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RedGreenShow

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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:55 pm Post subject: Best 4-3 RDE's?

Trying to get a head start on next year.. Based on pass rushing/run stopping capabilities, who are the best overall DE's(preferably right end) in the 2013 NFL Draft? Who goes first?
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Best 4-3 RDE's?

RedGreenShow wrote:

Trying to get a head start on next year.. Based on pass rushing/run stopping capabilities, who are the best overall DE's(preferably right end) in the 2013 NFL Draft? Who goes first?

Trying to get rid of MJ93 already? Laughing

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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:15 pm Post subject: Re: Best 4-3 RDE's?

TheVillain112 wrote:

RedGreenShow wrote:

Trying to get a head start on next year.. Based on pass rushing/run stopping capabilities, who are the best overall DE's(preferably right end) in the 2013 NFL Draft? Who goes first?

Trying to get rid of MJ93 already? Laughing

Hey, never too early to start.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: Best 4-3 RDE's?

RedGreenShow wrote:

Trying to get a head start on next year.. Based on pass rushing/run stopping capabilities, who are the best overall DE's(preferably right end) in the 2013 NFL Draft? Who goes first?

This class is stacked with them...

The obvious guys are...

Sam Montgomery
Barkevious Mingo (though he's got some growin to do if he's gonna be a DE)
Alex Okafor
Devin Taylor
Jackson Jeffcoat (See note on Mingo)
Conelius Carradine (I see a JPP like year this year. Kids gonna be a stud, similarly athletic)
William Gholston (Though i'm not convinced he isn't all hype, i need to see more games of him)
Bjorne Werner (may be a LE or RE i'm not sure)
Dion Jordan (May be a stretch to be a RE, but he has the frame for it, it'll take some work for him to get big enough for it though)

All players could push the 1st round.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject:

My favorites guys that fit your bill are Barkevious Mingo, Sam Montgomery, William Gholston, and Margus Hunt. Mingo needs to fill out more but he's still only 21 years old, he has time to grow.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: Best 4-3 RDE's?

Duffman57 wrote:

RedGreenShow wrote:

Trying to get a head start on next year.. Based on pass rushing/run stopping capabilities, who are the best overall DE's(preferably right end) in the 2013 NFL Draft? Who goes first?

Brandon Jenkins FSU and John Simon of tOSU might be worthy additions to be on the watch list also
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:16 am Post subject: Re: Best 4-3 RDE's?

DawgSoldier wrote:

Duffman57 wrote:

RedGreenShow wrote:

Trying to get a head start on next year.. Based on pass rushing/run stopping capabilities, who are the best overall DE's(preferably right end) in the 2013 NFL Draft? Who goes first?

Brandon Jenkins FSU and John Simon of tOSU might be worthy additions to be on the watch list also

I've been notorious for hating Jenkins. I think Jenkins shouldn't be drafted before the 4th round. He just isn't any good IMO, there's nothing that makes him a good NFL player....
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:36 am Post subject:

skrILL wrote:

My favorites guys that fit your bill are Barkevious Mingo, Sam Montgomery, William Gholston, and Margus Hunt. Mingo needs to fill out more but he's still only 21 years old, he has time to grow.

Hunt doesn't strike me as a 4-3 RDE...a 3-4 RDE? Yes.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:34 am Post subject: Re: Best 4-3 RDE's?

Duffman57 wrote:

RedGreenShow wrote:

Trying to get a head start on next year.. Based on pass rushing/run stopping capabilities, who are the best overall DE's(preferably right end) in the 2013 NFL Draft? Who goes first?

Lots of these guys are strong side ends I think.
Ghoulston
Hunt 3-4 end
Taylor
Werner
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:57 am Post subject:

jrry32 wrote:

skrILL wrote:

My favorites guys that fit your bill are Barkevious Mingo, Sam Montgomery, William Gholston, and Margus Hunt. Mingo needs to fill out more but he's still only 21 years old, he has time to grow.

