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 Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:30 pm Post subject: Coach Allen breaks down Leinart vs. Pryor, etc etc. |
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http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2012/05/02/raiders-coach-dennis-allen-on-leinartpryor-defensive-schemes-and-the-ideal-drew-brees/
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-Q: You probably hear the same things we do–people are fascinated with Pryor. Is the Leinart signing at all an indication that you don’t think Pryor’s a back-up NFL QB?
-ALLEN: Absolutely not. We’re always going to try to make moves to do whatever we feel like is going to make this football team be better. And we’ve brought another quarterback in to compete.
At the end of the day, just like anything else, we’re going to have everybody compete and the best players are going to play and that’s how we’re going to stack the depth chart up.
-Q: What has Pryor shown you in the workouts?
-ALLEN: That he has all kinds of talent. He’s not there from a mental standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint, which is true of 99% of the young quarterbacks that come into this league.
The other thing he’s shown me is, this guy’s a worker. He’s put in relentless hours and effort in preparation. He’s competing.
He’s wants to prove to everybody that he can be a quarterback for us in the National Football League. And we’re going to give him the opportunity to compete, and that’s what it’s all about.
-Q: Is there a chance down the road that you look at another position for Pryor?
-ALLEN: I would never rule anything out. But at this point in time we haven’t considered anything other than quarterback for Terrelle Pryor.
That’s what I want him focusing on–one day at a time, getting better, and trying to become the best quarterback that he can be.
-Q: And Pryor and Leinart are competing for the No. 2 slot?
-ALLEN: Absolutely.
-Q: Leinart doesn’t get the lean as the main back-up due to his experience?
-ALLEN: No, I’m not ready to concede that at all. I think that process will play itself out. I think too many times people try to pin people in and set the depth chart at this time of year.
Until we get a chance to evaluate these players and evaluation takes time, it doesn’t happen over a one mini-camp process, we’re not going to make any decisions on that.
-Q: How happy is Carson to have his old USC back-up on this team?
-ALLEN: You know what? I think it’s good for Carson. It’s kind of part of that comfort level of having a guy there that you know has got your back, guy that you can bounce some ideas off of and talk football with. |
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| Quote: | -Q: What have you seen from Darren McFadden so far? Has he been healthy so far?
-ALLEN: Yes.
-Q: Will he be out there at full speed in this next mini-camp?
-ALLEN: There’s no crystal ball to see exactly where he’s going to be at during that point in time. |
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | Quote: | -Q: What have you seen from Darren McFadden so far? Has he been healthy so far?
-ALLEN: Yes.
-Q: Will he be out there at full speed in this next mini-camp?
-ALLEN: There’s no crystal ball to see exactly where he’s going to be at during that point in time. |
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I read that a few days ago and it had me wondering if he is still not healed yet. Sounds eerily like a Hue Jackson answer. |
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NCOUGHMAN
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| TiberiusRising wrote: | | NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | Quote: | -Q: What have you seen from Darren McFadden so far? Has he been healthy so far?
-ALLEN: Yes.
-Q: Will he be out there at full speed in this next mini-camp?
-ALLEN: There’s no crystal ball to see exactly where he’s going to be at during that point in time. |
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I read that a few days ago and it had me wondering if he is still not healed yet. Sounds eerily like a Hue Jackson answer. |
yup
i guess healthy and full speed dont mean the same thing
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | TiberiusRising wrote: | | NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | Quote: | -Q: What have you seen from Darren McFadden so far? Has he been healthy so far?
-ALLEN: Yes.
-Q: Will he be out there at full speed in this next mini-camp?
-ALLEN: There’s no crystal ball to see exactly where he’s going to be at during that point in time. |
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I read that a few days ago and it had me wondering if he is still not healed yet. Sounds eerily like a Hue Jackson answer. |
yup
i guess healthy and full speed dont mean the same thing |
Benson?
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| OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | TiberiusRising wrote: | | NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | Quote: | -Q: What have you seen from Darren McFadden so far? Has he been healthy so far?
-ALLEN: Yes.
-Q: Will he be out there at full speed in this next mini-camp?
-ALLEN: There’s no crystal ball to see exactly where he’s going to be at during that point in time. |
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I read that a few days ago and it had me wondering if he is still not healed yet. Sounds eerily like a Hue Jackson answer. |
yup
i guess healthy and full speed dont mean the same thing |
Benson? |
Please dont start, there is a Benson thread already!
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| raidr4life wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | TiberiusRising wrote: | | NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | Quote: | -Q: What have you seen from Darren McFadden so far? Has he been healthy so far?
-ALLEN: Yes.
-Q: Will he be out there at full speed in this next mini-camp?
-ALLEN: There’s no crystal ball to see exactly where he’s going to be at during that point in time. |
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I read that a few days ago and it had me wondering if he is still not healed yet. Sounds eerily like a Hue Jackson answer. |
yup
i guess healthy and full speed dont mean the same thing |
Benson? |
Please dont start, there is a Benson thread already! |
Stop whining 
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Coach Allen breaks down Leinart vs. Pryor, etc etc. |
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-Q: What has Pryor shown you in the workouts?
-ALLEN: That he has all kinds of talent. He’s not there from a mental standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint, which is true of 99% of the young quarterbacks that come into this league.
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Would be nice if he had expanded on that particular comment. |
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raidr4life
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Coach Allen breaks down Leinart vs. Pryor, etc etc. |
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| Keleth wrote: | | Quote: |
-Q: What has Pryor shown you in the workouts?
-ALLEN: That he has all kinds of talent. He’s not there from a mental standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint, which is true of 99% of the young quarterbacks that come into this league.
