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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
RabidDawgs wrote:
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Man oh man, if Jordan Cameron becomes a viable starter our offense will have gone through a total overhaul...

New QB
New RB
New RT
New TE


Don't forget RG.

except for lauvao is still starting.
your hate for him is just remarkable.


It truly is


Who are you penciling in at RG? Ryan Miller?

But he's a late round rookie. We all know that if they struggle in their first year, than they are trash.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
RabidDawgs wrote:
MarkPrice25 wrote:
Man oh man, if Jordan Cameron becomes a viable starter our offense will have gone through a total overhaul...

New QB
New RB
New RT
New TE


Don't forget RG.

except for lauvao is still starting.
your hate for him is just remarkable.


Yea, its great. Considering I did a whole thread showing how both him and Pinkston played last year. Minus all of Lauvoa's penalties, he easily outplayed Pinkston. And just to add to all of that, here's some more.

Peyton Hillis average 3.0 YPC in the A and B gap on the left side. He average 4.39 YPC in the A and B gap on the right side.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
RabidDawgs wrote:
MarkPrice25 wrote:
Man oh man, if Jordan Cameron becomes a viable starter our offense will have gone through a total overhaul...

New QB
New RB
New RT
New TE


Don't forget RG.

except for lauvao is still starting.
your hate for him is just remarkable.


What is remarkable, is that some hold on and would prefer to start a known commodity of known 1000% pure suck, than the unknown late round draft pick. The rookie couldn't possibly be worse than Lauvao so I don't get why some still want to see him starting.

Also, it seems these same posers, that WATCHED Lauvao nearly get Colt killed last year, want to see Weeden thrown to the wolves with Lauvau doing nothing to help him, and also not opening any holes for our huge investment of Richardson.

It makes no sense what so ever.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RabidDawgs wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
RabidDawgs wrote:
MarkPrice25 wrote:
Man oh man, if Jordan Cameron becomes a viable starter our offense will have gone through a total overhaul...

New QB
New RB
New RT
New TE


Don't forget RG.

except for lauvao is still starting.
your hate for him is just remarkable.


What is remarkable, is that some hold on and would prefer to start a known commodity of known 1000% pure suck, than the unknown late round draft pick. The rookie couldn't possibly be worse than Lauvao so I don't get why some still want to see him starting.

Also, it seems these same posers, that WATCHED Lauvao nearly get Colt killed last year, want to see Weeden thrown to the wolves with Lauvau doing nothing to help him, and also not opening any holes for our huge investment of Richardson.

It makes no sense what so ever.



so there is not possibility that he could have improved ofver the offseason..... he is tapped out to what he is in his 3rd year in the league 2nd as a starter?
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RabidDawgs wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
RabidDawgs wrote:
MarkPrice25 wrote:
Man oh man, if Jordan Cameron becomes a viable starter our offense will have gone through a total overhaul...

New QB
New RB
New RT
New TE


Don't forget RG.

except for lauvao is still starting.
your hate for him is just remarkable.


What is remarkable, is that some hold on and would prefer to start a known commodity of known 1000% pure suck, than the unknown late round draft pick. The rookie couldn't possibly be worse than Lauvao so I don't get why some still want to see him starting.

Also, it seems these same posers, that WATCHED Lauvao nearly get Colt killed last year, want to see Weeden thrown to the wolves with Lauvau doing nothing to help him, and also not opening any holes for our huge investment of Richardson.

It makes no sense what so ever.


no, you spew nonsensical hyperbolic [inappropriate/removed] and expect people to take your word as gospel when its clearly obvious that you have no clue what the hell you're talking about.
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you're also the type of person that likes to say ridiculous things- like all the time. by the binomial distribution, you're bound to have one success. then, after all the millions of failures, you like to rub it in that you got one thing right. which, ryan miller being the starting guard, i think is one of those ridiculous things. the FO likes lauvao.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you're also the type of person that likes to say ridiculous things- like all the time. by the binomial distribution, you're bound to have one success. then, after all the millions of failures, you like to rub it in that you got one thing right. which, ryan miller being the starting guard, i think is one of those ridiculous things. the FO likes lauvao.


Mistake I love you buddy ya gotta go easy on me with the math Econoic terms haha.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
RabidDawgs wrote:
MarkPrice25 wrote:
Man oh man, if Jordan Cameron becomes a viable starter our offense will have gone through a total overhaul...

New QB
New RB
New RT
New TE


Don't forget RG.

except for lauvao is still starting.
your hate for him is just remarkable.


