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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cornerbacks

1.) DeMarcus Milliner [CB; Alabama]
2.) Xavier Rhodes [CB/S; Florida State]

3.) Jordan Poyer [CB; Oregon State]

Height: 6'0"
Weight: 190
NFL Comparison: Tarell Brown [CB; San Francisco 49ers]

Strengths: Pretty good speed, should have enough speed to keep up with most receivers in the NFL. Displays good quickness and sharp cutting abilities. Extremely athletic. Very competitive. Anticipates where the quarterback is going to throw the ball really well. Uses his hands well to defend to keep the ball away from the receiver. Very good in coverage, a natural in press coverage bumping his man and running with him. Not afraid to mix it up with a receiver. Looks for the big plays, whether it be through an interception or the big hit. Very high awareness. Fluid hips. Smooth backpedal, light on his feet. Experienced. Has experience returning kicks. Might have the ability to play safety as well. Very much a playmaker in the Beavers secondary.

Weakness: Can tend to go for the big play too often, and not wrap up. Can get overaggressive and can cause him to get burnt. A really inconsistent tackler. Doesn't play with very good technique, needs a coach who will drill it into him. Has issues shedding blockers to make plays on the ball carrier. Has some minor injury concerns. Some character concerns will need to be cleared up as he was arrested back in May.

Overall: Jordan Poyer made some noise with a really good year this year, but he'll need to measure well at the combine to cement himself as a first round pick. I've got serious doubts that he's the 6'10" he's listed at, but measuring at 5'10" or smaller will really hurt his stock. Jordan Poyer right now figures to be one of many cornerbacks off the board, but he appears firmly behind Dee Milliner and Johnthan Banks. He'll need to show up well at the combine if he wants to go top twenty. Otherwise, he looks like he could slip into Day 2.


4.) Darius Slay [CB; Mississippi State]

Height: 5'11 7/8"
Weight: 192
NFL Comparison: Antoine Cason [CB; San Diego Chargers]

Strengths: He's got good size for an NFL corner, and has the speed (4.36 forty yard dash) to stick there for the duration of his career. His large frame and long arms project well for his ability to deflect passes away from receivers. Knows hows to use his length to his advantage. Made huge strides as a player his senior season, and could even argue that he was better than his teammate, Johnthan Banks, last year. Shows flexibility in his hips, and the ability to turn and run with a receiver with ease. Shows strong COD skills even out of his backpedal. Reads play action well, and not afraid to come up when the play turns into a running play. Does seem to have a solid understanding of leverage, especially when turning to run defend. Does a good job forcing the running back to the sidelines in that situation. Has shown the heads up play to strip the ball from the ball carrier when they're not paying attention. Can catch the ball carrier from behind with his speed. Moves well in space. Reacts quickly in zone coverage, and seems to have the physical skill sets to play in man coverage. Has extra value as special teams player where he played a significant role prior to his breakout senior year. Played on both kick and punt coverage.

Weakness: As good as he was this year, it was his first year playing a significant amount of snaps so he's got limited experience and his technique still needs quite a bit of work. Right now, he uses his natural athleticism more than he uses his technique which won't work in the NFL. Footwork is still a mess, as he seems to have wasted movement that doesn't seem to be very productive. Might have some issues mirroring smaller, quicker receiver with his long limbs. Not very physical right now, and part of that is the mindset. More of a finesse corner than a press corner at this point in his career. Not real great ball skills as he'll lose the ball when he's dropping back in coverage, needs to do a better job of locating the ball and making a play on it. Needs to get stronger as well so he can contend with bigger, more physical receivers.

Overall: Once you get past the consensus best two cornerbacks in this class in Dee Milliner and Xavier Rhodes, it becomes pick the cornerback that you like most. For me, that is Darius Slay and I'll go to bat for him. He's got all the tools you want in a cornerback with size, speed, and desire to be great. He went from being a relative unknown prior to the season to being amongst the best cornerback prospects in this year's class. He's got a great frame that he is not afraid to use, and the speed to run with any receiver. Give him a year or two with some good coaching, and you could have a perennial All-Pro on your roster for relative cheap. I've heard his draft stock is around the third round, but I could honestly see a team taking a shot on him late in the first round. He's going to be a really good cornerback with the proper coaching, and he also brings extra value as a special teams player.


