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Bohlmann20
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 Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:05 pm Post subject: What will become of college football's history? |
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If this isn't worth a thread, lock it, but I am curious.
With there being a playoff now (well, in 2014), will the history of college football become irrelevent?
To better convey my question, I'm going to compare it to the nfl. Once the nfl started the "Super Bowl" (yes, I realize there was more significant change to the nfl in the 60's), the championship winners of years previous became more or less irrelevant.
Will the same happen to College Football? |
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Short answer, No.
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No but I would be cool with that. Oregon was pretty much crap until the pick and I'd be cool with being one of the elite teams starting a new era.
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| JustisM wrote: | | No but I would be cool with that. Oregon was pretty much crap until the pick and I'd be cool with being one of the elite teams starting a new era. |
In short, no. One of the things that seperates CFB from every other sport is the attention to history.
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| JustisM wrote: | | No but I would be cool with that. Oregon was pretty much crap until the pick and I'd be cool with being one of the elite teams starting a new era. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| Supersuavesky wrote: | | JustisM wrote: | | No but I would be cool with that. Oregon was pretty much crap until the pick and I'd be cool with being one of the elite teams starting a new era. |
In short, no. One of the things that seperates CFB from every other sport is the attention to history. |
Why is that better in college football than any other sport?
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OP raises a legitimate question. In the short term, no, as I'm sure it probably didn't right away when the Super Bowl first began either. People probably right away didn't walk around saying the Cleveland Browns have never won anything, or LOL at the Eagles they've never won a thing.
But, you give it about 30-40 to years(maybe less), and by that time people may have already begun to view the pre-2014 National Champions in the same light that we currently view the pre-Super Bowl era NFL Champions. Yeah they get credit and teams that haven't won with the playoff format will mention them, but at the end of the day the teams that have been the most successful under the playoff format will garner the most respect.
I don't think it's as far-fetched as you guys might think. The biggest difference is the emphasis placed on tradition in college football compared to the NFL, but I still think it'll be interesting to see where it goes.
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JustisM
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:00 am Post subject: |
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at people thinking Oregon isn't an elite team right now
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| Supersuavesky wrote: | | JustisM wrote: | | No but I would be cool with that. Oregon was pretty much crap until the pick and I'd be cool with being one of the elite teams starting a new era. |
In short, no. One of the things that seperates CFB from every other sport is the attention to history. |
Except, y'know, baseball and basketball.
To answer the question at hand: No. The reason the pre-Super Bowl era dissolved into irrelevance is largely because it took place before football was the focal point of the American sports universe. CFB is switching to a 4-team playoff model at the pique of its popularity, and early projections suggest this should increase the monetary 'action' generated by BCS bowls by nearly 300%.
To answer the other topic that strangely came up here: Oregon is an elite team.
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| GaTechRavens wrote: | | Supersuavesky wrote: | | JustisM wrote: | | No but I would be cool with that. Oregon was pretty much crap until the pick and I'd be cool with being one of the elite teams starting a new era. |
In short, no. One of the things that seperates CFB from every other sport is the attention to history. |
Why is that better in college football than any other sport? |
Because it's not a pro team.
Any pro team has the threat of moving and changing fan bases. CFB can be effectively passed on through generations by pure word of mouth and passion alone.
He'll, I'm a perfect example myself. Haven't lived in NEB for nearing 20 years and never even thought to give another institution the time of day.
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| Supersuavesky wrote: | | GaTechRavens wrote: | | Supersuavesky wrote: | | JustisM wrote: | | No but I would be cool with that. Oregon was pretty much crap until the pick and I'd be cool with being one of the elite teams starting a new era. |
In short, no. One of the things that seperates CFB from every other sport is the attention to history. |
Why is that better in college football than any other sport? |
Because it's not a pro team.
Any pro team has the threat of moving and changing fan bases. CFB can be effectively passed on through generations by pure word of mouth and passion alone.
He'll, I'm a perfect example myself. Haven't lived in NEB for nearing 20 years and never even thought to give another institution the time of day. |
That doesn't have to do with attention to history though. Maybe tradition, but not history. They're two different things. The NBA has the most identifiable history of any sport, because they have clear eras and dynasties that the league still goes out of its way to promote. If you ask someone about the history of college football, they won't be able to tell you as much.
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No, not gonna happen. Only people who want/think history/tradition doesn't/won't matter is people who root for teams without history/tradition.
You really think the following teams aren't going to matter and/or are just going to forget about history/tradition:
Michigan
OSU
Alabama
Texas
USC
Oklahoma
Nebraska
PSU
LSU
Georgia
Tennessee
Auburn
Florida
FSU
Miami (FL)
VT
etc.
Even schools that don't have a ton of history (comparatively speaking) like Miami and VT still embrace their history. History/tradition is part of what makes college football special.
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^ I'm not saying the individual schools are going to forget about their own tradition (and those schools listed above will all likely continue their dominance into the playoff era, so that's a moot point anyway).
I'm simply asking if, on the broad scale, college football's past winners/dynasties will be seperated from the winners of the playoff era, much like how the nfl's dynasties are split by the super bowl era. |
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| Bohlmann20 wrote: | ^ I'm not saying the individual schools are going to forget about their own tradition (and those schools listed above will all likely continue their dominance into the playoff era, so that's a moot point anyway).
I'm simply asking if, on the broad scale, college football's past winners/dynasties will be seperated from the winners of the playoff era, much like how the nfl's dynasties are split by the super bowl era. |
No. While those are all individual teams, they are also connected together.
For example:
Michigan alone
Michigan-OSU rivalry
Michigan-OSU-PSU-NEB in the B1G
The all build off of each other and are a key part of one another, in addition to being able to stand alone.
I'm sure it is similar with the SEC and some of the others as well.
CFB in general is very tradition-laden.
And if "those schools listed above will all likely continue their dominance into the playoff era" as you state, your second sentence/question "I'm simply asking if, on the broad scale, college football's past winners/dynasties will be seperated from the winners of the playoff era, much like how the nfl's dynasties are split by the super bowl era." will become largely inconsequential, as the same general teams will continue to be successful.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: What will become of college football's history? |
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| Bohlmann20 wrote: | If this isn't worth a thread, lock it, but I am curious.
With there being a playoff now (well, in 2014), will the history of college football become irrelevent?
To better convey my question, I'm going to compare it to the nfl. Once the nfl started the "Super Bowl" (yes, I realize there was more significant change to the nfl in the 60's), the championship winners of years previous became more or less irrelevant.
Will the same happen to College Football? |
Pre BCS era Champions are like pre Super Bowl era Champions so pre playoff champs will be looked at the same way.
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