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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:08 am    Post subject: WiB's NBA Trade Deadline Breakdown & Analysis Reply with quote

With the recent passing of the NBA Trade Deadline, the landscape of the NBA changed a little bit. It was a very busy day for the league as it saw the most movement in over 25 years as 37 players were dealt in 11 trades; over half the teams in the league were involved in at least one trade.

I figured it was necessary to provide you all with a review of each trade which consists of: the overall trade, a summary of what each team received/traded away, how it affects the future along with who I feel won the trade from a win-now approach and looking ahead to the future.

All comments are encouraged. Thanks for your time in viewing/reading this, it's much appreciated.

WiB's NBA Trade Deadline Breakdown & Analysis



: PG Goran Dragic & SG Zoran Dragic
: SF Danny Granger, SF John Salmons & 2 1st Round Picks
: PG Norris Cole, C Justin Hamilton & PF Shawne Williams

Breakdown: In the most poised deal of the deadline, Goran Dragic along with his brother were shipped off to Miami after a fallout in Phoenix. Goran has seen a dramatic cut in production this season due to the crowded backcourt along with Eric Bledsoe and Isaiah Thomas. Only a day or two before the deadline, Dragic demanded a trade and Phoenix granted his wish.

A handful of teams inquired about the underrated point guard, but the Heat were the team that ultimately landed the 3rd Team All-NBA guard from last season. Dragic gives the Heat a great offensive guard to team up with Dwyane Wade in their backcourt. He will give a boost to their offense and make them a more well-rounded team as they try to make a late playoff push. Dragic will excel as the maestro of that pick and roll offense. They currently hold the 7th seed in the East despite a 23-31 record. His brother Zoran was also acquired. He hasn't seen much playing time this season, but the potential is there.

What Phoenix got in return was decent value for the Dragic brothers. Headlined by 2 first round picks, one of which is top 7 protected in 2017 along with an unprotected pick many years away in 2021. Granger still hasn't been able to return to his old form, before his injury issues, but he can still provide efficient defense along with a good scorer off the bench. John Salmons is expected to be waived whereas Granger has a $2.2 player option for next season.

While they were not a big factor in the deal at all, the Pelicans were able to flip Salmons for 3 young players. Norris Cole, the biggest name of the trio. Although he has struggled shooting the ball this season, he can move the ball effectively and drive to the basket for points. A much needed pickup after Holliday aggravated the stress reaction in his leg. The other pieces acquired in this trade served as "add-ins". I still like the deal for New Orleans as they evidently swapped Salmons for Cole.

You would have to think that the Heat won this trade. With the unfortunate news of Chris Bosh's situation, that would've made Miami very desperate to put someone with the aging Wade. Dragic will be a great fit for the Heat. The only downfall of the deal on their side is whether or not he will re-sign. Even if he doesn't, they still got a legitimate point guard who will propel their playoff chances exponentially in the weak Eastern Conference. They didn't give up much, minus the 2 1st round picks which are spaced out by many years. I feel like Phoenix could've gotten more back, but if the hit on the first round pick in 2017, that will show how this trade panned out for them. However, at least Phoenix was able t get some compensation for Dragic who would leave this off season regardless.

Winner: Miami Heat

: PG Isaiah Thomas
: SG Marcus Thornton & 1st Round Pick (Cavaliers)

Breakdown: The Suns weren't done when they traded Dragic, in a late deadline deal they shipped off season acquisition, Isaiah Thomas, to Boston. Danny Ainge and the Celtics were the first team to contact Thomas this past off season while he was a free agent.

The Celtics now have a very good, young rotation of 3 guards with Marcus Smart, Avery Bradley and Thomas. Smart has been playing very good as of late and seems to be reaching that potential that made him the 6th overall pick in this past NBA draft. Thomas actually has been more efficient with the ball than Dragic this season. He has seen a career high from 3 point range, hitting nearly 40% of shots behind the arc. He gets to the free throw line a lot and has cut his turnovers by 1 a game from last season. It'll be interesting to see how the Celtics utilize all 3 guards. However, they definitely got very good value for what they gave up. Thomas is on year one of a three year contract.

Phoenix clearly wanted to abandon the "Point Guardians of the Galaxy" system which used 3 point guards; first it was Dragic to go, then they tradd Thomas later on. They acquired a later first round pick in this year's draft which belongs to the Cavaliers. Along with the pick, Marcus Thornton was brought in as well. Thornton is a very good scoring option off the bench who has shot very well from behind the arc this season.

