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VeniceBearsFan
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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webb is done IMO williams will take the LT spot in camp count it _________________ ADOPT A BEAR= CENTER ROBERTO GARZA
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raq11
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| VeniceBearsFan wrote: | | webb is done IMO williams will take the LT spot in camp count it |
thanks, Lovie, that username sure doesn't fit you at all though |
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VeniceBearsFan
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| raq11 wrote: | | VeniceBearsFan wrote: | | webb is done IMO williams will take the LT spot in camp count it |
thanks, Lovie, that username sure doesn't fit you at all though |
we need a pro at LT not a j'marcus webb _________________ ADOPT A BEAR= CENTER ROBERTO GARZA
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raq11
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| VeniceBearsFan wrote: | | raq11 wrote: | | VeniceBearsFan wrote: | | webb is done IMO williams will take the LT spot in camp count it |
thanks, Lovie, that username sure doesn't fit you at all though |
we need a pro at LT not a j'marcus webb |
how is webb not a pro? |
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blkwdw13 
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| SLCbear wrote: | Carimi will be ready to go and I think its reckless reporting to suggest otherwise......If there was any concern about his recovery, we would have absolutely added another T this offseason
.........I just hope one of the two (CW & Webb) steps up enough so that Carimi doesn't have to play the left side
I believe CW will win out and be the week one starter because it's a contract year for him......he has had some injuries but im cautiously optimistic moving forward because until this last wrist injury he made it through 20 starts. |
It's not reckless reporting and it definitely is a concern. I mean we were told last season that his injury was minor and it would only be a few weeks then it went until the end of the season until he was put on the IR late in the season and now after all off season they are saying he should be ready by the time OTAs start.
| ChicagoAl wrote: | | topwop1 wrote: | This move makes sense. Webb has not shown the ability to consistently shut down opposing teams' best pass rushers. He needs someone to push him and there's no better candidate on the squad right now than CW. Plus if you look at the guard position there seems to be an abundance of players who could play at any of those two spots along the interior; Louis, Spencer, E Williams, Rachal and maybe James Brown.
Not to mention Garza who has played guard for the majority of his NFL career. You'd also have to think Spencer would fill in at center in a pinch if anything were to happen to Garza. Just handing the job to Webb again this year would be foolish. He has to go out there and prove he's the right man for the job. May the best man win. | Half of Webb's sacks came in two games and we don't have anyone who could have handled Allen anyway (no one can much). Webb's "inconsistency" is largely overrated. The move of Williams to tackle is most likely the result of picking up two more players: Rachel and Brown, who are best suited at guard where, as you noted, we were already fairly well stocked. |
And one of Williams good games came against Allen were he pretty much shut him down. Now I'm not saying that either one is definitely better than the other only that as long as it is an even battle through out camp and preseason hopefully one turns out to be a decent LT who ever it is. _________________
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ConVict90 
Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 1889 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| So if we kick CW to LT does this mean it comes down to Louis and Rachal at LG? |
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VeniceBearsFan
Joined: 15 Feb 2010 Posts: 1818 Location: Venice, Florida
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| raq11 wrote: | | VeniceBearsFan wrote: | | raq11 wrote: | | VeniceBearsFan wrote: | | webb is done IMO williams will take the LT spot in camp count it |
thanks, Lovie, that username sure doesn't fit you at all though |
we need a pro at LT not a j'marcus webb |
how is webb not a pro? |
he's a scrub it doesn't matter how big you are if all you do is take up space. webb has been the weak point on this line and the bears would be wise to put him as a backup role _________________ ADOPT A BEAR= CENTER ROBERTO GARZA
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Slaymont Harris
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| ConVict90 wrote: | | So if we kick CW to LT does this mean it comes down to Louis and Rachal at LG? |
I think Edwin Williams would be in the running at LG and Louis at RG. That's where they played last year anyways. Rachal and Spencer would compete with both of those guys. |
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GOGRIESE 
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 14641 Location: Use to live in Chicago Now Im in Austin Texas
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| VeniceBearsFan wrote: | | raq11 wrote: | | VeniceBearsFan wrote: | | raq11 wrote: | | VeniceBearsFan wrote: | | webb is done IMO williams will take the LT spot in camp count it |
thanks, Lovie, that username sure doesn't fit you at all though |
