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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:07 pm    Post subject: Teams That Ignored 'Obvious' Needs... Reply with quote

Something to be said for picking BPA according to your board - or just an oversight on behalf of the team in question?

Chicago Bears - O-Line

Much of the pre-draft talk surrounding the Bears was that they would have to continue re-building an offensive line that stuggled again last year. This draft was pretty loaded, especially with interior options, but Chicago decided to go another route and ignored this need altogether. Perhaps they have faith in JaMarcus Webb at left tackle and Gabe Carimi coming back to fill in on the right side and the interior options available to them. Either way, seems odd that you don't seem particularly interested in protecting your franchise Quaterback.

Carolina Panthers - Defensive Tackle

Terrell McClain and Sione Fua were both 3rd picks bought in to start right away at a decimated position in Carolina and struggled at times. With plenty of options in the 1st round, they passed on the likes of Fletcher Cox and Michael Brockers for Luke Kuechly in the 1st round which seemed fair enough. In the second, however, they had the chance to land Jerel Worthy, Devon Still or Kendall Reyes - all had 1st/2nd round grades but decided to pass and then passed on the position altogether from there on in.

Cleveland Browns - Wide Receiver

There were two schools of thinking coming into the draft, either get a new franchise QB or load Colt McCoy with weopons. The Browns decided to go with option 1 and there's no way you pick a 28 year old rookie in Round 1 without giving him the starting job. That'll make you look like an imbecile in no time. I realise Trent Richardson is probably going to be the offense next year - but I can't believe in a receiver class as deep as this was, they added a 5'10, 170 pound kick returner as their only piece. Greg Little showed promise last year, but had some bad drops and doesn't look like anything more than a number 2 receiver. Joshua Cribbs has shown flashes of improvement at wideout, but still doesn't look like he has natural position. Mohamed Massaquoi is the definition of meh.

Colts - Defense

I know you want to surround your new guy with pieces to help the offense succeed and the Colts should be applauded for that. However, adopting an offense-first, fighting-fire-with-fire policy and placing that squarely on a rookie QB's head probably won't get you too far in the short-term. 2 defensive picks, one of which (Josh Chapman) not not be able to play next year and the other a 7th round pick project, seems a little short-sighted. Adapting to a new 3-4 system will be hard enough as it is, but by not drafting a defensive player who can start away on an already flagging defensive roster is not the best way to kick things off.

Jets - Outside Pass-Rush

Jets - you cannot blitz on every play. We know this now, which is why you need defensive players who can win one on one and sack the Quarterback. Coples is a typical Jets boom-or-bust kind of guy, who could go either way - but he'll be playing in a new position and it's hard to see production from him playing the five from the outset. With Vinny Curry still on the board in the 2nd, the Jets could have upgraded two defensive spots in the first two rounds. Certainly made more sense than trading up for another boom-or-bust pick in Stephen Hill who won't be able to contribute right away, will play in a run-based offense and might have Tebow throwing wobblies his way before the season is out.

Titans - Center

The Titans want to run the football, but have a mess of an interior line - partially solved by the addition of Steve Hutchinson, but we're not sure how much he has left in the tank. Many thought they would pick-up Peter Konz in the 1st - made a lot of sense with the way he opened up lanes at Wisconsin in a run-based offense. When they past on him in the first, we couldn't they would be have the opportunity to take him in the 2nd - but that's what happened. Instead, they took Zach Brown - a linebacker with a lot of questions over his (lack of) physcality. Eugene Amano looks like the answer again next year for Tennessee.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New England Patriots - Deep threat WR

You can't avoid this one, cmon man. A deep threat could really opened up their offense to let Gronk and Aaron and Welker do even more damage. I know they have fairly respectable receivers on the outside right no in Lloyd and Branch and co., but they definitely could've hit the need for a deep threat somewhere in the draft.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Packers ignored center depth (starting center is old and no solid backups), also possibly RB depth too
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bohlmann20 wrote:
New England Patriots - Deep threat WR

You can't avoid this one, cmon man. A deep threat could really opened up their offense to let Gronk and Aaron and Welker do even more damage. I know they have fairly respectable receivers on the outside right no in Lloyd and Branch and co., but they definitely could've hit the need for a deep threat somewhere in the draft.


