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xlfrosti
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | xlfrosti wrote: | Restructure Contracts
Josh Freeman
Current Contract 5 Years 26 Million 10.245 Guaranteed
New Contract 5 Years 50 Million 25 Guaranteed
| Quote: | Current Contract
2013 Base Salary - 8,430,000 Signing Bonus 2,000,000 Cap Hit 10,430,000 |
| Quote: | New Contract
2013 Base Salary - 2,000,000 Signing Bonus 1,500,000 Cap Hit 3,500,000
2014 Base Salary - 8,000,000 Signing Bonus 4,000,000 Cap Hit 12,000,000
2015 Base Salary - 10,000,000 Signing Bonus 6,500,000 Cap Hit 16,500,000
2016 Base Salary - 15,000,000 Signing Bonus 6,500,000 Cap Hit 21,500,000
2017 Base Salary - 15,000,000 Signing Bonus 6,500,000 Cap Hit 21,500,000 |
The reason for the restructure of Freeman is because of the bad year he showed last year. Yeah it was because of the coaches and everything but he needs to show what he can do with the new wepons that we got him in last FA (V-Jack,Carl Nicks) and in the Draft (Doug Martin). The contract gives more then he would be making this year next year. He will be getting 2 million more. He has dropped 45 pounds this offseason which is a good thing. |
I’m not sure this is a fair deal…that is a near as makes no difference $7 million dollar difference between his expected pay and your new offer…I understand that you’re paying in more in the 2nd year of the new deal that you are in his current contract but I just don’t see it as realistic for a player or agent to accept a $7 million dollar pay cut in one year…accepting $2 or $3 million less in the last year of a deal to get a new long term contract done yes…but I don’t think I have ever seen a contract where $7 million was wiped out of the last year to sign a new deal…
I don’t know what the other GMs think? |
That's fine I can't give him maybe 5 million or something close to that
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | xlfrosti wrote: | Restructure Contracts
Josh Freeman
Current Contract 5 Years 26 Million 10.245 Guaranteed
New Contract 5 Years 50 Million 25 Guaranteed
| Quote: | Current Contract
2013 Base Salary - 8,430,000 Signing Bonus 2,000,000 Cap Hit 10,430,000 |
| Quote: | New Contract
2013 Base Salary - 2,000,000 Signing Bonus 1,500,000 Cap Hit 3,500,000
2014 Base Salary - 8,000,000 Signing Bonus 4,000,000 Cap Hit 12,000,000
2015 Base Salary - 10,000,000 Signing Bonus 6,500,000 Cap Hit 16,500,000
2016 Base Salary - 15,000,000 Signing Bonus 6,500,000 Cap Hit 21,500,000
2017 Base Salary - 15,000,000 Signing Bonus 6,500,000 Cap Hit 21,500,000 |
The reason for the restructure of Freeman is because of the bad year he showed last year. Yeah it was because of the coaches and everything but he needs to show what he can do with the new wepons that we got him in last FA (V-Jack,Carl Nicks) and in the Draft (Doug Martin). The contract gives more then he would be making this year next year. He will be getting 2 million more. He has dropped 45 pounds this offseason which is a good thing. |
I’m not sure this is a fair deal…that is a near as makes no difference $7 million dollar difference between his expected pay and your new offer…I understand that you’re paying in more in the 2nd year of the new deal that you are in his current contract but I just don’t see it as realistic for a player or agent to accept a $7 million dollar pay cut in one year…accepting $2 or $3 million less in the last year of a deal to get a new long term contract done yes…but I don’t think I have ever seen a contract where $7 million was wiped out of the last year to sign a new deal…
I don’t know what the other GMs think? |
Not a ggod deal for a franchise QB... It get's kind of annoying when people give star players hugely back-loaded contracts too.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| jfinley88 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | xlfrosti wrote: | Restructure Contracts
Josh Freeman
Current Contract 5 Years 26 Million 10.245 Guaranteed
New Contract 5 Years 50 Million 25 Guaranteed
| Quote: | Current Contract
2013 Base Salary - 8,430,000 Signing Bonus 2,000,000 Cap Hit 10,430,000 |
| Quote: | New Contract
2013 Base Salary - 2,000,000 Signing Bonus 1,500,000 Cap Hit 3,500,000
2014 Base Salary - 8,000,000 Signing Bonus 4,000,000 Cap Hit 12,000,000
2015 Base Salary - 10,000,000 Signing Bonus 6,500,000 Cap Hit 16,500,000
2016 Base Salary - 15,000,000 Signing Bonus 6,500,000 Cap Hit 21,500,000
2017 Base Salary - 15,000,000 Signing Bonus 6,500,000 Cap Hit 21,500,000 |
The reason for the restructure of Freeman is because of the bad year he showed last year. Yeah it was because of the coaches and everything but he needs to show what he can do with the new wepons that we got him in last FA (V-Jack,Carl Nicks) and in the Draft (Doug Martin). The contract gives more then he would be making this year next year. He will be getting 2 million more. He has dropped 45 pounds this offseason which is a good thing. |
I’m not sure this is a fair deal…that is a near as makes no difference $7 million dollar difference between his expected pay and your new offer…I understand that you’re paying in more in the 2nd year of the new deal that you are in his current contract but I just don’t see it as realistic for a player or agent to accept a $7 million dollar pay cut in one year…accepting $2 or $3 million less in the last year of a deal to get a new long term contract done yes…but I don’t think I have ever seen a contract where $7 million was wiped out of the last year to sign a new deal…
I don’t know what the other GMs think? |
Not a ggod deal for a franchise QB... It get's kind of annoying when people give star players hugely back-loaded contracts too. |
yep, I'm in the corner that Freeman needs more, certainly in his first year, he's the franchises future, should be backed as so 
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:49 am Post subject: |
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The Giants would like to place a first round tender on RFA WR Victor Cruz.