we need a pro at LT not a j'marcus webb |
how is webb not a pro? |
he's a scrub it doesn't matter how big you are if all you do is take up space. webb has been the weak point on this line and the bears would be wise to put him as a backup role |
If he was a scrub then Mike Tice wouldnt even bother with him. |
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SLCbear 
Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 453 Location: CELTICSbasketball
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| DaMike wrote: | | SLCbear wrote: | Carimi will be ready to go and I think its reckless reporting to suggest otherwise......If there was any concern about his recovery, we would have absolutely added another T this offseason
.........I just hope one of the two (CW & Webb) steps up enough so that Carimi doesn't have to play the left side
I believe CW will win out and be the week one starter because it's a contract year for him......he has had some injuries but im cautiously optimistic moving forward because until this last wrist injury he made it through 20 starts. | We need to see if Carimi can play RT before we consider him a LT. |
I know it's a small sample size but he dominated when healthy and can play LT adequately if we need
My point is that he needs to stay on the right side where he is great, continuing to learn the position that suits his skill set best, instead of having to cover the left side......
If CW and Webb struggle, Carimi will be our LT this season.. |
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Slaymont Harris
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| SLCbear wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | SLCbear wrote: | Carimi will be ready to go and I think its reckless reporting to suggest otherwise......If there was any concern about his recovery, we would have absolutely added another T this offseason
.........I just hope one of the two (CW & Webb) steps up enough so that Carimi doesn't have to play the left side
I believe CW will win out and be the week one starter because it's a contract year for him......he has had some injuries but im cautiously optimistic moving forward because until this last wrist injury he made it through 20 starts. | We need to see if Carimi can play RT before we consider him a LT. |
I know it's a small sample size but he dominated when healthy and can play LT adequately if we need
My point is that he needs to stay on the right side where he is great, continuing to learn the position that suits his skill set best, instead of having to cover the left side......
If CW and Webb struggle, Carimi will be our LT this season.. |
I don't know where you get that Carimi "dominated" and is "great" based on two games, but i did like what I saw out of him. However, we have no idea if Carimi can adequately play LT. If he did get moved to LT this season, then we would have a hole at RT. |
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SLCbear 
Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 453 Location: CELTICSbasketball
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| blkwdw13 wrote: | | SLCbear wrote: | Carimi will be ready to go and I think its reckless reporting to suggest otherwise......If there was any concern about his recovery, we would have absolutely added another T this offseason
.........I just hope one of the two (CW & Webb) steps up enough so that Carimi doesn't have to play the left side
I believe CW will win out and be the week one starter because it's a contract year for him......he has had some injuries but im cautiously optimistic moving forward because until this last wrist injury he made it through 20 starts. |
It's not reckless reporting and it definitely is a concern. I mean we were told last season that his injury was minor and it would only be a few weeks then it went until the end of the season until he was put on the IR late in the season and now after all off season they are saying he should be ready by the time OTAs start.
| ChicagoAl wrote: | | topwop1 wrote: | This move makes sense. Webb has not shown the ability to consistently shut down opposing teams' best pass rushers. He needs someone to push him and there's no better candidate on the squad right now than CW. Plus if you look at the guard position there seems to be an abundance of players who could play at any of those two spots along the interior; Louis, Spencer, E Williams, Rachal and maybe James Brown.
Not to mention Garza who has played guard for the majority of his NFL career. You'd also have to think Spencer would fill in at center in a pinch if anything were to happen to Garza. Just handing the job to Webb again this year would be foolish. He has to go out there and prove he's the right man for the job. May the best man win. | Half of Webb's sacks came in two games and we don't have anyone who could have handled Allen anyway (no one can much). Webb's "inconsistency" is largely overrated. The move of Williams to tackle is most likely the result of picking up two more players: Rachel and Brown, who are best suited at guard where, as you noted, we were already fairly well stocked. |
And one of Williams good games came against Allen were he pretty much shut him down. Now I'm not saying that either one is definitely better than the other only that as long as it is an even battle through out camp and preseason hopefully one turns out to be a decent LT who ever it is. |
You honestly think we wouldn't have added another T this offseason if there were ANY legitimate concerns about Carimi's recovery ??
