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 Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:51 pm Post subject: MJD says Emmits Record yardage doable |
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http://tracking.si.com/2012/06/27/jaguars-maurice-jones-drew-says-record-is-doable/
| Quote: | “Yeah, I think it’s doable,” Jones-Drew told KDSP-FM in Denver. ”I definitely think it’s doable. ”Once again, Emmitt Smith was in a different situation than a lot of us, though,” he said. “I mean, he had a Hall of Fame receiver, Hall of Fame quarterback, Hall of Fame offensive line, Hall of Fame fullback. Whoever put that team together did a heck of a job, and it just showed.”
Jones-Drew has 6,854 rushing yards in six seasons with the Jaguars. Smith had 8,956 yards through his first six years and finished with 18,355 yards. |
I know this is being talked about in the Gen forum and around the different sports media, I'm amazed that no body has posted it here yet. For those of you who live in the dark or just hadn't heard this yet. This was the response given by Maurice Jones Drew the other day in an interview when asked if he could break Emmitt's all time rushing record.
Umm MJD, I don't think so. The guy who had the best shot at doing it, who alot of us thought could make a serious threat for the crown, just retired, well short of reaching it.
So what's your all threats on this.
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What MJD said is complete ludacris because if that was true then running backs like Joesph Addai and Benjarvis Green-Ellis "sorry if I misspelled the law firms name" would be in a similar situation as Emmitt because Addai played with future Hall of Famers Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison while the law firm played with Future Hall of Famers as well in Tom Brady and Randy Moss.But are those two backs going to or are anywhere close to breaking Emmitts record the answer is no.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| J-Hopp wrote: | | What MJD said is complete ludacris because if that was true then running backs like Joesph Addai and Benjarvis Green-Ellis "sorry if I misspelled the law firms name" would be in a similar situation as Emmitt because Addai played with future Hall of Famers Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison while the law firm played with Future Hall of Famers as well in Tom Brady and Randy Moss.But are those two backs going to or are anywhere close to breaking Emmitts record the answer is no. |
I'd say that you're both correct. Emmitt did have an advantage by playing alongside a HOF QB and HOF WR and one of the greatest o-lines in the history of the game, but much of his success was also based on his incredible durability and the fact that we ran ball A TON back then. It's a combination of many factors, not just one or two things.
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| flyingmonkey30 wrote: | | In this day and age, it won't be broken. It is a passing league and running backs split time much more now than they did back then. Smith almost reached 400 carries a number of times. And he only averaged 4.2 YPA, so you know he ran the ball a ton |
Only averaged 4.2 YPC! I always thought that was the standard avg for a good running back! And anything over 4.5 was consider great! Maybe Im wrong!
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You know what drives me nuts? People calling the 90's line a hall of fame line. Only one player from that line is in the hall, and larry Allen didn't join the team until 1994. Kevin gogan isn't a hall of famer. Nor is mark tuinei, Erik Williams, Nate newton or mark stepnoski. Emmitt had almost 9000 yards rushing in his first six years, and none of the players from the first four are in the hall of fame. People need to quit whining. "oh he was given better chances to succeed." to last 15 years in the NFL as a starter at one of the most physically punishing positions in all of sports and only miss 14 games is a testament to work ethic and commitment to excellence. until another player comes along and does something even remotely close to what emmitt did, I won't even consider an argument against him as the best OVERALL running back of all time. Others may have been faster, flashier, hit harder or made more highlight reels, but no one did their job day in and day out like emmitt. And THAT IS WHY HE WAS AND STILL IS GREAT. Not because of a "hall of fame" oline that lacks hall of famers. Not because of a surgeon of a quarterback or the original flamboyant WR, who had more heart on his own than most NFL teams have in total. But because he was committed to being the best. He was committed to victory, and to greatness. Day in and out, he knew what needed to be done, and he knew what he needed to do in order to do it. And he did.
Hell, it doesn't even have to be in football. Find me someone with the drive of an emmitt smith, and I'll show you a rich, successful human being. They only come along two or four times a generation. And that one happened to wear the star.
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| StarStillWining wrote: | | flyingmonkey30 wrote: | | In this day and age, it won't be broken. It is a passing league and running backs split time much more now than they did back then. Smith almost reached 400 carries a number of times. And he only averaged 4.2 YPA, so you know he ran the ball a ton |
Only averaged 4.2 YPC! I always thought that was the standard avg for a good running back! And anything over 4.5 was consider great! Maybe Im wrong! |
Well, lets compare with other top running backs
Jim Brown- 5.2
Barry Sanders- 5.0
Gale Sayers- 5.0
O.J. Simpson- 4.7
Walter Payton- 4.4
LaDainian Tomlinson- 4.3
I put a couple guys who were close to that 4.2 mark that Emmitt had, but it just goes to show that he ran the ball so much more than anybody else ever did. Durability was his strong suit, as Plan mentioned
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| Ace5 wrote: | You know what drives me nuts? People calling the 90's line a hall of fame line. Only one player from that line is in the hall, and larry Allen didn't join the team until 1994. Kevin gogan isn't a hall of famer. Nor is mark tuinei, Erik Williams, Nate newton or mark stepnoski. Emmitt had almost 9000 yards rushing in his first six years, and none of the players from the first four are in the hall of fame. People need to quit whining. "oh he was given better chances to succeed." to last 15 years in the NFL as a starter at one of the most physically punishing positions in all of sports and only miss 14 games is a testament to work ethic and commitment to excellence. until another player comes along and does something even remotely close to what emmitt did, I won't even consider an argument against him as the best OVERALL running back of all time. Others may have been faster, flashier, hit harder or made more highlight reels, but no one did their job day in and day out like emmitt. And THAT IS WHY HE WAS AND STILL IS GREAT. Not because of a "hall of fame" oline that lacks hall of famers. Not because of a surgeon of a quarterback or the original flamboyant WR, who had more heart on his own than most NFL teams have in total. But because he was committed to being the best. He was committed to victory, and to greatness. Day in and out, he knew what needed to be done, and he knew what he needed to do in order to do it. And he did.