Acquiring Thomas clearly was a great move for the Celtics when you see what they gave up, a late 1st round pick and a good role player for a young, starting caliber point guard. Thornton ate up valuable minutes which should've been given to James Young, so that move in itself could turn out good for Boston. As I said, it'll be interesting to see how they split the minutes between: Bradley, Smart and Thomas, but the 3 ill be very productive for the Celtics. The Celtics are only one and a half games out of a playoff spot, this move could propel them into contention.

Winner: Boston Celtics

: PF Jonas Jerebko & SF Luigi Datome
: SF Tayshaun Prince

Breakdown: The biggest headline of this trade is Tayshaun Prince returning to the Motor City where he played his first 10+ seasons in the league. In return, the Celtics got back two European forwards.

In the crowded frontcourt that the Pistons had in Detroit, Jonas Jerebko didn't see much playing time. However, he was very proficient shooting the ball accumulating a field goal percentage of 46%, while shooting 39% from behind the arc which is obviously very good for a big man. He doesn't offer much on the defensive side, but he can be a solid rebounder. Should be a solid contributor off the bench in Boston. Datome came to the NBA last year ago after being named the MVP in an Italian league. He hasn't seen much playing time or success this season. However, he has improved his field goal percentage exponentially from last season. It's hard to succeed in the NBA as a wing when you can't shoot the 3 ball, which Datome cannot do. Probably won't be used anymore than he was with the Pistons.

Tayshaun Prince surely isn't the same player he was when he last played on the Pistons. He is still a pretty good defender, but his waning athleticism prevents him from being the elite defender that he once was. Detroit sits only 1 game out of a playoff spot, so maybe the experience and veteran leadership can provide them a boost.

This trade wasn't one of the big headliners, but it's nice to see Prince return to the place where he made his name and find a stable home after being traded twice in a 2 month span. Jerebko has the most potential to succeed of anyone in this trade, but Boston has a pretty crowded frontcourt just as Detroit did.

Winner: Push

: PF Kevin Garnett
: PF Thaddeus Young

Breakdown: Like Tayshaun Prince, Kevin Garnett also returned to his former team where he made his name. The Timberwolves are dead-last in the Western Conference, so this this trade was more so for the fans, the organization and for Garnett than anything else. In exchange, the Nets received a younger forward in Thaddeus Young.

At 38 years old, Garnett is nowhere near the player that he used to be. However, it's nice to see he Timberwolves make a classy move like this and allow him to finish his career at the same place that it started. Even at this old age, KG can still give you a lot of minutes and be a physical defender and rebounder.

I really like this move on Brooklyn's part. Garnett's career clearly was way past his prime and his retirement was only a few months away. They were able to flip him for a young, versatile forward who can do a little bit of everything. Young will serve as an asset on that team whether he is inserted in the starting lineup or playing big minutes off the bench. His contract expires at the end of the season, but the Nets may be able to sway him to return.

While I love the move bringing KG back to Minnesota, the Nets did a great job in getting more value than they should've in return. Even if Young doesn't return next season, he still serves as an upgrade over Garnett as the Nets try to make a playoff push, currently holding the 8th seed.

Winner: Brooklyn Nets


: PG Michael Carter-Williams, C Miles Plumlee & PG Tyler Ennis
: PG Brandon Knight
: 1st round pick (Lakers)


Breakdown: And you thought all the big deals were over. Arguably the biggest trade of the deadline the Sixers made another head-scratching move as they traded away Rookie of the Year point guard, Michael Carter-Williams, just one year removed. The Suns remained active as they completed their third trade, bringing in another point guard after unloading Dragic and Thomas.

In a 4 player trade, Carter-Williams was the biggest name to be dealt. After trading Jrue Holliday away to New Orleans in a draft day trade which made a lot of people wonder, the 76ers traded away his replacement who they acquired on the same day in MCW. It was reported that the main reason why he was dealt was his poor shooting, which is a very poor reason to trade someone if you're looking at overall game, especially when you look at the makeup of their roster. In return, the 76ers received a top 5 protected 1st round pick in this year's draft which is owned by the Lakers; it could turn into a top 3 protected pick next season. Not horrible value, but I question trading away a proven player for uncertainty.