5.) Desmond Trufant [CB; Washington]
6.) Jamar Taylor [CB; Boise State]
7.) Dwayne Gratz [CB; UConn]
8.) DJ Hayden [CB; Houston]
9.) Johnthan Banks [CB/S; Mississippi State]
10.) Will Davis [CB; Utah State]
11.) Robert Alford [CB; Southeastern Louisiana]
12.) Bildi Wreh-Wilson [CB; UConn]
13.) Terry Hawthorne [CB; Illinois]


14.) Logan Ryan [CB; Rutgers]

Height: 6'0"
Weight: 190
NFL Comparison: Brandon Flowers [CB; Kansas City Chiefs]

Strengths: Logan Ryan isn't afraid of getting physical with receivers at the line of scrimmage in press coverage. Does a good job using his hands to bump a receiver off of his route. Shows smooth hip and does a great job flipping his hip and running with the receiver. Moves well laterally, which makes him hard to beat on the underneath stuff. Has shown the ability to mirror a receiver down the field. His combination of strength and speed, he's tough to beat on the short routes. Has experience in both man and zone coverage. Seems to have strong awareness. Diagnoses plays quickly and reacts accordingly. Very willing to come up in run support. Not afraid to stick his nose up in run support.

Weakness: The biggest knock is that does he have the speed to run with NFL receivers. His straight-line speed is average at best. I'll be curious to see what his 40 yard dash time is. Needs to clean up his footwork and backpedal. Often has too much extra footwork, which can allow the receiver to create separation. Can let the receiver get too close to him when they're blocking. Doesn't have the length or speed to make up for it either. Seems to be much more adept in man coverage than zone coverage, seems to struggle more in zone coverage. Can be overaggressive and misread what the receiver is trying to do.

Overall: Logan Ryan is one of the few cornerbacks who come out almost NFL ready to play press coverage, and he's going to be of value to quite a few teams. But that will be dependent on how he performs at the combine. If he measures in short and runs a slow time, he could see himself fall into Day 3. If he measures what the Rutgers website has him listed at and runs a good 40 time, he could sneak into the first round. Logan Ryan has a lot of momentum with him right now, and it will be interesting to see how he can portray that into this offseason.



15.) Sanders Commings [CB; Georgia]
16.) B.W. Webb [CB; William & Mary]
17.) Tyrann Mathieu [CB; LSU]
18.) David Amerson [CB/FS; NC State]
19.) Leon McFadden [CB; San Diego State]
20.) Tharold Simon [CB; LSU]


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Safeties

1.) Kenny Vaccaro [S; Texas]


1.) Jonathan Cyprien [SS; FIU]

Height: 6'0"
Weight: 217
NFL Comparison: Jordan Babineaux [S; Tennessee Titans]

Strengths: There is no doubt who the emotional leader on the FIU defense is, as Jonathan Cyprien is a very vocal player. Not afraid to leave it all on the field, and competes hard bring a very physical presence to the game. Not afraid to hit anything that moves. If his coverage skills can improve, he could potentially be a serviceable free safety but right now looks more like an old-school strong safety. Flies up to the ball carrier to meet him in the backfield. Shows good ball skills. Shown the ability to find and track the ball. Cyprien is an aggressive defender and is quick in pursuit. Not afraid to lay the wood on receivers running across the middle with a punishing hit. Very comfortable when he's in the box. Showed good lateral agility during the Senior Bowl. Does a good job reading the quaterback's eyes and moving accordingly. A true student of the game and comes off determined in interviews.