Hell, it doesn't even have to be in football. Find me someone with the drive of an emmitt smith, and I'll show you a rich, successful human being. They only come along two or four times a generation. And that one happened to wear the star. |
Bravo sir, bravo.
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| Ace5 wrote: | You know what drives me nuts? People calling the 90's line a hall of fame line. Only one player from that line is in the hall, and larry Allen didn't join the team until 1994. Kevin gogan isn't a hall of famer. Nor is mark tuinei, Erik Williams, Nate newton or mark stepnoski. Emmitt had almost 9000 yards rushing in his first six years, and none of the players from the first four are in the hall of fame. People need to quit whining. "oh he was given better chances to succeed." to last 15 years in the NFL as a starter at one of the most physically punishing positions in all of sports and only miss 14 games is a testament to work ethic and commitment to excellence. until another player comes along and does something even remotely close to what emmitt did, I won't even consider an argument against him as the best OVERALL running back of all time. Others may have been faster, flashier, hit harder or made more highlight reels, but no one did their job day in and day out like emmitt. And THAT IS WHY HE WAS AND STILL IS GREAT. Not because of a "hall of fame" oline that lacks hall of famers. Not because of a surgeon of a quarterback or the original flamboyant WR, who had more heart on his own than most NFL teams have in total. But because he was committed to being the best. He was committed to victory, and to greatness. Day in and out, he knew what needed to be done, and he knew what he needed to do in order to do it. And he did.
Hell, it doesn't even have to be in football. Find me someone with the drive of an emmitt smith, and I'll show you a rich, successful human being. They only come along two or four times a generation. And that one happened to wear the star. |
As I mentioned in a previous post, it was a combination of multiple factors. In my opinion, it would be disingenuous to rule out any of the elements which contributed to his success because they were all a part of said success.
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| I love when people say anyone could have run behind that line. Jerry thought that too. Then after he saw Derrick Lassic run for two straight losses to start the season, he hurried up and gave Emmitt a new contract. |
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Michael Irvin had a really good comment on that last night. Those who watched NFLN know what I'm talking about. He basically said that people talk about the OL but that no other running back got even close to the same production that Emmitt did out of the same OL (not in practice or in games). People forget that the only real change initially to the OL was Mark Stepnoski who was very good but also undersized. Emmitt won a rushing title with basically the same OL that went 3-13 and 1-15.
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Too many RBBC
Not enough attempts
Too fragile
Doubt he or any other RB ever comes close.
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LOL if it's so doable then go ahead and do it, short stuff.
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| Didn't I read an article a few weeks ago by someone in the jaguars saying MJD was already slowing down? |
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Sorry to come to the party late guys, I was on vacation. Anyway, here is what chaps my arse about this whole topic. People are already looking at Brett Favre and saying his records will never be broken. The most misleading of all records in all of sports is passing yards for a QB. I have asked this question a million times and to date, no one can give me a justifiable answer. It is always: "well, that is how it is." I will ask it one more time;
Why should a QB get credit for a 50 yard pass when he throws the ball 5 yards and his reciever runs (rushes) for 45 yards? That goes down in the stat sheets as a 50 yard pass completion. HUH!?!?!?!?!?!? He threw the damn ball 5, 5 frickin yards!!!!!
Please understand my logic, this mis-leading stat greatly favors the QB that plays in a West-coast offensive unit. The entire West-coast offense is predicated on a short passing game that allows the reciever to turn up field behind a screen of blockers and get maximum yardage.
Not saying guys like Favre and Young didn't air it out, but why is that so willingly accepted as a legit stat?
How does this compare to Emmitt Smith and the question at hand you ask? Simple, Emmitt played in an offense that used the run to set up the passing game. He was the spark that made that machine go. Sure, he got more opportunities to carry the ball, which also meant more opportunites to fumble, get hurt, lose yardage etc etc etc.
Look at all the opportunities guys like favre got to throw the ball in their pass happy offense. How many Int's does Favre have?
Do you follow me?
To sum up, with all those opportunities, Smith should be praised even more because he made the most of them about 99% of the time. He also won multiple rushing titles, superbowls and MVP awards.
So, shut your mouth Maurice (Sorry i don't play the initial thing, it is a pretentious, short cut to thinking) and carry the ball as much as Emmitt and as long as he did and pray you even sniff his success. |
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