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thrILL! 
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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True dat bcuz the big blue gang has always done whatever it wants anyway. _________________
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NateDawg
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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There seems to be some confusion over the laws in this thread. Probable cause to arrest is totally different from being allowed to search a vehicle. Those two articles posted are related to making arrests, not consenting to vehicle searches. The plain smell of marijuana or a canine hit on a vehicle = automatic search of the vehicle. Probable cause relates strictly to arresting someone.
As for the comment that you shouldn't cooperate with police, that's probably not a good idea. You would be surprised how much an officer can come up with to hem you up, if you get on his bad side. _________________
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ramssuperbowl99
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| NateDawg wrote: | | There seems to be some confusion over the laws in this thread. Probable cause to arrest is totally different from being allowed to search a vehicle. Those two articles posted are related to making arrests, not consenting to vehicle searches. The plain smell of marijuana or a canine hit on a vehicle = automatic search of the vehicle. Probable cause relates strictly to arresting someone. | You're right - I looked into this more.
(Side note) That immediately seems completely abusable. How does one disprove the smell of marijuana coming from a vehicle in court? The answer is that it's almost impossible, even if there wasn't any pot in the car. Therefore, any cop could simply "smell" marijuana whenever a search was refused.
| NateDawg wrote: | | As for the comment that you shouldn't cooperate with police, that's probably not a good idea. You would be surprised how much an officer can come up with to hem you up, if you get on his bad side. | I'm not saying be a jerk. I'm saying, if an officer asks to have a chat with you about something, decline. If they ask to search your car, decline.
You should still call them 'sir' or 'ma'am' and be polite and everything. _________________
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NateDawg
 Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 14768 Location: Hilliard
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with you -- there's nothing wrong with using your freedom to decline a vehicular search. If you have nothing to hide though, it's generally best to just cooperate, though. I've seen quite a few people who don't cooperate, just because they don't like the police, even if they have nothing to hide. I've had people take off and run from me for no reason, when they don't have a warrant, drugs, or a gun. Then, they end up getting tased, arrested and go to jail on obstructing charges. Other people might not tell an officer their name when asked. When there's an open container sitting in a huddle of people, with that person trying to play tough guy, guess who gets the citation that an officer never wanted to write in the first place? Traffic tickets are written to people who fail to signal when leaving the curb, simply because of someone's attitude towards the police. But yes, I do agree that you have the right to refuse a vehicular search, pat-downs, etc. when you have the choice. I just know from experience that with most officers, if they think someone is trying to hide something, they are generally going to do everything in their power to play the grey area and get what they want out of the situation. I'm not saying it's right.
With the plain smell of marijuana, yes, it does get abused from time to time. It works in an officer's favor with a canine search as well. As an officer, I might call for a canine to walk around a vehicle, if I think there is a gun or narcotics in the vehicle. If somebody smoked marijuana earlier that day or perhaps before that, there could still be traces of marijuana odor, and the dog may hit on the car. Therefore, I might get into the car and retrieve something unrelated to marijuana in the vehicle. _________________
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coors
Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Posts: 6367 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Man............................ Cro is such an idiot.
I'm in Athens.. I was here the night it happened, and the next morning when the news started to break and circulate around town there were literally people celebrating, people crying, and people picketing down Broad Street. Athens that morning was something i'll forever remember.
I think the kid is a total idiot.. he was a total idiot when he was in Columbus... he was an idiot when on signing day he brought a bulldog puppy to win peoples hearts.. he was an idiot when he failed a drugtest and missed a game, was an idiot when he did something "violation of team rules" is all they said when he missed a quarter against Vandy, and he is a big dumb idiot for carrying a gun anywhere in Clarke County and Athens. I don't see why anyone could possibly be surprised by this, or anyone could feel bad for him. The kid is good... really good. However, it doesn't matter how good he is, he can't run away from felony weapons charges on top of every other incident he has racked up in Athens. I'm actually kind of happy/relieved that Cro is no longer on the team. Why? He no longer can be a distraction to us, plain and simple. I don't have the slightest idea where he will end up playing ball at.. I doubt even Georgia State would want to bring this kid in.
I can't even begin with the things I know for a fact that he's done in Athens since he's been there, and I won't begin with all of the rumors of things he did/has done/does in Athens.. Cro is certainly not the sharpest tool in the shed.
There is so much I want to say/add about this.. I just don't know if I should. _________________
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Dawgpoun8017 
Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Posts: 9082 Location: Waterloo,NY
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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According to ESPN, he is headed to Alabama State _________________ 2013 Joe Blackburn HOF Award Recipient
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adam9 
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 9549 Location: Cartersville, GA
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | According to ESPN, he is headed to Alabama State | I heard that too. What a waste of talent. _________________
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Dr. Philly
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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The year that we are close to competing against the SEC West, we have all of these arrests. _________________
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coors
Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Posts: 6367 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | According to ESPN, he is headed to Alabama State |
... just a matter of time before Cro gets kicked out of Bama State also. If he can't stay out of trouble in Athens... have fun in Montgomery Cro.. _________________
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fretgod99 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| ramssuperbowl99 wrote: | | fretgod99 wrote: | | ninerfanwheelz wrote: | | ramssuperbowl99 wrote: | | Cheesehead430 wrote: | | Crowell is an idiot this was bound to happen... | He was an idiot for consenting to a search of his car.
Lesson of the day - don't ever, ever, ever, ever, ever cooperate with police. | Kinda makes me think he didn't know about the gun.
But yeah, I agree. | You'd think that, but it's usually not the case. | Please explain - why would someone who knows they have an illegal firearm ever consent to a search?
Do you just have really stupid clients? | It happens all the time. People get intimidated by authority. An officer asks to look through the vehicle, and everyone is accustomed to acquiescing to law enforcement. Even if they have contraband sitting right next to them, they typically consent. Some hope it won't be found. Some forget. Some think they're just boned at that point. But it happens all the time. _________________
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Dr. Philly
Joined: 02 Nov 2009 Posts: 22769
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:46 am Post subject: |
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We do need a disciplinarian though, not saying that this is all Richt's fault, but with Crowell's background he should've at least watched over him though. _________________
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ramssuperbowl99
Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 17801
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| fretgod99 wrote: | | ramssuperbowl99 wrote: | | fretgod99 wrote: | | ninerfanwheelz wrote: | | ramssuperbowl99 wrote: | | Cheesehead430 wrote: | | Crowell is an idiot this was bound to happen... | He was an idiot for consenting to a search of his car.
Lesson of the day - don't ever, ever, ever, ever, ever cooperate with police. | Kinda makes me think he didn't know about the gun.
But yeah, I agree. | You'd think that, but it's usually not the case. | Please explain - why would someone who knows they have an illegal firearm ever consent to a search?
Do you just have really stupid clients? | It happens all the time. People get intimidated by authority. An officer asks to look through the vehicle, and everyone is accustomed to acquiescing to law enforcement. Even if they have contraband sitting right next to them, they typically consent. Some hope it won't be found. Some forget. Some think they're just boned at that point. But it happens all the time. | That's unbelieveable. I'm trying to wrap my head around it and it's giving me a headache. _________________
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