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Actually no we don't want to run as much anymore. This draft showed we're moving more towards a pass-first offense. We're building the offense for Locker. CJ will still get his carries but the pressure will be taken off him with a more explosive passing offense. Plus Amano's job isn't exactly safe. We've had a guy on the bench(Fernando Velasco) who's looked very good when some1's went down with injury. Munch has stated their will be competition at center between Amano, Velasco, and Kevin Matthews(Bruce's son). Also could see undrafted FA William Vlachos in that competition. As far as the Zach Brown, I'm not sure why people hated it. He's the best coverage LB in this draft and by far the fastest. With that size and athleticism, he can turn into a very good playmaker. Reminds me alot of former Titan Keith Bulluck. Also with the addition of Brown, it lets us blitz Ayers more bc we can leave Brown in coverage.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miami has Brian hartline as their current number 1receiver. We also needed a pulling guard pretty badly. But we had a ton of needs including at FS.
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Minnesota has so many needs, obviously not all of them will be filled in one offseason. Which i am sure is the case for several other rebuilding teams as well.

For the Vikes, they did a great job filling the glaring needs:

1. LT - Kalil
2. S - Smith and Blanton
3. CB - Robinson (not sure if his long term future is at RCB or NCB, MN needs both)
4. WR - Childs and Wright.

Most Vikes fans had these positions as the Vikes biggest needs and they got a lot of talent to fill those needs.

However, the Vikes still have big needs at MLB and DT, however, they will have to wait until 2013 as MN had to fix the above issues first.

7th round pick Audie Cole and Jasper Brinkley look like the top two likely starters at MLB. Maybe Cole surprises?

As for DT, its a concerning need. Guion is moving to NT, and should be a better fit there according to himself (he likes to play closer to the ball). Kevin Williams is likely playing his last season as a Viking as his contract baloons in 2013. Behind those two starters, MN has Fred Evans and Christian Ballard. They also picked up free agent Tydreke Powell and tweener Trevor Guyton.

Going forward, DT and MLB are the biggest needs. You can potentially add QB, WR and CB to that list if the current young starters flop.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bohlmann20 wrote:
New England Patriots - Deep threat WR

You can't avoid this one, cmon man. A deep threat could really opened up their offense to let Gronk and Aaron and Welker do even more damage. I know they have fairly respectable receivers on the outside right no in Lloyd and Branch and co., but they definitely could've hit the need for a deep threat somewhere in the draft.
They already have one of the best deep ball receivers in the league in Brandon Lloyd.



My one is Tampa not getting their Corner. I was amazed they passed up the chance to take Claiborne.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Detroit Lions- CB (yet again)

Chris Houston is our only legitimate starter, I would have loved to give up a 7th for Samuel, or simply traded up for a starting corner.

Looks like our #2 corner will be between Alphonso Smith, Aaron Berry (please no), Jacob Lacey, or any of the corners we signed/drafted. (Chris Greenwood, Jonte Green)

Taking Boyles is an interesting move, but he's simply not going to help us much, if at all, this year. A corner or even drafting Peter Konz at 54 would have been a great move.
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paul-mac wrote:
Bohlmann20 wrote:
New England Patriots - Deep threat WR

You can't avoid this one, cmon man. A deep threat could really opened up their offense to let Gronk and Aaron and Welker do even more damage. I know they have fairly respectable receivers on the outside right no in Lloyd and Branch and co., but they definitely could've hit the need for a deep threat somewhere in the draft.
They already have one of the best deep ball receivers in the league in Brandon Lloyd.



My one is Tampa not getting their Corner. I was amazed they passed up the chance to take Claiborne.


Brandon Lloyd is not a deep threat. And yes, I know you're a Denver fan and have watched him the past few years. I don't care, he's not a deep threat.