Milwaukee received 3 young players for the price of Brandon Knight, which includes a viable replacement in Carter-Williams. MCW will join a young, athletic Milwaukee squad which features Jabari Parker and Giannis Antetokounmpo. While he is a very poor shooter, MCW has the potential to go off for a triple-double on any given night with his elite passing ability and his rebounding skills. A very nice fit under Jason Kidd in Milwaukee. The Bucks have a playoff spot cemented in for themselves, and now have one of the best young cores in the league. Miles Plumlee and Tyler Ennis were also brought over in the trade. Plumlee provides great depth in the frontcourt due to his defense and rebounding. A very good option off the bench who gives you size and versatility. Tyler Ennis was the 1st round pick of the Suns this past off season. He has struggled early on but the potential is definitely there.

In Brandon Knight the Suns received a perfect fit for Jeff Hornacek's up-tempo, aggressive schemed offense. Knight is enjoying a breakout season as he has tremendously improved his shooting and is seeing highs in assists, steals and rebounds. At only 23 years old, Knight has a bright future ahead of him. The question is whether or not he will be in Phoenix as his contract expires and he is set to cash in this off season; and make much more money than what Dragic would demand. With the departues of Dragic, Thomas and even Ennis in this deal, the Suns now have a lot more balance in the backcourt with Bledsoe and Knight.

Trading only Brandon Knight, the Bucks got tremendous value back for a pending free agent as they received a very good replacement in Michael Carter-Williams, along with 2 solid, young pieces in Plumlee and Ennis. Knight is set to make a lot of money next season, while MCW is still on his rookie contract. From the Suns' perspective, they gave away a blue-chip draft pick, Plumlee and Ennis for Knight which is decent value for them. However, seemingly to be in more of a rebuilding mode, it was a surprise to see them trade away a draft pick that high. As for the 76ers, they received a good draft pick in return for a proven, young point guard which I don't agree with.

Winner: Mlwaukee Bucks

: C Enes Kanter, SF Steve Novak, SF Kyle Singler, PG D.J. Augustin & 2nd Round Pick (Pistons)
: C Kendrick Perkins, PF Grant Jerrett, C Tibor Pleiss (rights), 1st Round Pick (Thunder) & 2nd Round Pick (Pistons)
: PG Reggie Jackson


Breakdown: Yet again, another big, 3 team deal. These are the type of trades that made this trade deadline the busiest, and most memorable deadline in the history of the NBA. Enes Kanter going over to Oklahoma City was the biggest headline of the trade; the received a handful of players in this deal. Reggie Jackson was finally traded from the Thunder and now calls Detroit his new home. Utah received a few pieces, none of which are of note.

You have to love this deal for the Thunder from every aspect. Enes Kanter will provide a lot of competition with Steven Adams, the two will form a great tandem at center for Oklahoma City. Kanter is a great rebounder and uses his size effectively to be a force in the post. At only 22 years old, he still has a lot of upside. The Thunder added 2 sharpshooters off the bench in Steve Novak and Kyle Singler. Novak is an experienced small forward who has hit .485% of 3 pointers this season in limited time, he serves as a weapon in close games. Singler is more well-rounded than Novak who still has room to grow; he contributes in many ways and can hit the 3 ball as well. I really like the fit of Singler. As they traded away Reggie Jackson who is set to become a restricted free agent this off season, they were able to replace him with a more than viable option in D.J. Augustin. Augustin is experienced and can come off the bench and score as well as move the ball around effectively, a very good leader at the point as well. Getting rid of Kendrick Perkins was a win for the Thunder as well. Oklahoma City added a lot of key pieces and completely overhauled their 2nd unit.

The departure of Reggie Jackson from Oklahoma City was along time coming. He arrives in Detroit where he will fill in for Brandon Jennings who was lost for the season after suffering an Achilles injury. Jackson is an immediate upgrade over what they currently have and finally finds himself in a starting role, we'll see if that takes his play to a new level. On the other hand, perhaps a change of scenery might expose him a bit. Jackson I an aggressive player on defense who can rebound the ball. You'd have to think that Stan Van Gundy will only help him develop as a player, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Then big question mark is whether or not he will be in Detroit next season as Jennings will return and Jackson will demand a lot of money, reportedly he turned down an 8 figure offer from Oklahoma City; I can't see the Pistons wanting to invest so much into one position.

