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JammerHammer21
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Watching that reminded me just how excited I am that the Rams got Watkins.  |
Was actually really impressed with how he handled Jones. |
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jrry32
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| JammerHammer21 wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: |
Watching that reminded me just how excited I am that the Rams got Watkins. |
Was actually really impressed with how he handled Jones. |
Yep. He shouldn't have played Tackle but he played pretty well. Has all the tools to be a great guard. I love that play where I think it was him vs. Jones on a draw and he literally just threw Jones onto the ground next to him.
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JammerHammer21
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| jrry32 wrote: | | JammerHammer21 wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: |
Watching that reminded me just how excited I am that the Rams got Watkins. |
Was actually really impressed with how he handled Jones. |
Yep. He shouldn't have played Tackle but he played pretty well. Has all the tools to be a great guard. I love that play where I think it was him vs. Jones on a draw and he literally just threw Jones onto the ground next to him. |
Jones was really getting thrown around in the run game and Lattimore made him look absolutely silly at one point. |
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jrry32
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| JammerHammer21 wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: | | JammerHammer21 wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: |
Watching that reminded me just how excited I am that the Rams got Watkins. |
Was actually really impressed with how he handled Jones. |
Yep. He shouldn't have played Tackle but he played pretty well. Has all the tools to be a great guard. I love that play where I think it was him vs. Jones on a draw and he literally just threw Jones onto the ground next to him. |
Jones was really getting thrown around in the run game and Lattimore made him look absolutely silly at one point. |
Lattimore does that to a lot of players lol. I wish he could stay healthy.
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:59 am Post subject: |
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| jrry32 wrote: | | JammerHammer21 wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: | | JammerHammer21 wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: |
Watching that reminded me just how excited I am that the Rams got Watkins. |
Was actually really impressed with how he handled Jones. |
Yep. He shouldn't have played Tackle but he played pretty well. Has all the tools to be a great guard. I love that play where I think it was him vs. Jones on a draw and he literally just threw Jones onto the ground next to him. |
Jones was really getting thrown around in the run game and Lattimore made him look absolutely silly at one point. |
Lattimore does that to a lot of players lol. I wish he could stay healthy. |
I vivdly remember a 5'8 180 CB knocking Lattimore out.
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jrry32
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| Cheesehead430 wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: | | JammerHammer21 wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: | | JammerHammer21 wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: |
Watching that reminded me just how excited I am that the Rams got Watkins. |
Was actually really impressed with how he handled Jones. |
Yep. He shouldn't have played Tackle but he played pretty well. Has all the tools to be a great guard. I love that play where I think it was him vs. Jones on a draw and he literally just threw Jones onto the ground next to him. |
Jones was really getting thrown around in the run game and Lattimore made him look absolutely silly at one point. |
Lattimore does that to a lot of players lol. I wish he could stay healthy. |
I vivdly remember a 5'8 180 CB knocking Lattimore out. |
Ok? He caught him with a helmet to the jaw when Lattimore was turning up field, it was a nice hit. Not sure how it(or Reid's size) is relevant.
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Mingo needs time to be polished but like has been said his upside is beyond scary. If he gets paired up on a bad team with a good pass rusher like the Vikings, and he could learn and be polished, he will be an all star for yrsto come
I still have trouble figuring out where I like him more, I feel his a little more limited in the 4-3 than in the 3-4.
3-4 or 4-3 for Mingo?
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JammerHammer21
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| willy_law wrote: | Mingo needs time to be polished but like has been said his upside is beyond scary. If he gets paired up on a bad team with a good pass rusher like the Vikings, and he could learn and be polished, he will be an all star for yrsto come
I still have trouble figuring out where I like him more, I feel his a little more limited in the 4-3 than in the 3-4.
3-4 or 4-3 for Mingo? |
His speed in a 3-4 would be terrifying. His closing speed jaw dropping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNp3mHsU3kI
5:52. Unbelievable. |
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willy_law
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| JammerHammer21 wrote: | | willy_law wrote: | Mingo needs time to be polished but like has been said his upside is beyond scary. If he gets paired up on a bad team with a good pass rusher like the Vikings, and he could learn and be polished, he will be an all star for yrsto come
I still have trouble figuring out where I like him more, I feel his a little more limited in the 4-3 than in the 3-4.
3-4 or 4-3 for Mingo? |
His speed in a 3-4 would be terrifying. His closing speed jaw dropping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNp3mHsU3kI
5:52. Unbelievable. |
thats what makes him soo scary, i don't think he has the best pass rush moves to be a 4-3 end and he isn't a guyw ho is going to bull doze you, 3-4 would def be his best place but then it comes to how effective can he be when not rushing the passer?
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Falastine
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I'll take Jarvis Jones here all day everyday. Mingo is thin, raw, showcases no hand-play against OTs, and his tackling form is extremely poor. He's a tremendous athlete, but it takes more than that in the NFL.
In fact, I prefer Sam Montgomery to Mingo as well at this point.
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Falastine
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| willy_law wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weoTTVD3yBY&feature=related
Jones has a field day vs Florida. Very impressive. his use of the inside/outside fake and then the swim is scary good. |
Jones has better hands and moves than Mingo. He's also stronger, sheds blocks better, and IMO, shows better against the run.
He's also a pretty good athlete in his own right, as well.
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Duffman57
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Falastine wrote: | | willy_law wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weoTTVD3yBY&feature=related
Jones has a field day vs Florida. Very impressive. his use of the inside/outside fake and then the swim is scary good. |
Jones has better hands and moves than Mingo. He's also stronger, sheds blocks better, and IMO, shows better against the run.
He's also a pretty good athlete in his own right, as well. |
He's not even close in Strength and vs. the run skills to Mingo. Mingo is clearly better, no question.
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jrry32
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Duffman57 wrote: | | Falastine wrote: | | willy_law wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weoTTVD3yBY&feature=related
Jones has a field day vs Florida. Very impressive. his use of the inside/outside fake and then the swim is scary good. |
Jones has better hands and moves than Mingo. He's also stronger, sheds blocks better, and IMO, shows better against the run.
He's also a pretty good athlete in his own right, as well. |
He's not even close in Strength and vs. the run skills to Mingo. Mingo is clearly better, no question. |
Yea, I disagree and agree with Falastine. Jones is better vs. the run especially if you watch his games from the second half of the season.
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JammerHammer21
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Jones has great speed, but I don't see the type of burst off the end from Jones that I see from Mingo. I think Mingo is going to have an outstanding season. |
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