Weakness: For as good as Jonathan Cyprien is in in the box, he's still quite raw in terms of his coverage skills and recognition of plays. Might get a bit confused against more complex formations and schemes. Can be a step too late in diagnosing plays, and really doesn't have the speed to make up for it either. Has a tendency to lock onto the receivers running underneath routes and will let receivers get behind him. Often has wasted movement, which hurts him in his ability to get to the receiver quickly. Probably doesn't have the straight-line speed to line up in man coverage. Speed of the game and level of competition are going to be an issue for teams to overcome since he played at Florida International.

Overall: Jonathan Cyprien is a helium prospect in this year's draft, and will likely hear his name in the first round or possibly early into the second round. With the lack of a clear elite safety prospect, Jonathan Cyrpien has a chance to be the first safety off the board. After a strong year for FIU, and a strong showing at the Senior Bowl his stock was soaring. But an average combine has left some teams with questions regarding his ability to play as an everydown safety at the next level. He's more of a class in-the-box strong safety that is more like the old school safety. He'll almost certainly have teams rank him differently based on what they're defensive schemes ask for, as teams that want their safeties to be interchangeable will likely rank him considerably lower than those that like a single high safety and willing to let their strong safety be more of a rover.


3.) Johnthan Banks [CB/S; Mississippi State]


4.) D.J. Swearinger [S; South Carolina]

Height: 5'10 1/2"
Weight: 208
NFL Comparison: T.J. Ward [S; Cleveland Browns]

Strengths: DJ Swearinger just brings the swagger to the defense, and will help change the culture of a team with the way he plays the game. He's not afraid to put his nose up in the middle of a pile and welcomes contact. He's not afraid of the ball carrier or even blockers flying downfield in a hurry. Plays even a bit reckless, and his teammates are going to love him since he leaves nothing on the field at the end of the game. He's shown the ability to play both safety positions, although strong safety appears to be his strong suit. He's shown the ability to line up over receivers and tight ends, and shown pretty good coverage when doing so. He's actually had some experience getting after the quarterback as well. From all accounts, he's got a strong work ethic and a great leader and teammate. Really will change the demeanor of the secondary he joins.

Weakness: While his aggressiveness is something that can't be taught, his overaggressive nature can get the best of him at times as he'll run past the ball carrier and left out of position. He doesn't really have the speed to catch up to the ball carrier when he gets caught out of position. With the league putting an emphasis on player safety, might become a target of the zebras for his style of play. Especially with him being prone to hitting "defenseless" receivers. While he's serviceable in coverage, he can get burned by quicker receivers. Ball skills are well-below average, and his hands really aren't that good either. He's got decent, but not great size for a safety but built quite compactly.

Overall: Swearinger is really going to be ranked differently on a team-by-team basis. Some are going to give him a healthy first round grade, while others might not have him on their board until Day 3. The one thing you know you're going to get out of him is someone who is going to leave everything on the field for his teammate. Might be an issue of getting targeted by the referees given his playing style, but overall he's a really good safety prospect.


5.) Philip Thomas [S; Fresno State]
6.) J.J. Wilcox [S; Georgia Southern]
7.) Eric Reid [SS; LSU]
8.) Tony Jefferson [FS; Oklahoma]
9.) Matt Elam [SS; Florida]


10.) Duke Williams [S; Nevada]

Height: 5'11"
Weight: 211
NFL Comparison: Chris Crocker [S; Cincinnati Bengals]

Strengths: Quick, agile and athletic that has shown the ability to play both safety positions, and can even potentially play some nickelback. Shows a quick reaction in run support. And does a great job quickly going from backpedal up into run support. Despite a smallish frame, he's quite physical and does a great job playing bigger than his actual size. Shows solid flexibility in her hip. Does a great job taking the correct angles to the ballcarrier. Shows a strong feeling in zone coverage and anticipates route running. Shows a strong second gear when chasing down receivers. Not afraid to get aggressive up near the line of scrimmage. Does a great job of moving laterally. Does a pretty good job mirroring receivers as they move across the line of scrimmage. Displays above-average straight-line speed.