Yea, its great. Considering I did a whole thread showing how both him and Pinkston played last year. Minus all of Lauvoa's penalties, he easily outplayed Pinkston. And just to add to all of that, here's some more.

Peyton Hillis average 3.0 YPC in the A and B gap on the left side. He average 4.39 YPC in the A and B gap on the right side.


You must have me confused with someone that actually thinks Pinkston is good, I am on record as saying neither are good, I just however feel that Pinkston is not quite as sucky as Lauvao.

I could care less what the geek squad statisticians put on paper, I care about what I see, and who I see performing and who I see under performing.

I said before FA started even that the Browns desperately need 3 new starters on the OLine.

We have our RT hopefully. I like the physical potential of Miller, so I think he deserves a shot to show what he can do.

Both Pinkston and Lauvao have had opportunity to show their wares, and it turned out to be snake oil in both instances. I do feel Pinkston is the better of the 2 on the field, so by default, that leaves Lauvao on the bench, which is the only place he has a shot in the NFL, he really is lucky to be in the league at all.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you're also the type of person that likes to say ridiculous things- like all the time. by the binomial distribution, you're bound to have one success. then, after all the millions of failures, you like to rub it in that you got one thing right. which, ryan miller being the starting guard, i think is one of those ridiculous things. the FO likes lauvao.


Mistake I love you buddy ya gotta go easy on me with the math Econoic terms haha.


if the probability of success for a given trial [i.e. Rabid getting a crazy prediction right] is positive [even if its super small], as n goes to infinity [i.e. the more and more he makes more and more predictions]--- the probability converges to one that he gets at least one success [a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then]
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you're also the type of person that likes to say ridiculous things- like all the time. by the binomial distribution, you're bound to have one success. then, after all the millions of failures, you like to rub it in that you got one thing right. which, ryan miller being the starting guard, i think is one of those ridiculous things. the FO likes lauvao.


Judge much?

Anyway, see the sig bra, then remember.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RabidDawgs wrote:
bulldog wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
RabidDawgs wrote:
MarkPrice25 wrote:
Man oh man, if Jordan Cameron becomes a viable starter our offense will have gone through a total overhaul...

New QB
New RB
New RT
New TE


Don't forget RG.

except for lauvao is still starting.
your hate for him is just remarkable.


Yea, its great. Considering I did a whole thread showing how both him and Pinkston played last year. Minus all of Lauvoa's penalties, he easily outplayed Pinkston. And just to add to all of that, here's some more.

Peyton Hillis average 3.0 YPC in the A and B gap on the left side. He average 4.39 YPC in the A and B gap on the right side.


You must have me confused with someone that actually thinks Pinkston is good, I am on record as saying neither are good, I just however feel that Pinkston is not quite as sucky as Lauvao.

I could care less what the geek squad statisticians put on paper, I care about what I see, and who I see performing and who I see under performing.

I said before FA started even that the Browns desperately need 3 new starters on the OLine.

We have our RT hopefully. I like the physical potential of Miller, so I think he deserves a shot to show what he can do.

Both Pinkston and Lauvao have had opportunity to show their wares, and it turned out to be snake oil in both instances. I do feel Pinkston is the better of the 2 on the field, so by default, that leaves Lauvao on the bench, which is the only place he has a shot in the NFL, he really is lucky to be in the league at all.


dude a day after the draft you said the line was fixed.
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mistakebytehlak wrote:
RabidDawgs wrote:
bulldog wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
RabidDawgs wrote:
MarkPrice25 wrote:
Man oh man, if Jordan Cameron becomes a viable starter our offense will have gone through a total overhaul...

New QB
New RB
New RT
New TE


Don't forget RG.

except for lauvao is still starting.
your hate for him is just remarkable.


Yea, its great. Considering I did a whole thread showing how both him and Pinkston played last year. Minus all of Lauvoa's penalties, he easily outplayed Pinkston. And just to add to all of that, here's some more.

Peyton Hillis average 3.0 YPC in the A and B gap on the left side. He average 4.39 YPC in the A and B gap on the right side.


You must have me confused with someone that actually thinks Pinkston is good, I am on record as saying neither are good, I just however feel that Pinkston is not quite as sucky as Lauvao.

I could care less what the geek squad statisticians put on paper, I care about what I see, and who I see performing and who I see under performing.

I said before FA started even that the Browns desperately need 3 new starters on the OLine.

We have our RT hopefully. I like the physical potential of Miller, so I think he deserves a shot to show what he can do.