Hunt doesn't strike me as a 4-3 RDE...a 3-4 RDE? Yes.

I think he can play both. Hunt is a freak, with his size/speed/athleticism combo, he is not limited to any one scheme.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject:

skrILL wrote:

jrry32 wrote:

skrILL wrote:

My favorites guys that fit your bill are Barkevious Mingo, Sam Montgomery, William Gholston, and Margus Hunt. Mingo needs to fill out more but he's still only 21 years old, he has time to grow.

Hunt doesn't strike me as a 4-3 RDE...a 3-4 RDE? Yes.

I think he can play both. Hunt is a freak, with his size/speed/athleticism combo, he is not limited to any one scheme.

Hunt is freaky but he's not going to play 4-3 RDE. He'd play LDE in the 4-3.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject:

jrry32 wrote:

skrILL wrote:

jrry32 wrote:

skrILL wrote:

My favorites guys that fit your bill are Barkevious Mingo, Sam Montgomery, William Gholston, and Margus Hunt. Mingo needs to fill out more but he's still only 21 years old, he has time to grow.

Hunt doesn't strike me as a 4-3 RDE...a 3-4 RDE? Yes.

I think he can play both. Hunt is a freak, with his size/speed/athleticism combo, he is not limited to any one scheme.

Hunt is freaky but he's not going to play 4-3 RDE. He'd play LDE in the 4-3.

Why can't he play either? Just curious to see your reasoning behind that.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject:

skrILL wrote:

jrry32 wrote:

skrILL wrote:

jrry32 wrote:

skrILL wrote:

My favorites guys that fit your bill are Barkevious Mingo, Sam Montgomery, William Gholston, and Margus Hunt. Mingo needs to fill out more but he's still only 21 years old, he has time to grow.

Hunt doesn't strike me as a 4-3 RDE...a 3-4 RDE? Yes.

I think he can play both. Hunt is a freak, with his size/speed/athleticism combo, he is not limited to any one scheme.

Hunt is freaky but he's not going to play 4-3 RDE. He'd play LDE in the 4-3.

Why can't he play either? Just curious to see your reasoning behind that.

Justin Smith could play 4-3 RDE too and did. But you put guys in both the best place for them to succeed and the best place for your team to succeed.

That's why.

It has nothing to do with him being incapable, he just won't be asked to play there.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:12 pm Post subject:

skrILL wrote:

jrry32 wrote:

skrILL wrote:

jrry32 wrote:

skrILL wrote:

My favorites guys that fit your bill are Barkevious Mingo, Sam Montgomery, William Gholston, and Margus Hunt. Mingo needs to fill out more but he's still only 21 years old, he has time to grow.

Hunt doesn't strike me as a 4-3 RDE...a 3-4 RDE? Yes.

I think he can play both. Hunt is a freak, with his size/speed/athleticism combo, he is not limited to any one scheme.

Hunt is freaky but he's not going to play 4-3 RDE. He'd play LDE in the 4-3.

Why can't he play either? Just curious to see your reasoning behind that.

He's an even more athletic JJ Watt. I don't think he's fast enough to play RE, but he'd be freakish as a 5T or LE.

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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Best 4-3 RDE's?

Duffman57 wrote:

DawgSoldier wrote:

Duffman57 wrote:

RedGreenShow wrote:

Trying to get a head start on next year.. Based on pass rushing/run stopping capabilities, who are the best overall DE's(preferably right end) in the 2013 NFL Draft? Who goes first?

Brandon Jenkins FSU and John Simon of tOSU might be worthy additions to be on the watch list also

I've been notorious for hating Jenkins. I think Jenkins shouldn't be drafted before the 4th round. He just isn't any good IMO, there's nothing that makes him a good NFL player....

And JPP wasn't that well known befor he blew up 1 year at South Florida. Point being One season can make or break a prospect.
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