Weakness: Ball skills are well below-average, and won't be a big time interception machine. Susceptible to play fakes and get indecisive in zone coverage, especially when there are multiple receivers in his vicinity. Doesn't always do a great job of wrapping up his receivers, instead going for the big hit. Might have shoulder injuries down the road with his tackling form, a coach will need to correct this concern. Because of his smallish size for a safety, he might have injury concerns down the road. Has some off the field red flags that are going to need to be cleared by GMs before teams invest a high into him.

Overall: Duke Williams is a bit of a forgotten man amongst the top ranked safeties, and with his lack of elite physical tools it's easy to see why. He's not an elite safety, but he's one that would be a decent safety on a bad team. I think he'll either go Day 2 or early on in Day 3 and potentially start opening day. He's more a free safety than a strong safety, but he's not afraid to put his nose up in run support. I'd like to see him in a team that runs a lot of Cover-2 primarily. Teams will have to do their background work on him, but he's got some upside and should at least be a key special teams player.


11.) Bacarri Rambo [FS; Georgia]
12.) Shamark Thomas [SS; Syracuse]
13.) Kemal Ishamel [S; UCF]
14.) Rontez Miles [S; California (PA)]
15.) Shawn Williams [S; Georgia]
16.) Cooper Taylor [S; Richmond]
17.) Rashard Hall [S; Clemson]
18.) Josh Evans [S; Florida]
19.) Jakar Hamilton [S; SC State]
20.) Earl Wolff [S; NC State]


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Special Teams


Kicker
1.) Dustin Hopkins [K; Florida State]
2.) Caleb Sturgis [K; Florida]
3.) Quinn Sharp [P/K; Oklahoma State]
4.) Brett Maher [K; Nebraska]
5.) Dan Conroy [K; Michigan State]


Punter
1.) Ryan Allen [P; Louisiana Tech]
2.) Brad Wing [P; LSU]
3.) Tress Way [P; Oklahoma]
4.) Quinn Sharp [P/K; Oklahoma State]
5.) Jeff Locke [P; UCLA]


Long Snapper
1.) Carson Tinker [LS; Alabama]
2.) P.J. Mangieri [LS; Nebraska]
3.) Patrick Greene [LS; Utah]
4.) Luke Ingram [LS; Hawaii]
5.) Jordan Cowart [LS; Utah]


Return Specialist
1.) Tavoy Moore [RS; Central Washington]
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You may now post. I'll try and get some rankings up as soon as possible, but post questions.


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Mock Drafts

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1.) Kansas City Chiefs - Tyler Wilson [QB; Arkansas]
2.) Jacksonville Jaguars - Geno Smith [QB; West Virginia]
3.) Oakland Raiders - Damontre Moore [DE; Texas A&M]
4.) Philadelphia Eagles - Luke Joeckel [OT; Texas A&M]
5.) Detroit Lions - Bjoern Werner [DE; Florida State]
6.) Cleveland Browns - Star Lotulelei [DT; Utah]
7.) Arizona Cardinals - Eric Fisher [OT; Central Michigan]
8.) Buffalo Bills - Jarvis Jones [OLB; Georgia]
9.) New York Jets - Dion Jordan [OLB; Oregon]
10.) Tennessee Titans - Chance Warmack [OG; Alabama]
11.) San Diego Chargers - Dee Milliner [CB; Alabama]
12.) Miami Dolphins - Lane Johnson [OT; Oklahoma]
13.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Xavier Rhodes [CB; Florida State]
14.) Carolina Panthers - Sheldon Richardson [DT; Missouri]
15.) New Orleans Saints - Barkevious Mingo [OLB; LSU]
16.) St. Louis Rams - Cordarelle Patterson [WR; Tennessee]
17.) Pittsburgh Steelers - Manti Te'o [LB; Notre Dame]
18.) Dallas Cowboys - Sam Montgomery [DE; LSU]
19.) New York Giants - Barrett Jones [OL; Alabama]
20.) Chicago Bears - Jonathan Cooper [C/OG; North Carolina]
21.) Cincinnati Bengals - Ezekial Ansah [DE; BYU]
22.) St. Louis Rams - Kenny Vacarro [S; Texas\
23.) Minnesota Vikings - Alec Ogletree [LB; Georgia]
24.) Indianapolis Colts - Justin Hunter [WR; Tennessee]
25.) Seattle Seahawks - Keenan Allen [WR; California]
26.) Green Bay Packers - Sharrif Floyd [DT; Florida]
27.) Houston Texans - Kawann Short [DT; Purdue]
28.) Denver Broncos - Matt Elam [S; Florida]
29.) New England Patriots - Alex Okafor [DE/OLB; Texas]
30.) Atlanta Falcons - Tyler Eifert [TE; Notre Dame]
31.) Baltimore Ravens - Kevin Minter [LB; LSU]
32.) San Francisco 49ers - Desmond Trufant [CB; Washington]