Carimi at RT and Garza at C are the only definates we have.......no way would Emery risk not bringing someone in if there was a chance Carimi couldnt go....esp with everyone breathing down his neck over how bad the Oline has been the past several seasons |
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SLCbear 
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Slaymont Harris wrote: | | SLCbear wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | SLCbear wrote: | Carimi will be ready to go and I think its reckless reporting to suggest otherwise......If there was any concern about his recovery, we would have absolutely added another T this offseason
.........I just hope one of the two (CW & Webb) steps up enough so that Carimi doesn't have to play the left side
I believe CW will win out and be the week one starter because it's a contract year for him......he has had some injuries but im cautiously optimistic moving forward because until this last wrist injury he made it through 20 starts. | We need to see if Carimi can play RT before we consider him a LT. |
I know it's a small sample size but he dominated when healthy and can play LT adequately if we need
My point is that he needs to stay on the right side where he is great, continuing to learn the position that suits his skill set best, instead of having to cover the left side......
If CW and Webb struggle, Carimi will be our LT this season.. |
I don't know where you get that Carimi "dominated" and is "great" based on two games, but i did like what I saw out of him. However, we have no idea if Carimi can adequately play LT. If he did get moved to LT this season, then we would have a hole at RT. |
What little he did play, he played great and was very dominant at times......what is there that would suggest that this wouldn't absolutely continue when he returns and gets more experience ???
He definately has the ability to be an average LT in the NFL , but because of his skill set will be a great RT....
He will be our starting LT this season if Webb/Williams fall short.. |
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DaMike
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| SLCbear wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | SLCbear wrote: | Carimi will be ready to go and I think its reckless reporting to suggest otherwise......If there was any concern about his recovery, we would have absolutely added another T this offseason
.........I just hope one of the two (CW & Webb) steps up enough so that Carimi doesn't have to play the left side
I believe CW will win out and be the week one starter because it's a contract year for him......he has had some injuries but im cautiously optimistic moving forward because until this last wrist injury he made it through 20 starts. | We need to see if Carimi can play RT before we consider him a LT. |
I know it's a small sample size but he dominated when healthy and can play LT adequately if we need
My point is that he needs to stay on the right side where he is great, continuing to learn the position that suits his skill set best, instead of having to cover the left side......
If CW and Webb struggle, Carimi will be our LT this season.. | Dominated? He was poor at best as a pass blocker. It was only a game and a half but for a 1st rounder he didnt play up to expectations. |
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VeniceBearsFan
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| DaMike wrote: | | SLCbear wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | SLCbear wrote: | Carimi will be ready to go and I think its reckless reporting to suggest otherwise......If there was any concern about his recovery, we would have absolutely added another T this offseason
.........I just hope one of the two (CW & Webb) steps up enough so that Carimi doesn't have to play the left side
I believe CW will win out and be the week one starter because it's a contract year for him......he has had some injuries but im cautiously optimistic moving forward because until this last wrist injury he made it through 20 starts. | We need to see if Carimi can play RT before we consider him a LT. |
I know it's a small sample size but he dominated when healthy and can play LT adequately if we need
My point is that he needs to stay on the right side where he is great, continuing to learn the position that suits his skill set best, instead of having to cover the left side......
If CW and Webb struggle, Carimi will be our LT this season.. | Dominated? He was poor at best as a pass blocker. It was only a game and a half but for a 1st rounder he didnt play up to expectations. |
that's false carimi showed promise and should be fine at RT but he still has to prove himself. IMO carimi is a rookie all over again _________________ ADOPT A BEAR= CENTER ROBERTO GARZA
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