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| More Dominant Sports Legend? |
| Roger Federer |
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20% |
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| Wayne Gretzky |
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65% |
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| Other. |
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x0x 
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 13981 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:33 am Post subject: Most Dominant Legend of His Sport? ( Federer vs. Gretzky ) |
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Now....I personally think Bobby Orr and Mario Lemieux are greater skaters than Wayne Gretzky. I personally think Gretzky was a pussball who played in an inflated era of hockey.
However that doesn't take away his countless records. Likewise, Federer has his own page of records.
Achievements by Federer
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texans_uk 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:38 am Post subject: |
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I don't see that you can argue Federer was.
There was a long period where he dominated the mens, and he didn't really have any peers. _________________
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malak1
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| Fedor Emilienenko didn't loose for nearly ten years, if i recall correctly. |
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seminoles1 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:04 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure how you compare a team sport player to an individual sport player, but I guess I'll take Federer. _________________
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1BackInBlackFan 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Gretzky's records will never be broken. He's my choice. _________________
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x0x 
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 13981 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| 1BackInBlackFan wrote: | | Gretzky's records will never be broken. He's my choice. |
This is often the mark of domination.
In Federer's case, the 23 consecutive Grand Slam semifinals is near unbreakable. Considering no player since Lendl has even got 10 in a row.
Then there's all the other ones that are unlikely to be broken. 6 in a row at Wimbledon or U.S. Open and winning two majors at the same time for 4 consecutive years as well. _________________ Legends Never Die. They Breathe Through The New Generation.
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redsoxsuck05 
Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Posts: 7555 Location: LI
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Gretzky.
Best hockey player who ever existed and he has the stats to show it (longevity counts too). _________________
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TommyC376 
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 8722 Location: Capital Wasteland
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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His nickname is "The Great One", #99 retired in the NHL.
One season he scored 92 goals, then 4 seasons later had 163 assists ... 2 straight 200 point seasons ... Wayne is the best and should win this poll. _________________
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redsoxsuck05 
Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Posts: 7555 Location: LI
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| TommyC376 wrote: | His nickname is "The Great One", #99 retired in the NHL.
One season he scored 92 goals, then 4 seasons later had 163 assists ... 2 straight 200 point seasons ... Wayne is the best and should win this poll. |
People like to perpetuate this myth that Gretzky while great would score as much or even less than Crosby had he played today...ignoring the fact that he'd outscore his peers by 60 or 70 points in his prime. Or how about an old, hobbled Gretzky scoring 97 in the dead puck era for the Rangers?
Federer is with peers, Gretzky is without. _________________
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x0x 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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It's funny cause I posted this poll in a hockey forum and it's 12-11 for Federer right now.
Gretzky did outmatch his peers, but you need to go by percentages, not raw totals. Then you have to factor in supporting talent.
Obviously we're comparing an individual sport to a team sport.
Federer in his prime was untouchable. That epic against Safin is the only way you could beat Federer in his prime outside of clay. And the only reason he didn't win 4 or 5 French Opens is because Nadal is arguably the greatest player on that surface for all time.
Federer's peers only started beating him when he was older and they were in their physical prime.
I remember reading an article on how Andy Roddick would probably be a 10 Time Slam Champion if Federer didn't exist in his time. _________________ Legends Never Die. They Breathe Through The New Generation.
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91jmay 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Refuse to compare an individual sport athlete with a team sport athlete. Impossible to do. _________________
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Dr. Philly
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| 91jmay wrote: | | Refuse to compare an individual sport athlete with a team sport athlete. Impossible to do. |
This. _________________
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bkobow05 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Meh. Super Mario was better.
Give me Anderson Silva. _________________
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JaguarCrazy2832 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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It is a really tough comparison but I'd take Gretsky. I think he is without a doubt the GOAT in the NHL, but I think there are Tennis players that are on Federer's level _________________
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texans_uk 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Can I also point out Federer in his prime never had competition on all surfaces like Borg, Connors, McEnroe etc. _________________
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