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Are you a [Sean] Porter fan or no?
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Its A Sabotage wrote:
Are you a [Sean] Porter fan or no?


I'm assuming you're referring to A&M's Porter. Very much a poor man's Von Miller. He's got a lot of the primary issues I saw going into Von Miller's last season at Texas A&M. A bit lighter than what I'd like to see, seems to get pushed around in the run game, and generally looks lost in zone coverage. I was late to the Von Miller party, but I don't love or hate Porter.
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Any time-table for when your rankings will be up?
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I have a few prospects i'm interested in. Could you tell me anything you like or dislike about any of these guys?
Jarvis Jones OLB/DE Georgia
Keenan Allen WR Cal
Bacarri Rambo S Georgia
Cobi Hamilton WR Arkansas
Devin Taylor DE South Carolina
T.J. McDonald S USC
Andre Ellington RB Clemson
Knile Davis RB Arkansas
Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State
Kenny Tate LB/S Maryland
Tavon Austin WR West Virginia
Alex Okafor DE Texas
Dion Jordan DE/OLB Oregon
Ryan Swope WR Texas A&M
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Since when was a few 14?
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Kenny Tate LB/S Maryland


Hopefully not stepping on any toes here;

Tate is not good enough in coverage nor does he have the anticipation to play as a safety at the next level. However he also does not have the size, physicality or instincts to be a linebacker. He is stuck in a bad spot, his best position in the NFL would be on the weakside of a cover two, but with that position becoming less and less utilized in the NFL.

He is physically impressive and that could get him drafted in the third round, and some coaches might see him as the physical prototype to be the guy who can match up with the atheltic tight ends entering into the league, but he does not have that kind of a skillset.

Basically a Taylor Mays style player without the over the top athleticism.
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zacapr22 wrote:
Kenny Tate LB/S Maryland


Hopefully not stepping on any toes here;

Tate is not good enough in coverage nor does he have the anticipation to play as a safety at the next level. However he also does not have the size, physicality or instincts to be a linebacker. He is stuck in a bad spot, his best position in the NFL would be on the weakside of a cover two, but with that position becoming less and less utilized in the NFL.

He is physically impressive and that could get him drafted in the third round, and some coaches might see him as the physical prototype to be the guy who can match up with the atheltic tight ends entering into the league, but he does not have that kind of a skillset.

Basically a Taylor Mays style player without the over the top athleticism.


I don't agree. I think Tate can be a NFL SS. I think Maryland made the wrong choice in switching him over. How good will he be? I don't know. I'd say his upside is Kam Chancellor while his downside is Aaron Rouse.
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ColumbusCrewzer wrote:
Any time-table for when your rankings will be up?


