed? How many make a roster? How many contribute in some way? How many become starters? How many become All Pro? Its a reverse Triangle. Sure you can get a James Harrison or Arian Foster but thats out of hundreds of signed undrafted players a year.
Not that I don't wish the Lions don't take flyers on any players but the odds are in our favor on passing on him. Sure you can draft a name but I'd rather draft talent that makes us remember their name.
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Sllim Pickens
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| bdubs3316 wrote: | | YlionsY wrote: | | SadLionFan00 wrote: | | He was OK in college, no reason to believe he will be of any worth in the NFL. |
Agreed. If every team passed on him through 7 rounds then you have to believe his rocky year at OSU is a reflection of he will do in the NFL. |
with this logic....one would assume that since all teams passed on Tom Bray at least 5 times, he would've been at best a career back up QB. |
To be fair, the success rate drops with each round. So yes, the fact that someone has been passed over a ton of times hurts his chances. People expected Tom brady to maybe be a decent #2/3 QB. It dosn't happen often that a player breaks out and is more than a backup from the late rounds and UDFA.
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bdubs3316
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| YlionsY wrote: | | bdubs3316 wrote: | | YlionsY wrote: | | SadLionFan00 wrote: | | He was OK in college, no reason to believe he will be of any worth in the NFL. |
Agreed. If every team passed on him through 7 rounds then you have to believe his rocky year at OSU is a reflection of he will do in the NFL. |
with this logic....one would assume that since all teams passed on Tom Bray at least 5 times, he would've been at best a career back up QB. |
I understand diamond in the rough and value doesn't reflect draft position in the NFL. Brewster could come in and be an all pro C and I could be wrong. I liked Brewster but when you go from a 1st round potential to undrafted in one year there has to be some concern.
I think Brady is the exception rather than the rule. As well as Brady did get drafted while Brewster did go undrafted.
Of the number of undrafted players after the draft how many are signed? How many make a roster? How many contribute in some way? How many become starters? How many become All Pro? Its a reverse Triangle. Sure you can get a James Harrison or Arian Foster but thats out of hundreds of signed undrafted players a year.
Not that I don't wish the Lions don't take flyers on any players but the odds are in our favor on passing on him. Sure you can draft a name but I'd rather draft talent that makes us remember their name. |
For a free acquisition, a bad year shouldn't be the only thing considered (not saying it is0. But if he was considered a 1st round C at one point...he clearly has talent. It's the coaches job to coach him up to his talent level. strengthen his weaknesses, as well as his strengths.
this is a position of need for us, and it was a "free" pick up, which should've occurred. if it didnt work out, we didn't "waste" a draft pick or a roster spot.
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YlionsY
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| bdubs3316 wrote: | For a free acquisition, a bad year shouldn't be the only thing considered (not saying it is0. But if he was considered a 1st round C at one point...he clearly has talent. It's the coaches job to coach him up to his talent level. strengthen his weaknesses, as well as his strengths.
this is a position of need for us, and it was a "free" pick up, which should've occurred. if it didnt work out, we didn't "waste" a draft pick or a roster spot. |
No I agree. Like I said, I don't mind taking a flyer on a guy to see where he is at. I wouldn't have minded if we brought in Brewster but I'm not upset over it either.
Just I'm not too upset we didn't because as we have seen before this type of drop represents maybe he isn't an NFL type talent or player. Great in college bad in the NFL. Its not unheard of.
Maybe what he needs isn't coachable or maybe what is coachable can't reach the necessary level.
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tippitover
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| bdubs3316 wrote: | | YlionsY wrote: | | bdubs3316 wrote: | | YlionsY wrote: | | SadLionFan00 wrote: | | He was OK in college, no reason to believe he will be of any worth in the NFL. |
Agreed. If every team passed on him through 7 rounds then you have to believe his rocky year at OSU is a reflection of he will do in the NFL. |
with this logic....one would assume that since all teams passed on Tom Bray at least 5 times, he would've been at best a career back up QB. |
I understand diamond in the rough and value doesn't reflect draft position in the NFL. Brewster could come in and be an all pro C and I could be wrong. I liked Brewster but when you go from a 1st round potential to undrafted in one year there has to be some concern.
I think Brady is the exception rather than the rule. As well as Brady did get drafted while Brewster did go undrafted.
Of the number of undrafted players after the draft how many are signed? How many make a roster? How many contribute in some way? How many become starters? How many become All Pro? Its a reverse Triangle. Sure you can get a James Harrison or Arian Foster but thats out of hundreds of signed undrafted players a year.
Not that I don't wish the Lions don't take flyers on any players but the odds are in our favor on passing on him. Sure you can draft a name but I'd rather draft talent that makes us remember their name. |
For a free acquisition, a bad year shouldn't be the only thing considered (not saying it is0. But if he was considered a 1st round C at one point...he clearly has talent. It's the coaches job to coach him up to his talent level. strengthen his weaknesses, as well as his strengths.
this is a position of need for us, and it was a "free" pick up, which should've occurred. if it didnt work out, we didn't "waste" a draft pick or a roster spot. |
or maybe we offered him an udfa contract and he did not want to come here. you have to remember they have a choice where they go. i'm sure multiple teams offered a contract to him.
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Typical_Lions
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| With training camp rosters expanding to 90 this year I think they should have tried to get him. But then again, I believe that they know a bit more than we do about why he was not drafted in the first place. |
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since57
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Typical_Lions wrote: | | With training camp rosters expanding to 90 this year I think they should have tried to get him. But then again, I believe that they know a bit more than we do about why he was not drafted in the first place. |
from OSU?  |
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skatebeanz
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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He was picked up by a team. There is only 1 Brewster.
Could 2+2 mean we may inquired but were a smidgeon late? It's possible.
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