For the Jazz, they didn't get anything that will help them win now, which isn't what they need anyway. I'm intrigued by the acquisition of Tabor Pleiss, he seems like a player who will be even better than Kanter the potential is certainly there; it's just uncertain when he will decide to come to the NBA. A first round pick from the Thunder is solid, as well as a 2nd round pick from Detroit. Grant Jerrett doesn't offer much and Perkins was already waived. Kanter and Novak for a 1st, 2nd and Pleiss isn't too bad.

I really like what the Thunder did in this deal, they got rid of Jackson who wasn't even going to return next season anyway. In return they get a high upside big man who can contribute now, along with 3 good pieces who will make an impact off the bench. On Detroit's side, Jackson will definitely help them get into the playoffs as thy are only one game out at this time. Looking at it from a long-term prospective, it may not be the best move for them, but it's not like they gave up a 1st round pick or anything of much value. As I said, I'm really intrigued by Pleiss, it'll be interesting to see how he pans out in the NBA; and the picks are nice as well.

Winner: Oklahoma City Thunder

: SG Arron Afflalo & SF Alonzo Gee
: PF Thomas Robinson, SG Will Barton, SF Victor Claver & 1st Round Pick

Breakdown: While this trade wasn't as big as others made at the trade deadline, it is still a trade of note as it affects the playoff race in the Western conference. This is the type of deal where an obvious buyer met an obvious seller and made something work.

Despite holding the 4th seed in the Western Conference, the Blazers were desperate to add some firepower from the bench as it has been a disappointing unit this season. While overqualified to be a backup, Arron Afflalo will see big minutes whether he is inserted into the starting lineup or not. He can help you on offense whether he has the ball in his hands or not. A good shooter who is a plus defender as well. Afflalo is an experienced guy with a competitive edge who will be a great fit in Portland. Alonzo Gee was also acquired, an experienced swingman who will be solid off the bench.

The biggest name brought over by the Nuggets was Thomas Robinson, who they quickly agreed to a buyout with following the trade. Acquiring a 1st round pick for a B List rental that is Afflalo is pretty good value. Then there are Barton and Claver who probably won't do much in Denver.

Overall, the trade was pretty much Afflalo for a 1st round pick which is good value on both sides for the situations that both teams are in. Afflalo will provide a little extra boost while the 1st round pick allows Denver some more room to build for the future.

Winner: Push


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: C JaVale McGee & 1st Round Pick (Thunder)

Breakdown: It's not very often where you see a "trade" where a team doesn't get anything in return, but that's the case in this one, and understandably so. In exchange of taking on the hefty contract of JaVale McGee who has been injury plagued over the past two seasons, the Nuggets sent over a 1st round pick acquired from the Thunder earlier in the season.

JaVale McGee has shown a lot of promise at times, as he has been a force in the paint and has tremendous athleticism. However, it's injuries that have held him back. The 27 year old center is set to make $12 million next season which the 76ers were willing to take on, in return getting a 1st round pick. The potential is there for McGee, but not the durability. It's unclear whether or not McGee will ever play in Philadelphia and join a frontcourt which already features the injury ridden Nerlens Noel and Joel Embiid.

The Nuggets continued to make smart moves and build for the future by unloading the hefty contract of McGee which frees up a good amount of money to play with. Denver freed up a good deal of cap space while the Sixers received a 1st round pick. Both sides made out pretty good, especially if McGee actually stays healthy and plays to his ability.

Winner: Push

: PG Pablo Prigioni & SG K.J. McDaniels
: SG Alexey Shved & 2 2nd Round Picks
: PG Isaiah Canaan & 2nd Round Pick (Nuggets via Rockets)

Breakdown: While this trade didn't have the blockbuster caliber of the other 3 team deals, it still added to the hectic trade deadline that occurred. A pair of Atlantic Division teams, New York and Philadelphia, along with the Houston Rockets were involved in this 4 player deal.

As the Rockets look to gear up for a playoff run after a 1st round departure last season, they acquired Pablo Prigioni and K.J. McDaniels. Prigioni can operate an offense and adds decent depth behind Patrick Beverley. As for McDaniels, he is the best player involved in the deal. McDaniels has shown a lot of promise during his rookie season, he has freakish athleticism and a unique skill set and leads all qualified guards in blocks with 1.3 per game to go along with nearly 10 points and 3.8 rebounds. While he isn't the ideal fit for Houston's offense as he struggles shooting the 3 ball, he brings them a defensive weapon and some young blood to the bench.

