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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A few questions about your Big Board. Do you think Jarvis Jones will go where you have him, or do you think he drops? What about Milliner and Ogletree makes you think they're that great? What do you like about Mingo to have him that high?
Also, why is Fluker so low?
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nice to see floyd rising on your board. i remember he was out of your top 50 before. i want him in the first
anything you saw in particular that pushed him up?
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Why so low on Khaseem Greene, Eddie Lacy and Markus Wheaton?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not only does Jarvis Jones have Spinal Stenosis but he'll be 24 next year. I could understand him being a top prospect if he was putting forth this production at 20 (like Damontre Moore) and didn't have his unfortunate condition.


His age doesn't change the fact that he's an extremely talented player. And until we get more information about his spinal stenosis, I'm having to assume that he's going to get a relative clean bill of health. If he does get medically red flagged at the combine, his stock is going to drop significantly. Into the second day or even possibly into that third day.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IDOG_det wrote:
A few questions about your Big Board. Do you think Jarvis Jones will go where you have him, or do you think he drops? What about Milliner and Ogletree makes you think they're that great? What do you like about Mingo to have him that high?


No. Jarvis Jones could go as high as #3 to Oakland, and Philadelphia at #4 is another landing spot. That being said, I still think that Cleveland at six and Buffalo at 8 seem like the most landing spot, Buffalo in particular. Again, it is going to depend on the medical reports at the combine.

As for Milliner and Ogletree, Milliner is in the same mold as Morris Claiborne in terms of prospect. Not Patrick Peterson. Probably could develop into a lower end #1 CB, but not an elite CB prospect. Had a really strong year. Will almost certainly not get past San Diego at 11. Detroit at 5 and Tennessee at 10 are also two really likely landing destinations. Ogletree is just extremely talented. He just has a nose for the ball and he's going to be at high value on draft day. They're both top 15 talents.

As for Mingo, the athleticism is what I'm looking at. He's probably one of the more athletic pass rushers in this class. Love the idea of putting him in a 34 defense and letting him getting after the quarterback.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IDOG_det wrote:
Also, why is Fluker so low?


Too many questions. Awful footwork, poor body, and questionable pass protection skills. He's a good prospect, but he's not close to Andre Smith in terms of prospects.
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nice to see floyd rising on your board. i remember he was out of your top 50 before. i want him in the first
anything you saw in particular that pushed him up?


Just really like his fit as a five technique. Just a ton of talent that I think is undeveloped at this point.
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CWood21 wrote:
IDOG_det wrote:
Also, why is Fluker so low?


Too many questions. Awful footwork, poor body, and questionable pass protection skills. He's a good prospect, but he's not close to Andre Smith in terms of prospects.


I see Fluker as more comparable to Anthony Davis. I remember everyone was tearing Davis up before the draft. He struggled at first being so young and raw but has developed nicely as a power blocking RT. I would think Davis is a closer comparison than Andre Smith. What do you think about the Davis-Fluker comparison?
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How do you like Alec Ogletree as an OLB in a predominately wide-9 scheme; A scheme that requires highly athletic linebackers that will be running down side-line to side-line attacking RB's. They also need to be sound in pass coverage.
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I think Tavon Austin is too low at 61. Any specific reason you have him down there?
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Why so low on Khaseem Greene, Eddie Lacy and Markus Wheaton?


Khaseem Greene is pretty schematically limited. A bit lighter than I would like as well. Good coverage skills for a linebacker and a nose for the football, but afraid he'll get washed out against the run. I'm just opposed to 'Bama RBs right now, so long as I think they're product of the offensive line they're playing behind. As for Wheaton, he just hasn't stood out for me in a crowded WR class.
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I see Fluker as more comparable to Anthony Davis. I remember everyone was tearing Davis up before the draft. He struggled at first being so young and raw but has developed nicely as a power blocking RT. I would think Davis is a closer comparison than Andre Smith. What do you think about the Davis-Fluker comparison?


That's a better comparison, but Anthony Davis had much better footwork. I've heard a Flozell Adams comparison thrown out there, but I'm not real happy with that comp either.
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How do you like Alec Ogletree as an OLB in a predominately wide-9 scheme; A scheme that requires highly athletic linebackers that will be running down side-line to side-line attacking RB's. They also need to be sound in pass coverage.


Really like him. I think he's got the chance to be a special linebacker. I do have some issue with him in that scheme as I feel he could get swallowed up by offensive lineman, which is clearly the weakest part of his game right now.
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ninerfanwheelz wrote:
I think Tavon Austin is too low at 61. Any specific reason you have him down there?


I was beginning to think he's probably too high. Honestly, I think Dexter McCluster was superior prospect. I wouldn't be surprised if Stedman Bailey ended up as a better pro. Austin is extremely small, and has little experience running NFL route trees. A LOT of room to bust here.
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