He's a great route runner with less than great physical tools, who will beat defenders on intermediate routes with savvy play and great hands.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't say it is ignoring because they drafted one in the 6th. But the Bucs with CB's.
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paul-mac wrote:
Bohlmann20 wrote:
New England Patriots - Deep threat WR

You can't avoid this one, cmon man. A deep threat could really opened up their offense to let Gronk and Aaron and Welker do even more damage. I know they have fairly respectable receivers on the outside right no in Lloyd and Branch and co., but they definitely could've hit the need for a deep threat somewhere in the draft.
They already have one of the best deep ball receivers in the league in Brandon Lloyd.



My one is Tampa not getting their Corner. I was amazed they passed up the chance to take Claiborne.


We didn't have any starting caliber safeties on the team and only had 1 decent LB, meanwhile we have Talib, Barber, Wright and Biggers at CB. Not impressive CBs I know, but they are way, way better than our LBs and safeties were.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Travis Benjamin will do just fine
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ttitansfan4life wrote:
Actually no we don't want to run as much anymore. This draft showed we're moving more towards a pass-first offense. We're building the offense for Locker. CJ will still get his carries but the pressure will be taken off him with a more explosive passing offense. Plus Amano's job isn't exactly safe. We've had a guy on the bench(Fernando Velasco) who's looked very good when some1's went down with injury. Munch has stated their will be competition at center between Amano, Velasco, and Kevin Matthews(Bruce's son). Also could see undrafted FA William Vlachos in that competition. As far as the Zach Brown, I'm not sure why people hated it. He's the best coverage LB in this draft and by far the fastest. With that size and athleticism, he can turn into a very good playmaker. Reminds me alot of former Titan Keith Bulluck. Also with the addition of Brown, it lets us blitz Ayers more bc we can leave Brown in coverage.


Lavonte David is the best coverage LB in this draft. And for every play Brown makes for you, he'll blow another 2 or 3 by getting out of position or missing tackles.

Bohlmann20 wrote:
paul-mac wrote:
Bohlmann20 wrote:
New England Patriots - Deep threat WR

You can't avoid this one, cmon man. A deep threat could really opened up their offense to let Gronk and Aaron and Welker do even more damage. I know they have fairly respectable receivers on the outside right no in Lloyd and Branch and co., but they definitely could've hit the need for a deep threat somewhere in the draft.
They already have one of the best deep ball receivers in the league in Brandon Lloyd.



My one is Tampa not getting their Corner. I was amazed they passed up the chance to take Claiborne.


Brandon Lloyd is not a deep threat. And yes, I know you're a Denver fan and have watched him the past few years. I don't care, he's not a deep threat.

He's a great route runner with less than great physical tools, who will beat defenders on intermediate routes with savvy play and great hands.


Brandon Lloyd is most certainly a deep threat. He would have 5 or 6 40+ yard catches this year if the Rams QB play wasn't terrible. I still remember the Dallas game where he burnt their DBs on back to back plays for what would have been TDs but Feeley overthrew him then under-threw him.

I also remember him burning Patrick Peterson but Bradford under-threw it which allowed Peterson to make the interception.

Lloyd's deceptive speed and elite double move make him a really dangerous deep threat.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Teams That Ignored 'Obvious' Needs... Reply with quote

goldfishwars wrote:

Carolina Panthers - Defensive Tackle

Terrell McClain and Sione Fua were both 3rd picks bought in to start right away at a decimated position in Carolina and struggled at times. With plenty of options in the 1st round, they passed on the likes of Fletcher Cox and Michael Brockers for Luke Kuechly in the 1st round which seemed fair enough. In the second, however, they had the chance to land Jerel Worthy, Devon Still or Kendall Reyes - all had 1st/2nd round grades but decided to pass and then passed on the position altogether from there on in.


Rivera and Hurney have really been defending the DTs all off-season. In the last 5 or 6 games (excluding the stat-padding Saints in week 17, where we also didn't have Charles Johnson, our main source of sacks) we allowed something like 95 rush yards per game. Our rag tag group of Fua, McClain, Neblett, Kearse, and Shirley combined for 4.5 sacks after having only 2 the entire rest of the season before that stretch. Not to mention we're getting Ron Edwards back. I think having Beason and/or Kuechly in the middle will help the run D a lot as well. We couldn't tackle for **** last year and they're two of the best in the business (assuming Kuechly's collegiate talent translates to the pros).
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