Getting rid of the potential filled McDaniels was a questionable move on Philadelphia's part. However, he had a tricky contract situation as he declined a modest 4 year rookie contract taking a 1 year contract instead; he will become a restricted free agent this off season. Perhaps the 76ers knew that he wouldn't re-sign, or they refused to pay him his high demands. In return, they received Isaiah Canaan who gives them much needed point guard depth which is a position they are very thin at with after trading away Michael Carter-Williams and the injury to Tony Wroten. Canaan is an intriguing player who has yet to receive consistent minutes. He plays hard, tough basketball and can shoot the ball well. With the possibility of reeling in quality minutes for the first time in his career, he should thrive in Philly. Along with Canaan, the 76ers received a 2nd round pick in return for McDaniels and Alexey Shved.

Despite giving up only Pablo Prigioni, the Knicks were able to get back pretty good value for the old point guard as they received 2 2nd round picks and Alexey Shved. Shved's window in the NBA looks to be closing, but he seems like a good fit in the triangle offense. The Knicks received very good compensation for Prigioni.

Based on the upside and potential of McDaniels, that makes the Rockets the favorites in this trade. That was a great pickup by a playoff team. I really like what the Knicks were able to come away with as well. For Philly, I like Canaan and I think he will excel with more minutes.

Winner: Houston Rockets

: PG Andre Miller
: PG Ramon Sessions

Breakdown: Not a big trade, but it's still something. Sacramento recently hired George Karl who has a history with Andre Miller. Washington was looking for a stronger, quicker guard to backup John Wall which is what they get in Sessions.

Washington sits in a comfortable position to get into the playoffs at this point. Ramon Sessions gives them an up-tempo guard who can run the floor and provide some energy to their second unit. While he has struggled this season, he has been a reliable reserve off the bench for most of his career. He should excel with a change of scenery and better situation with the Wizards.

This trade for the Kings was for veteran leadership, and nothing more. Plus, George Karl wanted to link back up with Andre Miller who he coached for a couple of years in Denver. Sacramento acquires a great pure ball distributor in Miller. Miller will probably hang up the sneakers very soon. This swap doesn't affect the Kings too much as they aren't in playoff contention.

A simple swap of point guards isn't a big headline, but it could pay off big for the Wizards. I like the acquisition of Sessions as he can provide a lot off the bench, especially with a change of scenery after struggling in Sacramento. Acquiring Miller wasn't bad for the Kings, but there isn't as much upside for them as there is for the Wizards.

Winner: Washington Wizards
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Sixers won that trade. MCW is nothing special and that pick has a chance to be very valuable this year or next. Even if that pick drops in the 8-10 range next year I'm taking that for MCW in a second. I don't see the Lakers making the playoffs next year even if they get Kevin Love and Okafor.
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Hate what the Suns got for Isaiah Thomas. He's better than Marcus Thorton and a late 1st.
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Good read as usual WiB.

Don't understand why Detroit doesn't get more love for their Reggie Jackson acquisition. They essentially upgraded their point guard situation for a measly 2nd round pick. Will it be an early 2nd round pick? Probably, but that's not a significant piece when you consider that Jackson is a RFA so they'll be able to retain him relatively easily.

Not sure how you have the Blazers/Nuggets trade as a push. I mean, I guess if you're the Nuggets you've got something to show for Aaron Afflalo, but you're most likely looking at a late 1st round pick for a very good role player. Good value? Absolutely, but nothing ground breaking. The Blazers needed to add some more depth, especially with how poorly Nicolas Batum is playing this year. A trio of AA/Matthews/Batum gives them a LOT of length to use.

Also, the Nuggets clearly won the trade with the Sixers. McGee is due something in the neighborhood of $17M for the next year and a half, and he was seeing his minutes dwindle in favor of Jusuf Nurkic. The Nuggets shed a TON of salary all for the price of a mid-to-late first round pick.
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Rockets trade could end up a push. Getting McGee for a first using our cap space = win, trading MCW while his value is at its highest = win.
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CWood21 wrote:
Also, the Nuggets clearly won the trade with the Sixers. McGee is due something in the neighborhood of $17M for the next year and a half, and he was seeing his minutes dwindle in favor of Jusuf Nurkic. The Nuggets shed a TON of salary all for the price of a mid-to-late first round pick.

