trading James Jones

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[Hybridmoon]

I think people are looking at running back in our system incorrectly. Most people like to say we don't value the running back position somwhy would you trade for Tate. I think the reason we don't value the running back position is because we don't have one not because the position doesn't fit our system. If we had a running back capable of touching the ball 15-20 times a game effectively than we would use one.

With that said Houston needs a starter opposite Andre Johnson and jones could be that player whereas we need a running back capable of running the ball and Tate has shown that he can do that. Jones is 3rd or 4th on our chart while Tate is a backup to a rb who just signed a huge contract whose own deal expires soon....not a lot of teams are willing to have to rbs making starter money like Carolina especially a team like Houston whose got holes to fill on both sides of the ball and didnt have cap space to re-sign key free agents this year.

Jones has a tradeable contract and his departure would free up space for Cobb to see the field and for borel to make the team.
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[BartStarving]

I'd guess Jones is not going anywhere. If Jones shaved his legs and could cook, Aaron Rodgers would marry him. He absolutely loves the guy from the days when they were both backups behind #4 and Co.

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did someone really say a second round pick for jones? what delusional [inappropriate/removed] planet are you from?

anyway... trading jones would be dumb as all hell. we are going to trade away our 3 so that our 6 gets a chance?

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[Polaris]

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By comparison to our division rivals since 2005: the Bears have spent a 1st, 3rd, 2nd, and 7th on RBs; The Lions have spent a 3rd, a 3rd, a 6th, a 1st, and a 2nd on RBs; and the Vikings have spent a a 4th, a 1st, a 2nd, but that 1st was a good one and it's not as though they haven't had a good running game each of those years anyway.

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So Thompson shouldn't have sat on his hands and he should have followed the example of our three division rivals.....who haven't done squat in the playoffs (Minnesota, one playoff win in the last five years, the Bears one, and the Lions none.)?

It's not that Thompson doesn't value the RB position; it's that the Packers have a different set of criteria that they use to evaluate that spot.

1) Guy must stay available. You cannot help the team if you're not suited up.

2) Guy must protect the QB in the passing game.

3) Guy must protect the rock. The Packers formula for victory includes winning the turnover battle and that means you've got to hang onto the ball.

Now, because these guys are available later in the draft we don't need to burn a high pick on a LeShoure or a Peterson. We could have had Forte but we took Nelson instead....was that a mistake?

Using the Saints as an example misses a fundamental point: The Saints actually throw to their backs. The Packers would rather throw to their wideouts and Finley. It's a vertical passing game.

Once Upon A Time, football was 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Not any more. If Aaron Rodgers completes 2/3 of his passes and his average attempt gains over 7 yards, why do you want to hand the ball off to a guy who gets 4.5 yards/ carry?

And here's a little secret stat: MOST runs in the NFL are 3 yards or less. Long runs move the average up, but for every 10 yard run there are several two yard plunges.

Running the ball is good for controlling the clock and slowing down a pass rush, but it just doesn't put as many points on the board as passing does. And isn't scoring points the purpose of an offense?

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I'm not saying Thompson made a mistake by not piling up running backs, I'm saying Thompson reveals his priorities by what he does in the draft. TT is as hard line a "best value available" guy in the NFL, and he appears to spend fewer resources (and significantly fewer premium resources) on acquiring running backs than do the rest of the NFL. This leads me to conclude that, with this team, TT values the running back position less than the rest of the NFL.

Now it's entirely possible that TT just has a different set of priorities when it comes to running backs, but he's not willing to overpay for a player, and James Jones and a 2nd round pick for Ben Tate is assuredly overpaying.

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[Pack4life7]

James jones is a good WR on a fair contract. I have no idea why people are wanting to get rid of him so bad. Aaron likes him and he's a huge insurance policy if Greg or Jordy tear their ACL week 1. His contract is only 2 years so it's not like he's prohibiting us from locking any of our studs up.

I personally think he's guns have a huge season this year if for nothing else because of the attention Jordy is now guna draw.
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