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turtle28
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 Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject: Pete Prisco: Polumalu- overrrated |
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http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/19066749/top-100-nfl-players:-no-influence-here-other-than-scouts-film
| Quote: | | Yes, he's a good player. No, he isn't as good as most think. He's good in the run game, but he has issues in coverage. |
I guess he's knocking Troy for being a freelancer here?? "he isn't as good as most think." ?? Huh? 
Troy is a great tackler, great in run support and one of the best play making DBs in the entire NFL. No, he's not a great coverage safety, I guess Pete is right there, but that's why Troy plays SS and NOT FS. FS's are the safeties that are good coverage guys, SS's are the guys who are an extension of your LB corp.
Ughhh, his whole list just pi$$ed me right off!  He included 17 line backers but didn't include London Fletcher who led the league in tackles last year? What! haha
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Pete Prisco: Polumalu- overrrated |
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| turtle28 wrote: | http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/19066749/top-100-nfl-players:-no-influence-here-other-than-scouts-film
| Quote: | | Yes, he's a good player. No, he isn't as good as most think. He's good in the run game, but he has issues in coverage. |
I guess he's knocking Troy for being a freelancer here?? "he isn't as good as most think." ?? Huh?
Troy is a great tackler, great in run support and one of the best play making DBs in the entire NFL. No, he's not a great coverage safety, I guess Pete is right there, but that's why Troy plays SS and NOT FS. FS's are the safeties that are good coverage guys, SS's are the guys who are an extension of your LB corp.
Ughhh, his whole list just pi$$ed me right off! He included 17 line backers but didn't include London Fletcher who led the league in tackles last year? What! haha |
I personally wouldn't take too much stock into a guy that had Eli Manning not even ranked last year to moving him all the way up to 15. It's obvious this guy simply goes with which way the wind happens to be blowing at the current time. I really have no problem with Eli being at 15, what I do have a problem with is that he wasn 't even ranked in the top 100 last year. Additionally, he has a few other guys unranked that went top 10 as well. His list has some serious flaws in it, IMO, but he just showed is ignorance by putting it out there...as they say--his funeral, I guess!
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Prisco and Judge are two of the biggest jokes when it comes to "expert" football analysis....and I thought that long before this.
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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I do not respect Prisco since his comments on Polamalu last year....It was a big disrespect to Polamalu.
And he ranked James Harrison 99th....99
Seriously, Prisco is an idiot
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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But really, Polamalu did not have an amazing season last year. Recently, he has been weaker in coverage than before.
James Harrison was at 99 because he was hurt a lot last year and is aging.
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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The guy has Ed Reed 15th... That should tell you all you need to know about Prisco... Reed is the 4th best player on his own defense at this point...
Anyway Prisco has always been a know-nothing... I proved him wrong when he published my stuff 4 years ago and then purposely misquoted me to try and make himself look better.
Prisco doesn't understand Polamalu's game and doesn't understand how to break down a simple Cover 3. So when he makes claims like "I broke down scouts film to arrive at this conclusion" I can't help but laugh.
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steelcurtain29
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't this about the 9th time he's said this? At this point, It's not worth even posting a link to anything this dude gets. He's not worth my time.
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelerspower wrote: | | Seriously, Prisco is an idiot |
Must be a genius idiot. Look at all the conversation he has gotten outta his articles. Job done.
Sorry, not trying to say anything towards you power, but i dont get why some people take so many writers so seriously. THEY WRITE TO GET REACTION. Love em or hate em, you reading and writing about it gets them paid. Everyone seems to hate Peter King....hating Peter King fills that mans pockets. |
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Dcash4 wrote: | | Steelerspower wrote: | | Seriously, Prisco is an idiot |
Must be a genius idiot. Look at all the conversation he has gotten outta his articles. Job done.
Sorry, not trying to say anything towards you power, but i dont get why some people take so many writers so seriously. THEY WRITE TO GET REACTION. Love em or hate em, you reading and writing about it gets them paid. Everyone seems to hate Peter King....hating Peter King fills that mans pockets. |
Truth. All truth.
That said, Prisco may know how get a reaction, but the guy knows - about football and the men who play the game.
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Overrated in what sense? Troy is a tremendous playmaker and very aggressive in attacking the football. His closing speed used to be something special and almost unworldy. His tackling form has alway been an issue with me. I have strongly voiced that many times. SS/FS and whoever is more in coverage versus the box is no longer applicable in today's game.
Troy has been getting toasted in coverage for the last 3 seasons. He is agambler and will undercut routes and freelance which leaves his area of responsibility wide open. His speed is not as it once was and I honestly think he will retire in the next 2 years or with a SB victory, whichever comes first. I love him but it is time to start developing someone behind Troy who may have similar traits/abilities.
If Spence can play at 218 and improve his speed to high 4.5ish, I see him being our next great Safety. I don't care what the coaches say, I feel he can be a monster at ILB or Safety.
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Pete Prickso wrote: | hmmm....let's see here...I'm a talentless hack who really doesn't know much about the sports I cover....what can I do to generate some website hits.
OH...I know what I can do, I'll write a hack piece about a really popular football player who plays for a team with one of the largest and most dedicated fanbases in all of sports, that way, when I p|ss them off, they'll post and repost a link to my hack piece, and I'll generate website hits.... |
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure Prisco made the same comments back in 08 when Troy was having arguably the best year in coverage of any safety.
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| BlaqOptic wrote: | The guy has Ed Reed 15th... That should tell you all you need to know about Prisco... Reed is the 4th best player on his own defense at this point...
Anyway Prisco has always been a know-nothing... I proved him wrong when he published my stuff 4 years ago and then purposely misquoted me to try and make himself look better.
Prisco doesn't understand Polamalu's game and doesn't understand how to break down a simple Cover 3. So when he makes claims like "I broke down scouts film to arrive at this conclusion" I can't help but laugh. |
I remember that. I consider Prisco the ideal American-someone who gets paid a lot of money to comment on things he knows nothing about. I would love that job.
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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It's like Prisco is making a revelation that Steeler fans don't know about Polamalu's coverage ability.  So he says that he isn't as good as most think yet he still has him as the top rated SS in that list? Man, I guess the league really has terrible strong safeties right Pete? All those fans who think he is overrated would love to have a player with half the ability that Polamalu has had over the years on their team.
I don't have a problem with people's negative opinons on Steeler players if they can give good examples. All Prisco does is harp on Polamalu's coverage ability and continues to ignore everything else he brings to the table like the rest of the people who believe Polamalu is overrated.
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| stillersenat wrote: | | BlaqOptic wrote: | The guy has Ed Reed 15th... That should tell you all you need to know about Prisco... Reed is the 4th best player on his own defense at this point...
Anyway Prisco has always been a know-nothing... I proved him wrong when he published my stuff 4 years ago and then purposely misquoted me to try and make himself look better.
Prisco doesn't understand Polamalu's game and doesn't understand how to break down a simple Cover 3. So when he makes claims like "I broke down scouts film to arrive at this conclusion" I can't help but laugh. |
I remember that. I consider Prisco the ideal American-someone who gets paid a lot of money to comment on things he knows nothing about. I would love that job. |
I wouldn't. I wouldn't sell out to publicly make a fool of myself.
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