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philly3k


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
freakygeniuskid wrote:
Weeden - I think Dalton numbers are possible, would give him about a 35% chance of hitting those.

Richardson - Beast. Upside to be a top 4 RB at the end of the year as he'll likely get around 350-380 touches if healthy all year. Hardesty has value only as a handcuff or in case of injury.

Little - I really like him as a sleeper this year, and I don't really let my real life fanhood affect my fantasy teams. I feel like he'll be taken somewhere around the 40th-50th WR, and he'll have significantly more upside than anyone else picked in that range.


350-380 touches seems like a ton, even for someone of his talent. You really think he gets that many touches? I do love Greg Little though


i could see more like 320 touches, 17 carries a game on average and 3 catches for a average of 20 touches a game.
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Entropy


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richardson will likely be taken in the first round of many FF drafts, but personally I would look to get him in the late 1st/early 2nd purely on the fact that he is a rookie and there are many unknowns about how specifically he will be used.

I can see a ton of yards from him, but he may sometimes be a decoy on goal line, especially due to the stout defensive lines we face in the AFCN.

Hardesty had no fantasy value at all, at this point.

Little should be improved in both yardage and TDs compared to last year, but still is at best a solid #3 or #4 WR on most fantasy teams. Keep an eye on Gordon too, later in the season he may be worth a trade or a waiver wire pickup.

Watson should be a dependable backup TE in most leagues.

Weeden, as someone stated earlier, will probably have a few more TDs and yards than Dalton in 2011, but with more INTs as well. I would look to get him as a backup QB, or even a bench player, and see how he plays the first few games. Definitely worth taking a risk on as your backup to start the season.

Dawson should be a reliable kicker as well, I would take him late if he is still there.

The Browns defense is also worth a late round draft day selection as your backup defense. But again, watch the first few games and see if they really do make progress in turnovers and remain consistent with low points scored against them.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

who keeps backup TEs?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
who keeps backup TEs?


Not me. Just pick one up off the Free agennt list if my guy has a bye.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hornbybrown wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
who keeps backup TEs?


Not me. Just pick one up off the Free agennt list if my guy has a bye.


I do, it's never a Ben Watson guy though, I use that pick for a potential receiving bonus. It just depends who's on the board, a backup TE that gets a lot of red zone looks is still better than an 3rd or 4th WR on my NFL squads. Worst case scenario I drop the guy after a week or so in favor of an up-and-coming waiver wire beast.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
who keeps backup TEs?


For one, anyone that plays in a league that requires 2 starting TEs or requires 2 TEs on the roster. Also, many leagues allow for a QB/RB/TE/WR slot, depending on how your roster is looking near the end of the draft, you may want a 2nd TE like Watson.

It also is likely that simply playing in a larger league (14 teams or more) would increase the chance of needing to make up for lack of expected production at the WR position with another TE.

And lastly, anyone who really plays FF much knows that you should draft depth at as many positions as possible so you can more easily adjust to how the season begins to unfold.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Entropy wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
who keeps backup TEs?


For one, anyone that plays in a league that requires 2 starting TEs or requires 2 TEs on the roster. Also, many leagues allow for a QB/RB/TE/WR slot, depending on how your roster is looking near the end of the draft, you may want a 2nd TE like Watson.

It also is likely that simply playing in a larger league (14 teams or more) would increase the chance of needing to make up for lack of expected production at the WR position with another TE.

And lastly, anyone who really plays FF much knows that you should draft depth at as many positions as possible so you can more easily adjust to how the season begins to unfold.


yeah. i play FF. im the king around here- beat the rest of the forum last year.

obv if its required to draft 2 TEs, you have to, but i was talkin bout the pretty much standard 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, 1 DST, 1 K 6 bench. sorry for not specifying.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
Entropy wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
who keeps backup TEs?


For one, anyone that plays in a league that requires 2 starting TEs or requires 2 TEs on the roster. Also, many leagues allow for a QB/RB/TE/WR slot, depending on how your roster is looking near the end of the draft, you may want a 2nd TE like Watson.

It also is likely that simply playing in a larger league (14 teams or more) would increase the chance of needing to make up for lack of expected production at the WR position with another TE.

And lastly, anyone who really plays FF much knows that you should draft depth at as many positions as possible so you can more easily adjust to how the season begins to unfold.


yeah. i play FF. im the king around here- beat the rest of the forum last year.

obv if its required to draft 2 TEs, you have to, but i was talkin bout the pretty much standard 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, 1 DST, 1 K 6 bench. sorry for not specifying.


no worries, my man

So, when does the next FF season start here? I'd love to play. I'm usually dabbling in about 5-7 leagues every year anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Browns fantasy thoughts:

1. Trent Richardson is a legit top 10 pick and will likely be a top 8 back this year.

2. Greg Little is likely the only other player worth drafting in the top 12 rounds. I think he will be around 1000 yards and 5 touchdowns. A decent 3rd WR with maybe some upside.

3. If theres any random breakout player from this team it will be Jordan Cameron. He won't get drafted but has an outside chance to be a starting TE if things come together for him. He fits the mold as the uber athletic TE that always seems to go undrafted but produces in a late season surge.

4. Browns defense might be a good pick in one of the last 2 rounds.

5. Nobody else is worth taking. Maybe Hardesty can be an OK spot fill if T Rich is injured and Weeden might be an OK emergency waiver pick up. Expect 20 TDs, 20 picks, and 3000 yards or so.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

see my weeds prediction is pretty close to what you said

20TD
20INT
but more like ~3500 to ~4000 yards

i think he'll have high totals across the board.
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