Both Pinkston and Lauvao have had opportunity to show their wares, and it turned out to be snake oil in both instances. I do feel Pinkston is the better of the 2 on the field, so by default, that leaves Lauvao on the bench, which is the only place he has a shot in the NFL, he really is lucky to be in the league at all.


dude a day after the draft you said the line was fixed.


I said addressed, and hopefully fixed. I never said fixed.

I was, and am, happy that it was addressed.

Reading with understanding it paramount.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RabidDawgs wrote:
bulldog wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
RabidDawgs wrote:
MarkPrice25 wrote:
Man oh man, if Jordan Cameron becomes a viable starter our offense will have gone through a total overhaul...

New QB
New RB
New RT
New TE


Don't forget RG.

except for lauvao is still starting.
your hate for him is just remarkable.


Yea, its great. Considering I did a whole thread showing how both him and Pinkston played last year. Minus all of Lauvoa's penalties, he easily outplayed Pinkston. And just to add to all of that, here's some more.

Peyton Hillis average 3.0 YPC in the A and B gap on the left side. He average 4.39 YPC in the A and B gap on the right side.


You must have me confused with someone that actually thinks Pinkston is good, I am on record as saying neither are good, I just however feel that Pinkston is not quite as sucky as Lauvao.

I could care less what the geek squad statisticians put on paper, I care about what I see, and who I see performing and who I see under performing.

I said before FA started even that the Browns desperately need 3 new starters on the OLine.

We have our RT hopefully. I like the physical potential of Miller, so I think he deserves a shot to show what he can do.

Both Pinkston and Lauvao have had opportunity to show their wares, and it turned out to be snake oil in both instances. I do feel Pinkston is the better of the 2 on the field, so by default, that leaves Lauvao on the bench, which is the only place he has a shot in the NFL, he really is lucky to be in the league at all.


Seriously.......? Pinkston was a rookie who by any other means would not have seen the field, but because of Injury the kid was forced into play... and considering the circumstances I think he held his own pretty good. Lav was in his first year as a starter. was he inconsistant hell yes. but you cannot say that they had their shot...... that is complete and utter BS
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mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
you're also the type of person that likes to say ridiculous things- like all the time. by the binomial distribution, you're bound to have one success. then, after all the millions of failures, you like to rub it in that you got one thing right. which, ryan miller being the starting guard, i think is one of those ridiculous things. the FO likes lauvao.


Mistake I love you buddy ya gotta go easy on me with the math Econoic terms haha.


if the probability of success for a given trial [i.e. Rabid getting a crazy prediction right] is positive [even if its super small], as n goes to infinity [i.e. the more and more he makes more and more predictions]--- the probability converges to one that he gets at least one success [a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then]


32 over Pi?
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Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
RabidDawgs wrote:
bulldog wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
RabidDawgs wrote:
MarkPrice25 wrote:
Man oh man, if Jordan Cameron becomes a viable starter our offense will have gone through a total overhaul...

New QB
New RB
New RT
New TE


Don't forget RG.

except for lauvao is still starting.
your hate for him is just remarkable.


Yea, its great. Considering I did a whole thread showing how both him and Pinkston played last year. Minus all of Lauvoa's penalties, he easily outplayed Pinkston. And just to add to all of that, here's some more.

Peyton Hillis average 3.0 YPC in the A and B gap on the left side. He average 4.39 YPC in the A and B gap on the right side.


You must have me confused with someone that actually thinks Pinkston is good, I am on record as saying neither are good, I just however feel that Pinkston is not quite as sucky as Lauvao.

I could care less what the geek squad statisticians put on paper, I care about what I see, and who I see performing and who I see under performing.

I said before FA started even that the Browns desperately need 3 new starters on the OLine.

We have our RT hopefully. I like the physical potential of Miller, so I think he deserves a shot to show what he can do.

Both Pinkston and Lauvao have had opportunity to show their wares, and it turned out to be snake oil in both instances. I do feel Pinkston is the better of the 2 on the field, so by default, that leaves Lauvao on the bench, which is the only place he has a shot in the NFL, he really is lucky to be in the league at all.


Seriously.......? Pinkston was a rookie who by any other means would not have seen the field, but because of Injury the kid was forced into play... and considering the circumstances I think he held his own pretty good. Lav was in his first year as a starter. was he inconsistant hell yes. but you cannot say that they had their shot...... that is complete and utter BS


These guys play in the NFL, its not on the job training. How many QBs and RBs do you want to get crunched up while these guys TRY to get better. They have shown they can't get it done. If they want to be in a game trying to improve, then let them go to the arena league.
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