We'd also like to part ways with DT Chris Canty, OC David Baas, RB Ahmad Bradshaw, OL David Diehl and FS Antrell Rolle.
These cuts save the Giant's $25,350,000 and dead weight of $7,391,667
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The Giants offer a 4Year/$30M ($26M Guaranteed/$4Million Signing Bonus) contract to S Kenny Phillips
2013: $4,000,000.00 Base Salary + $750,000.00 Signing Bonus = $4,750,000.00 Cape Hit
2014: $5,000,000.00 Base Salary + $1,000,000.00 Signing Bonus = $6,000,000.00 Cap Hit
2015: $6,500,000.00 Base Salary + $1,000,000.00 Signing Bonus = $7,500,000.00 Cap Hit
2016: $6,750,000.00 Base Salary + $1,250,000.00 Signing Bonus =$8,000,000.00
This is a huge contract for Phillips I might be overpaying him but I do think he is one of the best Safeties in the league. I think this contract is a fair judge of his abilities and potential, he did just come back to have career highs in every major statistical category this year, and he'll seriously only get better from here.
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xlfrosti
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Josh Freeman
New Contract - 5 Years 50 Million 25 Guaranteed
2013 Base Salary 5,000,000 Signing Bonus 3,000,000 Cap Hit 8,000,000
2014 Base Salary 10,500,000 Signing Bonus 5,500,000 Cap Hit 16,000,000
2015 Base Salary 10,500,000 Signing Bonus 5,500,000 Cap Hit 16,000,000
2016 Base Salary 10,500,000 Signing Bonus 5,500,000 Cap Hit 16,000,000
2017 Base Salary 10,500,000 Signing Bonus 5,500,000 Cap Hit 16,000,000
How about this?
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| xlfrosti wrote: | Josh Freeman
New Contract - 5 Years 50 Million 25 Guaranteed
2013 Base Salary 5,000,000 Signing Bonus 3,000,000 Cap Hit 8,000,000
2014 Base Salary 10,500,000 Signing Bonus 5,500,000 Cap Hit 16,000,000
2015 Base Salary 10,500,000 Signing Bonus 5,500,000 Cap Hit 16,000,000
2016 Base Salary 10,500,000 Signing Bonus 5,500,000 Cap Hit 16,000,000
2017 Base Salary 10,500,000 Signing Bonus 5,500,000 Cap Hit 16,000,000
How about this? |
I would say that is a fairer deal |
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I think Kenny Phillips and Freeman's contracts are right on the money. Phillips should be anywhere from 25-30m after the Tyvon Branch deal, though you could probably lessen the guaranteed money a little bit.
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Cowboys restructure DeMarcus Ware's contract by turning some of the base salary into signing bonuses...
Before restructure
2013: $5.5M base + $5.303M SB + $500K GM = $11.303M cap hit
2014: $12.25M base + $1.303M SB = $13.553M cap hit
2015: $13.75M base + $1.303M SB = $15.053M cap hit
After restructure
2013: $840K base + $6.856M SB + $500K GM = $8.196M cap hit
2014: $12.25M base + $2.856M SB = $15.106M cap hit
2015: $13.75M base + $2.856M SB = $16.606M cap hit
2013 savings of $3.107M
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The 49ers axe C / Jonathan Goodwin... cap relief = 3.7 mil
previous cap = 129.489.015
current cap vs the 128.4 max = 120.499.015
Available Cap Space = 7.900.985
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The Dallas Cowboys would like to restructure Miles Austin's contract.
Before restructure:
2013: $6.732M base + $1.57M SB = $8.302M cap hit
2014: $5.5M base + $1.57M SB = $7.07M cap hit
2015: $6.888M base + $1.57M SB = $8.458M cap hit
2016: $11.38M base + $0M SB = $11.38M cap hit
After restructure:
2013: $840K base + $3.534M SB = $4.374M cap hit
2014: $5.5M base + $3.534M SB = $9.034M cap hit
2015: $6.888M base + $3.534M SB = $10.422M cap hit
2016: $11.38M base + $0M SB = $11.38M cap hit
Cap Savings of $3.928M
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| So do we have a new schedule for this mock yet? |
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | So do we have a new schedule for this mock yet? |
Give me a few hours to rework things...
Also, we have some actual reworked contracts to consider. Do y'all want to use the actual reworked contracts or those submitted by GM's in this sim?
I would vote to use real contracts and the GM's would get back one of their re-signings (if they choose to use it)
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| jch1911 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | So do we have a new schedule for this mock yet? |
Give me a few hours to rework things...
Also, we have some actual reworked contracts to consider. Do y'all want to use the actual reworked contracts or those submitted by GM's in this sim?
I would vote to use real contracts and the GM's would get back one of their re-signings (if they choose to use it)
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I think we should use the real life resignings but with the new schedule there should be a definitive cut off date for real world events. |
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