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| Michael Huff (FS) |
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11% |
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| Matt Shaugnessy (DE) |
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22% |
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| Darrius Heyward-Bey (WR) |
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14% |
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| Denarius Moore (WR/KR) |
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29% |
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| Rolando McClain (MLB) |
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0% |
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| Lamaar Houston (DE) |
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7% |
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| Marcel Reece (FB) |
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11% |
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| Ron Bartell (CB) |
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0% |
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| Aaron Curry (OLB) |
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3% |
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OakRaiders3828
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| Marcel Reece for me again. |
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OakRaiders3828
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Yeah, I voted Reece as well
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Denarius Moore, again.
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Matt Shaugnessy, good all round DE with the ability to be a great player
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chefs are doing it. Interested to see how they do theirs though.
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Going with Moore. Dude came up huge for us this year.
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| How is Moore being voted for over DHB? He showed a ton of potential no doubt, but as it stands today DHB is the better player. |
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| LivingLegendWFC wrote: | | How is Moore being voted for over DHB? He showed a ton of potential no doubt, but as it stands today DHB is the better player. |
DHB had better stats, which doesn't necessarily mean he is the better player. Moore has way more natural talent IMO.
Moore is a better WR than DHB. DHB has better durability no doubt, and a higher top speed, but in terms of football skills no WR on our team is better than D. Moore. He has the best hands, best route runner, and is the most elusive of all our WR's. Health is his only concern similar to DMAC.
I love both Moore and DHB, but I love Moore more (moore) haha.
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| RaisinBran wrote: | | LivingLegendWFC wrote: | | How is Moore being voted for over DHB? He showed a ton of potential no doubt, but as it stands today DHB is the better player. |
DHB had better stats, which doesn't necessarily mean he is the better player. Moore has way more natural talent IMO.
Moore is a better WR than DHB. DHB has better durability no doubt, and a higher top speed, but in terms of football skills no WR on our team is better than D. Moore. He has the best hands, best route runner, and is the most elusive of all our WR's. Health is his only concern similar to DMAC.
I love both Moore and DHB, but I love Moore more (moore) haha. |
I could argue that. For one, I would have to say that DHB is the better route runner. I saw a guy who consistently had more open space between him and the defender, and thus made many more catches. That's where route running shows up - getting open.
DHB is also better in terms of durability, which you said, and quite a bit better with YAC. He's also a much tougher guy to bring down.
However I think it's certain Moore's career is on a higher arc - better sooner than DHB. The future will tell as far as that. As of today, DHB is the better performer. If Moore continues upward, it won't be long before there's a wide gap between him and our next best. But not today. |
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| holyghost wrote: | | RaisinBran wrote: | | LivingLegendWFC wrote: | | How is Moore being voted for over DHB? He showed a ton of potential no doubt, but as it stands today DHB is the better player. |
DHB had better stats, which doesn't necessarily mean he is the better player. Moore has way more natural talent IMO.
Moore is a better WR than DHB. DHB has better durability no doubt, and a higher top speed, but in terms of football skills no WR on our team is better than D. Moore. He has the best hands, best route runner, and is the most elusive of all our WR's. Health is his only concern similar to DMAC.
I love both Moore and DHB, but I love Moore more (moore) haha. |
I could argue that. For one, I would have to say that DHB is the better route runner. I saw a guy who consistently had more open space between him and the defender, and thus made many more catches. That's where route running shows up - getting open.
DHB is also better in terms of durability, which you said, better with YAC.
However I think it's certain Moore's career is on a higher arc - better sooner than DHB. The future will tell as far as that. As of today, DHB is the better performer. If Moore continues upward, it won't be long before there's a wide gap between him and our next best. But not today. |
DHB gets wide open on comeback routes because defenders respect his speed. Also, DHB had more catches because he had the most targets of any WR and played the most games of any WR.
Moore gets open on a variety of routes, not just comebacks and curls. He also had the highest ypc of any WR.
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| If we were talking long term I would understand, but ranking them off of what we know right now it has to be DHB. He's more durable, was more consistent, and imo a better route runner today. I'm not saying that Moore doesn't have skills or a sky high potential because he does, but last year DHB was the better player and our number one WR. |
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| RaisinBran wrote: | | holyghost wrote: | | RaisinBran wrote: | | LivingLegendWFC wrote: | | How is Moore being voted for over DHB? He showed a ton of potential no doubt, but as it stands today DHB is the better player. |
DHB had better stats, which doesn't necessarily mean he is the better player. Moore has way more natural talent IMO.
Moore is a better WR than DHB. DHB has better durability no doubt, and a higher top speed, but in terms of football skills no WR on our team is better than D. Moore. He has the best hands, best route runner, and is the most elusive of all our WR's. Health is his only concern similar to DMAC.
I love both Moore and DHB, but I love Moore more (moore) haha. |
I could argue that. For one, I would have to say that DHB is the better route runner. I saw a guy who consistently had more open space between him and the defender, and thus made many more catches. That's where route running shows up - getting open.
DHB is also better in terms of durability, which you said, better with YAC.
However I think it's certain Moore's career is on a higher arc - better sooner than DHB. The future will tell as far as that. As of today, DHB is the better performer. If Moore continues upward, it won't be long before there's a wide gap between him and our next best. But not today. |
DHB gets wide open on comeback routes because defenders respect his speed. Also, DHB had more catches because he had the most targets of any WR and played the most games of any WR.
Moore gets open on a variety of routes, not just comebacks and curls. He also had the highest ypc of any WR. |
That's a joke.
Potential is not greater than production. Moore may eventually become the greatest thing since slice bread, but he's not yet. At this point he is no different than Murphy, Schilens, or Ford. He showed some flash, but can he improve upon that.
DHB has.
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^^^ Wow... i'm speechless.
You just put Moore in the same category as Schillens and Murphy.......
"He showed some flash" - Biggets understatement of all time right there.
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| LivingLegendWFC wrote: | | If we were talking long term I would understand, but ranking them off of what we know right now it has to be DHB. He's more durable, was more consistent, and imo a better route runner today. I'm not saying that Moore doesn't have skills or a sky high potential because he does, but last year DHB was the better player and our number one WR. |
What routes does DHB run better than Moore? I'm curious what you think.
And I already said that DHB was more durable (is that what you mean by consistent?). If Moore played the whole season I feel like your opinion of him compared to DHB would be a lot different.
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