Are Nuggets going to contend next year?
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CWood21 wrote:
Also, the Nuggets clearly won the trade with the Sixers. McGee is due something in the neighborhood of $17M for the next year and a half, and he was seeing his minutes dwindle in favor of Jusuf Nurkic. The Nuggets shed a TON of salary all for the price of a mid-to-late first round pick.

Are Nuggets going to contend next year?

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Awesome stuff brodie.. Good read.
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The Sixers won that trade. MCW is nothing special and that pick has a chance to be very valuable this year or next. Even if that pick drops in the 8-10 range next year I'm taking that for MCW in a second. I don't see the Lakers making the playoffs next year even if they get Kevin Love and Okafor.


Yep. That trade analysis is based on a major misrepresentation of MCW's value as a prospect.

Poor shooting barely begins to cover MCW's offensive weakness. He's a volume scorer on a historically bad offensive team. Tony Wroten was a more effective scorer than him, and I don't see anyone scrambling to acquire him for a lottery pick. The guy has a game that is totally out of sync with what PG's need to do to succeed in today's NBA, and he's turning 24 this year. Based on everything we know about him, he shouldn't be worth a lottery pick at all.

Seriously, in what world is the potential #6 pick in this year's draft (or a top ten next year) anything less than a steal for MCW? The guy's ceiling is "poor man's poor man's Rajon Rondo", and he's not really that close to even reaching it.
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Nuggets trade still a push
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At only 23 years old, Knight has a bright future ahead of him. The question is whether or not he will be in Phoenix as his contract expires and he is set to cash in this off season; and make much more money than what Dragic would demand.


The bolded isn't true. Dragic is going to get either 4/$80 from someone, or 5/$100 from the Heat.

I could see us giving Knight a 4 year, $44-48 million deal or something like that.
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RockyDennis wrote:
The Sixers won that trade. MCW is nothing special and that pick has a chance to be very valuable this year or next. Even if that pick drops in the 8-10 range next year I'm taking that for MCW in a second. I don't see the Lakers making the playoffs next year even if they get Kevin Love and Okafor.

It really all depends on who they draft with that pick. I really think MCW gets too much unnecessary flak. Yes, he's an absolutely terrible shooter, but if you overlook that, he's a very well-rounded player, and point guard. He's among the best rebounding PGs in the game, can pass the ball very well, play solid defense and drive to basket. He's only in his 2nd season, it's not like he doesn't have time to develop.

I especially like the trade for Milwaukee because I think he's a tremendous fit there. Insert him with Antetoukounmpo and Jabari Parker, that's one big, athletic and young 1-3. Plus, he's in great hands under Jason Kidd. I honestly think he'll turn out better than Brandon Knight and will prove to be an upgrade.
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CWood21 wrote:
Good read as usual WiB.

Don't understand why Detroit doesn't get more love for their Reggie Jackson acquisition. They essentially upgraded their point guard situation for a measly 2nd round pick. Will it be an early 2nd round pick? Probably, but that's not a significant piece when you consider that Jackson is a RFA so they'll be able to retain him relatively easily.

Not sure how you have the Blazers/Nuggets trade as a push. I mean, I guess if you're the Nuggets you've got something to show for Aaron Afflalo, but you're most likely looking at a late 1st round pick for a very good role player. Good value? Absolutely, but nothing ground breaking. The Blazers needed to add some more depth, especially with how poorly Nicolas Batum is playing this year. A trio of AA/Matthews/Batum gives them a LOT of length to use.

Also, the Nuggets clearly won the trade with the Sixers. McGee is due something in the neighborhood of $17M for the next year and a half, and he was seeing his minutes dwindle in favor of Jusuf Nurkic. The Nuggets shed a TON of salary all for the price of a mid-to-late first round pick.

Thanks brotha, I appreciate it.

You make a good point, what they gave up for Jackson was actually very good value. I just don't like the idea of them investing so much money into both him and Jennings. Yes, he's an RFA but that doesn't mean other teams won't offer a boatload of money at him, then it'll all be in Detroit's hands whether or not they want to match. In terms of value, this trade was tremendous for them, especially since they're trying to make a late playoff push. However, I want to see how it plays out this offseason.

Afflalo certainly was a great acquisition for Portland, he'll fit right in and contribute and give them a boost come playoff time. I like that Denver was able to flip him for a 1st round pick. I just really like what both teams did there. Denver flipped a veteran for a good draft pick while Portland got good value in return as well as something they needed.