Don't want to put a definitive timeline down since I work about 40 hours a week and then anything else that comes up. I'll get quarterbacks for sure done tonight, and I'll try and get running backs tonight but no later than tomorrow. I'll try and get all the rankings up by the end of the week but no promise.
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jrry32 wrote:
khodder wrote:
zacapr22 wrote:
Kenny Tate LB/S Maryland


Hopefully not stepping on any toes here;

Tate is not good enough in coverage nor does he have the anticipation to play as a safety at the next level. However he also does not have the size, physicality or instincts to be a linebacker. He is stuck in a bad spot, his best position in the NFL would be on the weakside of a cover two, but with that position becoming less and less utilized in the NFL.

He is physically impressive and that could get him drafted in the third round, and some coaches might see him as the physical prototype to be the guy who can match up with the atheltic tight ends entering into the league, but he does not have that kind of a skillset.

Basically a Taylor Mays style player without the over the top athleticism.


I don't agree. I think Tate can be a NFL SS. I think Maryland made the wrong choice in switching him over. How good will he be? I don't know. I'd say his upside is Kam Chancellor while his downside is Aaron Rouse.


He does look to have enough athletisism to cover the new breed of TEs that are becoming more popular in the NFL.
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zacapr22 wrote:
I have a few prospects i'm interested in. Could you tell me anything you like or dislike about any of these guys?


Just going to post a snippet about each since I could go on for a while. If you want me to expand more on one of them, let me know.

DE/LB Jarvis Jones - Definitely competing to be top drafted rush linebacker. Needs to improve on his last season. Thought he could have snuck into the first round last year.

WR Keenan Allen - Very much in the mix of top receivers. VERY deep class from first glance, so he'll need to play well. Probably more quick than actual fast.

S Barcarri Rambo - Really like him, but teams HAVE to do their homework on him. First round talent that probably falls into the middle rounds because of character concerns.

WR Cobi Hamilton - Always leary of those players that come from Petrino's system. Huge season could boost him as high as the second round. Seems more like a mid round guy.

DE Devin Taylor - Looks like Tarzan, play like Jane. Probably wouldn't touch him until the fifth. Needs a big season to rebound his stock after how disappointing he was last year.

S T.J. McDonald - Decent, but nothing special to push him over the top. I've got more of a second round grade on him. Not sure if he plays free or strong in the NFL.

RB Andre Ellington - Not a fan of the running backs in this class, and Ellington seems in the same mold as C.J. Spiller minus the ridiculous final gear that Spiller had. Mid round selection at the earliest.

RB Knile Davis - NEED to see how he rebounds before you take him early. Speed, speed, and more speed.

CB Justin Gilbert - Really like him, probably doesn't get the love he deserves.

LB/S Kenny Tate - Taylor Mays all over again without the elite athleticism.

WR Tavon Austin - Really forced the issue with Morris Claiborne. Needs a strong year to avoid being lost in the deep and strong WR class.

DE Alex Okafor - Don't like talking good about Longhorns, but he's pretty good. Not as good as his teammate Jackson Jeffcoat but still good in his own right.

DE/OLB Dion Jordan - Not really familiar but seems really raw. Needs a strong year and put on weight given his frame.

WR Ryan Swope - Liked him more than his teammate Jeff Fuller last year if that says anything.
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khodder wrote:
Hopefully not stepping on any toes here;

Tate is not good enough in coverage nor does he have the anticipation to play as a safety at the next level. However he also does not have the size, physicality or instincts to be a linebacker. He is stuck in a bad spot, his best position in the NFL would be on the weakside of a cover two, but with that position becoming less and less utilized in the NFL.

He is physically impressive and that could get him drafted in the third round, and some coaches might see him as the physical prototype to be the guy who can match up with the atheltic tight ends entering into the league, but he does not have that kind of a skillset.

Basically a Taylor Mays style player without the over the top athleticism.


You're never stepping on toes here khodder. Love reading your posts, and you're always welcome to post your thoughts here.

And the Mays-Tate comparison is spot on. Exactly what I think everytime I see Tate play. As much as people would love for Tate to be the new defender for those hyrbrid TE, teams just won't invest high picks into players that they just don't have a position.
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