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Would be nice if he had expanded on that particular comment. |
It means they have a new system and he doesnt know it and Lienart does and as much as everyone wants to make the signing of Lienart out to be something against Pryor, well I have news for you if Palmer struggles picking up the playbook, Lienart is insurance for him as well.
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: Coach Allen breaks down Leinart vs. Pryor, etc etc. |
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| raidr4life wrote: | | Keleth wrote: | | Quote: |
-Q: What has Pryor shown you in the workouts?
-ALLEN: That he has all kinds of talent. He’s not there from a mental standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint, which is true of 99% of the young quarterbacks that come into this league.
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Would be nice if he had expanded on that particular comment. |
It means they have a new system and he doesnt know it and Lienart does and as much as everyone wants to make the signing of Lienart out to be something against Pryor, well I have news for you if Palmer struggles picking up the playbook, Lienart is insurance for him as well. |
Yeah, people are going to take this out of context and think Allen is pertaining to his mindset, maturity, etc...when all he is talking about is the Playbook and the mental aspect of football.
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Coach Allen breaks down Leinart vs. Pryor, etc etc. |
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| Keleth wrote: | | Quote: |
-Q: What has Pryor shown you in the workouts?
-ALLEN: That he has all kinds of talent. He’s not there from a mental standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint, which is true of 99% of the young quarterbacks that come into this league.
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Would be nice if he had expanded on that particular comment. |
From the context of his answer, sounds to me like he's talking not about mental, but mental standpoint regarding his fundamentals. The way I understand his comment, you have to include the quote after the mental part.
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Coach Allen breaks down Leinart vs. Pryor, etc etc. |
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| OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | raidr4life wrote: | | Keleth wrote: | | Quote: |
-Q: What has Pryor shown you in the workouts?
-ALLEN: That he has all kinds of talent. He’s not there from a mental standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint, which is true of 99% of the young quarterbacks that come into this league.
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Would be nice if he had expanded on that particular comment. |
It means they have a new system and he doesnt know it and Lienart does and as much as everyone wants to make the signing of Lienart out to be something against Pryor, well I have news for you if Palmer struggles picking up the playbook, Lienart is insurance for him as well. |
Yeah, people are going to take this out of context and think Allen is pertaining to his mindset, maturity, etc...when all he is talking about is the Playbook and the mental aspect of football. |
You can't take it out of context because there is no real context there in the 1st place.
He could be talking about he can't grasp the system,he can't grasp the fundamentals or whatever,no one can actually say what he really means.
Which is why I said I wish he had expanded on this. |
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OakRaiders3828
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Coach Allen breaks down Leinart vs. Pryor, etc etc. |
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| Keleth wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | raidr4life wrote: | | Keleth wrote: | | Quote: |
-Q: What has Pryor shown you in the workouts?
-ALLEN: That he has all kinds of talent. He’s not there from a mental standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint, which is true of 99% of the young quarterbacks that come into this league.
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Would be nice if he had expanded on that particular comment. |
It means they have a new system and he doesnt know it and Lienart does and as much as everyone wants to make the signing of Lienart out to be something against Pryor, well I have news for you if Palmer struggles picking up the playbook, Lienart is insurance for him as well. |
Yeah, people are going to take this out of context and think Allen is pertaining to his mindset, maturity, etc...when all he is talking about is the Playbook and the mental aspect of football. |
You can't take it out of context because there is no real context there in the 1st place.
He could be talking about he can't grasp the system,he can't grasp the fundamentals or whatever,no one can actually say what he really means.
Which is why I said I wish he had expanded on this. |
He does say from a fundamental standpoint.
And the fact that he talks about how hard of a worker he is, most likely he's just referring to him learning the Playbook, reading the defense, fundamentals and so on
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:12 am Post subject: Re: Coach Allen breaks down Leinart vs. Pryor, etc etc. |
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| OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | Keleth wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | raidr4life wrote: | | Keleth wrote: | | Quote: |
-Q: What has Pryor shown you in the workouts?
-ALLEN: That he has all kinds of talent. He’s not there from a mental standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint, which is true of 99% of the young quarterbacks that come into this league.
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Would be nice if he had expanded on that particular comment. |
It means they have a new system and he doesnt know it and Lienart does and as much as everyone wants to make the signing of Lienart out to be something against Pryor, well I have news for you if Palmer struggles picking up the playbook, Lienart is insurance for him as well. |
Yeah, people are going to take this out of context and think Allen is pertaining to his mindset, maturity, etc...when all he is talking about is the Playbook and the mental aspect of football. |
You can't take it out of context because there is no real context there in the 1st place.
He could be talking about he can't grasp the system,he can't grasp the fundamentals or whatever,no one can actually say what he really means.
Which is why I said I wish he had expanded on this. |
He does say from a fundamental standpoint.
And the fact that he talks about how hard of a worker he is, most likely he's just referring to him learning the Playbook, reading the defense, fundamentals and so on |
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Am I the only one interested on his opinion in comparison to Tebow?
Not saying the Raiders want a Tebow on their team. I just want to know what he think of Pryor/Tebow comparisons, both the pros and cons of that. He mentions how hard a worker Pryor is.....well Tebow is known for hard work as well....He mentions Pryor's lack of fundamentals (at this time)...this is a problem for Tebow as well. Is Pryor's flaws more correctable or less correctable that Tebow's?
He said he has all kinds of talent. But I wonder the context of that as well. Does he mean just athletically or does he mean that ever now and then...Pryor can throw some really nice passes.
I guess we'll find out during preseason. |
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