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BirdsFan06050


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't understand why a 50/50 split with no escrow can't be the solution.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BirdsFan06050 wrote:
I really don't understand why a 50/50 split with no escrow can't be the solution.

Because the players shouldn't have to give anything up because the NHL can't sell tickets, put teams in the right locations, etc. The players gave over 3 billion dollars in concessions from the last CBA. The NHL is once again asking for them to pay for their inability to have 30 successful teams.

As I've said before, I don't care if we lose an entire season. I just hope the players don't give in this time.

This lockout is being caused by Gary Bettman, and the greed of the owners. The NBA & NFL got better deals, so now the NHL owners want a bigger share as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, but the PA is the reason why we're not watching hockey right now, not the owners.

The owners put forth a fair offer, the PA then countered with three apparent jokes of an offer. And why is Zach Parise of all people whining on twitter about the owners handing out these contracts? If I recall, you yourself demanded a $12 million signing bonus right on the spot, unless you wouldn't sign. I can see if someone like Tanner Glass would complain about it, but Parise? LOL.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eggybucsfan31 wrote:
Sorry, but the PA is the reason why we're not watching hockey right now, not the owners.

The owners put forth a fair offer, the PA then countered with three apparent jokes of an offer. And why is Zach Parise of all people whining on twitter about the owners handing out these contracts? If I recall, you yourself demanded a $12 million signing bonus right on the spot, unless you wouldn't sign. I can see if someone like Tanner Glass would complain about it, but Parise? LOL.


That's just not true whatsoever.

The NHLPA gave the owners 3 CBA proposals which all included a split in revenue.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NHL would see a lot more revenue if they moved a few teams to Canada. Hamilton, Saskatoon, and Quebec City (yeah, I know they're getting a team) would all be better markets than several existing American ones. Hell, they could put a team in a Toronto suburb (Vaughan was talked about, idk how the Leafs would react to this though), and then Vancouver and Montreal could even support second teams. Honestly, the NHL can't support 30 teams right now... if they want to try, they need more in Canada. I'm not knowledgeable on the business side of any sports league, but it seems like common sense that these markets would outperform many US ones if they're given a few years to build a fanbase.

article is pre Winnipeg, but still:

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/2011/04/12/17962611.html
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Islanders are moving to Brooklyn.

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/10/islanders-are-reportedly-moving-to-brooklyn.html
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BaltimoreTerp wrote:
The Islanders are moving to Brooklyn.

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/10/islanders-are-reportedly-moving-to-brooklyn.html


Lets hope that Jay-Z doesn't design their uniforms like he did the Brooklyn Nets.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1BackInBlackFan wrote:
BaltimoreTerp wrote:
The Islanders are moving to Brooklyn.

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/10/islanders-are-reportedly-moving-to-brooklyn.html


Lets hope that Jay-Z doesn't design their uniforms like he did the Brooklyn Nets.


Just about anything will be an improvement for the Islanders.

Also, are they going to be the Inlanders now?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLick12 wrote:
1BackInBlackFan wrote:
BaltimoreTerp wrote:
The Islanders are moving to Brooklyn.

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/10/islanders-are-reportedly-moving-to-brooklyn.html


Lets hope that Jay-Z doesn't design their uniforms like he did the Brooklyn Nets.


Just about anything will be an improvement for the Islanders.

Also, are they going to be the Inlanders now?


Geographically speaking, they are still on Long Island. Even if politically speaking, Brooklyn is part of New York City.

Glad to see the Isles will still be around.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roysmyboy31 wrote:
BLick12 wrote:
1BackInBlackFan wrote:
BaltimoreTerp wrote:
The Islanders are moving to Brooklyn.

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/10/islanders-are-reportedly-moving-to-brooklyn.html


Lets hope that Jay-Z doesn't design their uniforms like he did the Brooklyn Nets.


Just about anything will be an improvement for the Islanders.

Also, are they going to be the Inlanders now?


Geographically speaking, they are still on Long Island. Even if politically speaking, Brooklyn is part of New York City.

Glad to see the Isles will still be around.


No need to ruin my joke, a-hole.
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...after all these years...it just happened...this morning. I can't even begin to describe my emotions right now...
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I can't believe we're reunited with the Nets. Lease is important, though. Hopefully Wang sells to Ratner eventually.
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And we are keeping the logo (although I expect slight adjustment on on island part), name, and colors. Fantastic news all around.

Screw Long Island and GO ISLANDERS!!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beyond just being a hockey fan, this lockout is really pissing me off as a Wings fan. We have an old core and this is one of our last years of a legitimate shot at a title before we have to start retooling and replacing guys. We already lost Lidstrom, who knows how Datsyuk will react to playing a season back in Russia and if he'll really want to return, Zetterberg and Kronwall are both only getting higher up in the 30's, and a bunch of other guys (Bertuzzi.. not that I care if he leaves, Franzen, Sammuelsson, Cleary) are already on the wrong side of 30 and only getting higher up and likely regressing. One of our only young forwards really worth anything (Filppula) was supposed to be playing in the last year of his contract, too...

Plus, we're going to lose the Winter Classic (at least this year). Just a huge bummer.
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UofMfan909 wrote:
Beyond just being a hockey fan, this lockout is really pissing me off as a Wings fan. We have an old core and this is one of our last years of a legitimate shot at a title before we have to start retooling and replacing guys. We already lost Lidstrom, who knows how Datsyuk will react to playing a season back in Russia and if he'll really want to return, Zetterberg and Kronwall are both only getting higher up in the 30's, and a bunch of other guys (Bertuzzi.. not that I care if he leaves, Franzen, Sammuelsson, Cleary) are already on the wrong side of 30 and only getting higher up and likely regressing. One of our only young forwards really worth anything (Filppula) was supposed to be playing in the last year of his contract, too...

Plus, we're going to lose the Winter Classic (at least this year). Just a huge bummer.


Yeah, while the Flyers core is very young Kimmo Timonen did say he is likely to stay overseas if the lockout continues. Very sad to hear as he is one of my favorite Flyers.
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