McGee is only due $12M next season, according to SB Nation. Not sure how reliable the source is. Regardless, yes, the Nuggets did shave a lot of cap space. However, despite the injuries, McGee does have a lot of upside and can turn out to be a good player in Philadelphia, if he can stay healthy. I just think draft picks are too valuable to just give away. Granted, this helps Denver in terms of playing around in free agency; but the 76ers accumulated another draft pick and are set to completely rebuild their franchise within the next 2 years or so. I just like the upside of a 1st round pick and JaVale McGee as opposed to an extra $12M or so.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:26 am    Post subject: Re: WiB's NBA Trade Deadline Breakdown & Analysis Reply with quote

Clutch5000 wrote:
Hate what the Suns got for Isaiah Thomas. He's better than Marcus Thorton and a late 1st.

Agreed. He's worth much more than that. Although, the 1st round pick is a nice get. They traded both Dragic and Thomas, you would think they'd be able to get more in return than Brandon Knight and 2 mid-late 1st round.

phillybul wrote:
Rockets trade could end up a push. Getting McGee for a first using our cap space = win, trading MCW while his value is at its highest = win.

I suppose so. Heavily depends on how Canaan works out and if the 76ers can find a solid player with one of those 2nds. They gave up a 1st and McGee, didn't receive anything. That's one way to look at it, but I feel he still has room to grow.

With the Rockets trade, I just really love how it helps them now and in the future. It gives them a great young, defender off the bench who fills a need at the moment. McDaniels had a very high ceiling and can develop into a good starter down the road.

RockyDennis wrote:
RainbowCarebear wrote:
CWood21 wrote:
Also, the Nuggets clearly won the trade with the Sixers. McGee is due something in the neighborhood of $17M for the next year and a half, and he was seeing his minutes dwindle in favor of Jusuf Nurkic. The Nuggets shed a TON of salary all for the price of a mid-to-late first round pick.

Are Nuggets going to contend next year?

Nope

Definitely not. Maybe if they were in the Eastern Conference.

The departure of McGee drained some cap room, and they have 2 1st round picks this year I believe, so they're in a decent position to rebuild. I could see them firing Shaw and flipping Faried for some younger guys and picks as well.

DalCowboyzRule wrote:
Word_is_Bond wrote:
At only 23 years old, Knight has a bright future ahead of him. The question is whether or not he will be in Phoenix as his contract expires and he is set to cash in this off season; and make much more money than what Dragic would demand.


The bolded isn't true. Dragic is going to get either 4/$80 from someone, or 5/$100 from the Heat.

I could see us giving Knight a 4 year, $44-48 million deal or something like that.

I disagree, but we shall see.

Knight is a 23 year old who has continued to grow every year he's been in the league whereas Dragic has already reached his ceiling and will be 30 years old next season. Not saying Dragic is bad, he's a very good point guard. The age and upside of Knight trumps that of Dragic.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iggles wrote:
RockyDennis wrote:
The Sixers won that trade. MCW is nothing special and that pick has a chance to be very valuable this year or next. Even if that pick drops in the 8-10 range next year I'm taking that for MCW in a second. I don't see the Lakers making the playoffs next year even if they get Kevin Love and Okafor.


Yep. That trade analysis is based on a major misrepresentation of MCW's value as a prospect.

Poor shooting barely begins to cover MCW's offensive weakness. He's a volume scorer on a historically bad offensive team. Tony Wroten was a more effective scorer than him, and I don't see anyone scrambling to acquire him for a lottery pick. The guy has a game that is totally out of sync with what PG's need to do to succeed in today's NBA, and he's turning 24 this year. Based on everything we know about him, he shouldn't be worth a lottery pick at all.

Seriously, in what world is the potential #6 pick in this year's draft (or a top ten next year) anything less than a steal for MCW? The guy's ceiling is "poor man's poor man's Rajon Rondo", and he's not really that close to even reaching it.

I'm just a lot higher on MCW than everyone else around here. Yes, he is a horrific shooter; other than that, he has a solid game.

A constant triple-double threat who is among the best rebounding point guards in the game. As I previously said, a solid inside scorer who will do a lot better with a lot of the load taken off his shoulders and a solid defender. A good passer who will only get better in Milwaukee with the weapons he has to work with. He will thrive under Jason Kidd, especially teaming up with Jabari Parker and Antetokounmpo. I feel that he gets a lot of hate just because he is a poor shooter. He still has some time to develop, the change of scenery will do him good.
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