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bobdevine
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 Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject: Running back of the future |
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Who will be the RBs of the future? I'm trying to understand the offensive plans by looking at the personnel moves.
Currently Willis McGahee is the feature back with Knowshon Moreno a possible 3rd-down back. Lance Ball is the backup.
With McGahee turning 31 years old this season, the Broncos have to plan for the future.
Will Ronnie Hillman and Mario Fannin be the RB tandem of 2013? The pattern is popular of pairing two RBs instead of relying on just one. Fannin was an undrafted free agent but he has size and speed.
It also looks like Knowshon Moreno will do a lot of sitting on the bench. One more injury may be the last of his career because he would soon be cut. |
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Zukhyubern
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd say Fannin is a long shot to even make the team, regardless of how many people fell in love with him last training camp. I also wouldn't be surprised if Moreno was cut. He's injury prone and hasn't accomplished anything as a first round pick. |
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mke1010
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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I think Hillman will always be the 2nd of two backs in a 2 back set for the Broncos. Long term we may not have Mcgahee's successor on the team as of yet. I am sure Knowshon Moreno and Fannin would like to prove all doubters wrong and break out to be the back of the future.
Running backs are not that difficult to find relatively speaking. If there isnt a legit #1 back prospect on the team to replace Mcgahee then maybe one is drafted next season. If Willis gets hurt, I am confident enough to think we have enough backs on the team to carry on by committee for this season. |
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germ-x
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Well take this for what it is worth, but I read on rotoworld 2 or 3 weeks back that Denver is supposedly very high on Mario Fannin and expect him to be a part of the offense. |
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JerseysFinest27
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: Running back of the future |
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Lets get back to the real question...
| bobdevine wrote: | | Who will be the RBs of the future? I'm trying to understand the offensive plans by looking at the personnel moves. |
Who do I think should be the RB's of the future or who do I think EXF will have as RB's of the future?
My opinion: Ronnie Hillman and Knowshon Moreno
My feelings on what EXF will decide: Will Michael Dyer or Marcus Lattimore be there when we pick in 2013?
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LW33
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Moreno should be better in this offense as he'll get the ball in space which is suited to his style and strengths. Hillman will likely be the 3rd down back and Fannin and Ball will Duke it out for the last spot. |
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ToastedOats
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Just listen to Elway and Fox - they are not scared of running Hillman a lot in the upcoming years. You don't trade up 20+ spots for a 3rd down back. Hillman will be used in that role this year to keep McGahee fresh, but he is the guy. He runs between the tackles and isn't scared of contact.
I see Moreno (unless by some miracle he shows something in the preseason) being cut and Denver moving on.
McGahee - starter
Hillman - will give McGahee less carries to keep him fresh
Fanin & Moreno - will have to show something during preseason to stay
Ball - STer? - That is how he will have to make the team |
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Winder23
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I could see us keeping 5 backs this year with Moreno not even being one of them.
I would like to see them use a three player rotation on a regular basis.
Willis McGahee - I would try and limit his carries in the first half and use him to beat down the clock in games where we have a lead. When Baltimore had a lead in the second half they would lean on McGahee to pound out the clock. Then Rice would come in a take all the glory.
Mario Fannin - Use him like Auburn used him. They would take advantage of mismatches in the passing game and give him a few carries. He could also compete for kickoff return duties. I am very high on this guy. I watched him at camp before he got hurt last year. He looked good. His speed was hard to miss and he has great hands. According to Jersey's Finest he is very fumle prone, but that can be corrected.
Ronnie Hillman - They should work him in slowly. He is very young so there will be a learning curve in pass pro etc. They will probably start him with a few touches a game and let him make plays in certain third down situations.
We don't have to have a 20+ carry a game guy. McGahee is better off with 15-20 touches. I'm sure we will run it more than they did in Indy, but Manning is still going to want to chuck it around the field some too. Let's put it this way, I doubt we lead the NFL rushing this year.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| A healthy Moreno is 1st or second string, not Ball. |
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paul-mac
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Papa-Pwn wrote: | | A healthy Moreno is 1st or second string, not Ball. |
A healthy Moreno is 3rd string at very best.
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broncospride95
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'm really high on Hillman and I think he will be very good for us.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Watching Hillman play at State, he ran fairly well between the tackles, he is stronger than he looks, I'm not saying it will translate in the NFL, but he took hits and got up. He knows how to fall down correctly instead of staying up. he played in a pro-style offense, rather than a spread. SDSU ran a lot, Lindley and him had a good play action fake going.
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| Winder23 wrote: | | Mario Fannin - Use him like Auburn used him. They would take advantage of mismatches in the passing game and give him a few carries. He could also compete for kickoff return duties. I am very high on this guy. I watched him at camp before he got hurt last year. He looked good. His speed was hard to miss and he has great hands. According to Jersey's Finest he is very fumle prone, but that can be corrected. |
Alot of you guys are being too unrealistic about the hopes/skills of Mario Fannin. Let me just say this because the rule applies for all UDFA's. Theres a reason they went undrafted. Their skills just were up to par for what an everyday NFL player looks like.
In Fannins case, no offense Winder, but I disagree with your assessment of him. As an Auburn season-ticket holder I saw enough of Mario to barf.
First off, everyone gets way to carried away with his 40-time. Great, hes track fast. During games he doesnt show that speed ever. I watched him regularly lack the vision, footwork, and aggressiveness to be a RB in the NFL. Not only that, but when he finally carried the ball (which was maybe 1-2 times a game) he would either jump around a bunch or fumble the ball and flop on it. However, I will say his best quality is that hes a good 3rd down player. Hes not afraid to block and he can play a little out of the backfield. Other than that, all of you are going crazy over a guy that in my opinion will be on the PS this year.
I also want to say one thing about 5th rounders to UDFA's. Most of them will likely not start in the NFL. You may have a couple here and there but you cant count on it. You need them to become role-players. Whatever theyre good at, its up to the coaches to bring that to light and use it often. The player must realize their job is to do that one thing they do well (whether it be a goaline back, a 3rd down pass rusher, or a ST gunner) to the best of their abilities. In the NFL these days its all about matchups. For all I know, Fox and McCoy are training Fannin to be a 3rd down back. He might succeed in the NFL if thats all he can do.
| paul-mac wrote: | | Papa-Pwn wrote: | | A healthy Moreno is 1st or second string, not Ball. |
A healthy Moreno is 3rd string at very best. |
Absolutely not. Moreno, when healthy, is better back than Ball. The problem is that he hasnt gotten the chance to prove it consistently because hes been hurt. Early last year he was routinely making plays and getting some "ooos and ahhhhs" from many people in here.
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broncospride95
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| JerseysFinest27 wrote: | | paul-mac wrote: | | Papa-Pwn wrote: | | A healthy Moreno is 1st or second string, not Ball. |
A healthy Moreno is 3rd string at very best. |
Absolutely not. Moreno, when healthy, is better back than Ball. The problem is that he hasnt gotten the chance to prove it consistently because hes been hurt. Early last year he was routinely making plays and getting some "ooos and ahhhhs" from many people in here. |
Moreno last year really did seem to look better last year and it was a shame he got hurt when he did. He could've really shined in that offense last year imo. I still think we should retain Moreno for another year and see what he can do. Worst case scenario he gets hurt again. Best case, he stays healthy actually and we may actually be able to move forward with a 1-2 punch of Hillman and Moreno if he shows he's capable (this is post McGahee).
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paul-mac
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Even if Moreno outplays Ball in camp he's still 3rd string though. Honestly I'm rooting for him to make the team because I hate seeing first rounders go to waste but every time he takes the field you just expect a -2 yard run.
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