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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:28 pm Post subject: Which proposed Harden package was best for Thunder? |
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So..in an attempt to spur discussion, which proposed Harden trade would have been best for the Thunder assuming all parties accepted?
Harden for Bradley Beal and James Singleton
Harden and a salary filler (presumably someone like Lazar Hayward and Cole Aldrich) for Klay Thompson, a 1st Round Pick (presumably the pick that became Harrison Barnes), and taking one one of Richard Jefferson or Andris Biedrins.
The deal that actually sent Harden to the Rockets
A package around Jonas Valanciunas?
Or another one reported but I missed?
Which deal would have been the best for the Thunder, both right now and long term?
Personally, I thought that the Golden State package was the best deal for them. Klay Thompson would have been the ideal 2 guard to put in between Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant with his career 40.6% shooting from beyond the arc. He works great in a half court set, and can hit the open three in transition. Add in that pick that would eventually become Harrison Barnes, whom they could have drafted Andre Drummond as their center of the future and amnesty Kendrick Perkins this offseason. Sure, taking on either Biedrins or RJefferson's contract isn't what you wanted, but the overall package is the bigger piece.
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You forgot the Washington deal was one the Thunder wanted not one the Wizards proposed. And it was the right move for Washington.
As for the deals the best one was the Rockets' deal. The Thunder have no real downside in it.
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Dr. Philly
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I'd honestly take the GS deal and would have drafted Drummond
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Assuming all parties accepted, definitely the Warriors deal. Thompsons an upgrade over Harden as a midrange and 3 point shooter on offense, and a big upgrade as a defender. Then they could have drafted Andre Drummond....
PG: Westbrook
SG: Thompson
SF: Durant
PF: Ibaka
C: Drummond
Does that team beat the Heat? That's a significantly upgraded all around Thunder team, specifically on D.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Supersuavesky wrote: | You forgot the Washington deal was one the Thunder wanted not one the Wizards proposed. And it was the right move for Washington.
As for the deals the best one was the Rockets' deal. The Thunder have no real downside in it. |
How was that the right move for Washington? If they had Harden they might've snuck into the playoffs.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Gortat, Dudley, 2013 1st for Harden, Perkins.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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The Warriors should have just drafted Drummond
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| simonwayne wrote: | | The Warriors should have just drafted Drummond |
Uh, Bogut? Barnes was the right pick for them honestly.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| simonwayne wrote: | | The Warriors should have just drafted Drummond |
A lot of teams should have
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The Wizards deal.
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The Warriors deal.
I do think Barnes will end up being a somewhat wasted pick in Golden State. I don't see how he can reach his offensive potential when he's surrounded by Curry, Lee, and Thompson.
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| Darkness wrote: | | simonwayne wrote: | | The Warriors should have just drafted Drummond |
A lot of teams should have |
Pretty much every team 2-9 should've picked him. He was clearly the most NBA ready outside of AD.
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CWood21
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Supersuavesky wrote: | | As for the deals the best one was the Rockets' deal. The Thunder have no real downside in it. |
Except for the fact that there is no marquee piece. What's the most valuable piece in that deal? Jeremy Lamb, while full of potential, played very sparingly his rookie year and had some medical concerns during the draft. Kevin Martin is a nice shooter, and a great fit next to Westbrook and Durant to bring off the bench but not a centerpiece. The Raptors pick will almost certainly be towards the lower end of the lottery, in a very weak draft, barring some sort of huge jump through the ping pong balls. And then the Mavericks itself isn't overly valuable. The best piece is Jeremy Lamb, and he hasn't really done much thus far in his short career.
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| teamorange wrote: | | Darkness wrote: | | simonwayne wrote: | | The Warriors should have just drafted Drummond |
A lot of teams should have |
Pretty much every team 2-9 should've picked him. He was clearly the most NBA ready outside of AD. |
I was beyond happy when his stock started plummeting for no reason. I thought the Hornets had a chance at 10  Him and AD would've been too fresh... 
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| Harper41 wrote: | | teamorange wrote: | | Darkness wrote: | | simonwayne wrote: | | The Warriors should have just drafted Drummond |
A lot of teams should have |
Pretty much every team 2-9 should've picked him. He was clearly the most NBA ready outside of AD. |
I was beyond happy when his stock started plummeting for no reason. I thought the Hornets had a chance at 10 Him and AD would've been too fresh... |
It was the most bizarre thing ever. He was either the best defender in the draft or second best (really not much separated him and AD in college IMO) and he was clearly a very good rebounder. At worst you were getting a Roy Hibbert but if he can develop any offensive game you have a HOFer. People for whatever reason got hung up on his FT% which caused him to drop eight spots. Totally bizarre all those GMs dropped the ball.
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