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bdog

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject:

EliteTexan80 wrote:

RainbowCarebear wrote:

PantherDE90 wrote:

No he said he'd never do another Batman movie again.

Yeah I thought I've seen that around, so I'm abit confused why Nolan had JLG entering the cave.

I think Greg_Jennings hit on it quite well. At the crux of the Batman franchise is the story of Bruce Wayne, billionaire orphan and his quest for justice and the safe keeping of Gotham. Since the first few movies, one item has stood out - as soon as Gotham no longer NEEDED Batman, Bruce could go back to his "normal" life. The people who were concerned about the well being of Wayne - most notably Alfred and Rachel Dawes, the closest Wayne had to family - looked for that time, but feared it would never come.

By showing the efforts of John Blake, and the supposed "Rise" of someone to take on the mantle of the silent guardian, Bruce Wayne's story - the actual story at hand - is done. Rachel can now rest in peace, as can Alfred.

This and Nolan always talks about Batman being a symbol. I think he wanted to show that the Batman is about more than one man and anyone who has the passion to do something like that could take over.
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject:

bdog wrote:

EliteTexan80 wrote:

RainbowCarebear wrote:

PantherDE90 wrote:

No he said he'd never do another Batman movie again.

Yeah I thought I've seen that around, so I'm abit confused why Nolan had JLG entering the cave.

This and Nolan always talks about Batman being a symbol. I think he wanted to show that the Batman is about more than one man and anyone who has the passion to do something like that could take over.

In The Dark Knight there were a lot of people trying to be Batman, but they were wearing hockey pads.
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject:

Yfz01 wrote:

bdog wrote:

EliteTexan80 wrote:

RainbowCarebear wrote:

PantherDE90 wrote:

No he said he'd never do another Batman movie again.

Yeah I thought I've seen that around, so I'm abit confused why Nolan had JLG entering the cave.

This and Nolan always talks about Batman being a symbol. I think he wanted to show that the Batman is about more than one man and anyone who has the passion to do something like that could take over.

In The Dark Knight there were a lot of people trying to be Batman, but they were wearing hockey pads.

You need the passion to do it, and the means to get it done.
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:19 pm Post subject:

There's a difference between "Batman can be anybody," and "Anybody can be Batman."

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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:28 pm Post subject:

Deep Mug wrote:

There's a difference between "Batman can be anybody," and "Anybody can be Batman."

That's why they had a cop and Batman's sidekick in the movie "rise" at the end. Wayne clearly trusted Blake to carry on as Batman and that was the point. Wayne chose his successor.
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:01 pm Post subject:

SaveourSonics wrote:

Deep Mug wrote:

It's not thatBane went down easily it's that he went down in the link of an eye during the climax of the film. A character with so much build up and great fights was dead in a split second.

This. It was extremely anticlimatic.

YES. He was built up to be this immense enemy that had all the control and power in the world, yet he gets pushed aside as the main villain then he gets blasted. I was actually waiting for them to finish him off because I thought he was still alive. Horrible ending to such an imposing character.

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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:40 pm Post subject:

NS922 wrote:

SaveourSonics wrote:

Deep Mug wrote:

It's not thatBane went down easily it's that he went down in the link of an eye during the climax of the film. A character with so much build up and great fights was dead in a split second.

This. It was extremely anticlimatic.

this was my main gripe with the film. He was such a great villain, but to complete a good villain, they need a GREAT ending. and Bane's was just awful
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:24 am Post subject:

ianlewis16 wrote:

NS922 wrote:

SaveourSonics wrote:

Deep Mug wrote:

It's not thatBane went down easily it's that he went down in the link of an eye during the climax of the film. A character with so much build up and great fights was dead in a split second.

This. It was extremely anticlimatic.

this was my main gripe with the film. He was such a great villain, but to complete a good villain, they need a GREAT ending. and Bane's was just awful

I was a bit disappointed too, but I think they showed that Batman wouldve killed him if Talia hadnt stepped in.

Still, wish it wouldve ended with him having his mask completely removed or something and him dying that way.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:57 am Post subject:

Id like to think that if the movie wasnt so long they could have given bane a better ending.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:01 am Post subject:

Not anybody can be Batman. If that were true, then wouldn't it be really easy to kill the Bruce Wayne Batman? Since he's so replaceable and not that much better than anyone else..

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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:12 am Post subject:

FourThreeMafia wrote:

Still, wish it wouldve ended with him having his mask completely removed or something and him dying that way.

So a blatant Return of the Jedi ripoff?

SadLionFan00 wrote:

Id like to think that if the movie wasnt so long they could have given bane a better ending.

This. I heard the original cut of the movie was 4 hours, I'm kinda hoping the director's cut on Blu-ray is something like that.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:39 am Post subject:

patdt13 wrote:

SoCalNiner wrote:

EliteTexan80 wrote:

49ersfan wrote:

-Nolan hires a ton of TV actors and gives them some really small roles. Aiden Gillen, the CIA op (Wire, Game of Thrones), Robert Wisdom, the Sergeant at the bridge (Wire, Prison Break), Will Estes, the rookie cop in the chase scene (Blue Bloods), and even William Fitchner in TDK, bank manager (Prison Break).

Ken Watanabe was in BB, as the "fake" Ras-al Ghoul...

Josh Stewart (Barsad) was from Criminal Minds and he had a pretty sizable role.

Wade Williams (Prison Break) was in The Dark Knight Rises too.

Deebo was in TDK. Wasn't very Deebo-like, however. Deebo didn't ask Red for that chain, didn't ask Red for the bike...he straight took it.

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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:15 pm Post subject:

matt79511 wrote:

FourThreeMafia wrote:

Still, wish it wouldve ended with him having his mask completely removed or something and him dying that way.

So a blatant Return of the Jedi ripoff?

SadLionFan00 wrote:

Id like to think that if the movie wasnt so long they could have given bane a better ending.

This. I heard the original cut of the movie was 4 hours, I'm kinda hoping the director's cut on Blu-ray is something like that.

http://collider.com/dark-knight-rises-deleted-scenes/187063/

While the move was def long enough, I wouldn't have minded to see some of this backstory they apparently filmed on Bane. I do hope those scenes end up on the dvd/blu ray release of it, but I doubt it since BB and TDK didn't have any deleted scenes on them.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:45 pm Post subject:

Jetsfandan423 wrote:

matt79511 wrote:

FourThreeMafia wrote:

Still, wish it wouldve ended with him having his mask completely removed or something and him dying that way.

So a blatant Return of the Jedi ripoff?

SadLionFan00 wrote:

Id like to think that if the movie wasnt so long they could have given bane a better ending.

This. I heard the original cut of the movie was 4 hours, I'm kinda hoping the director's cut on Blu-ray is something like that.

I bet they are saving them for the Blu Ray Trilogy box set that will be ungodly expensive.
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matt79511

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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:15 am Post subject:

I don't necessarily care for deleted scenes, I just want a director's cut. TDKR felt too rushed at times.
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