Today is the deadline for Ray Rice to sign a long term deal

sp6488 · Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 6230 Location: MD

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-deadline-day-for-rice-ravens-20120715,0,6606174.story

raven5255 · Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 13635

I really hope Im proven wrong in a couple hours, but I dont think it gets done. There hasnt been many indications of progress from the media in the last couple days or even weeks.

I think the Ravens should offer a deal somewhere in the ball park of what LeSean McCoy and Arian Foster got, maybe a bit more, and leave it at that. Both sides are probably playing hardball till the deadline, but the Ravens really have the leverage here. Adrian Peterson money isnt happening.

Flaccomania · Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 16537 Location: Parkville, MD

Personally, I think it'll get done. The market is kind of set, I imagine it's a matter of both sides seeing who blinks first, but in the end, I think we see a deal done that's slightly more than Foster. I can't imagine the Ravens want to go into next off-season with both Flacco and Rice's contracts to do.
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Flaccomania · Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 16537 Location: Parkville, MD

HokieRaven5 · Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:07 pm Post subject:

raven5255 · Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 13635

Yea you've got to feel like the ball is really in Rice's court here. Its not hard to figure out what fair market value is; so assuming the Ravens are willing to offer that, its really up to Rice to accept it. If a deal doesnt get done I would think his demands were just too much.

Flaccomania · Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 16537 Location: Parkville, MD

Ok, so the players close to Rice as far as I know have the following deals...

Forte - 4 years, $32m, $8m/year avearge, $18m guaranteed.
McCoy - 5 years, $45m, $9m/year average, $20.75m guaranteed.
Foster - 5 years, $43.5m, $8.7m average, $20.75m guaranteed.

Now, IMO, Rice should get slightly more than each as he's been slightly more productive in his career. I'd say 5 years, $47m, $9.4m/year average, $23m guaranteed.

What I'd do...
Signing bonus: $10m ($2m/year pro-rated)
2012: $4m salary (guaranteed), $2m SB ($6m cap hit)
2013: $6m salary (guaranteed), $2m SB ($8m cap hit)
2014: $7m salary ($3m guaranteed), $2m SB ($9m cap hit)
2015: $9m salary, $2m SB ($11m cap hit)
2016: $11m salary, $2m SB ($13m cap hit)

This will keep his cap hit lower for the next 2-3 years to allow us to phase out veterans' contracts such as Birk/McKinnie/Ray/Ed/Williams/Boldin. As well, the majority of the guaranteed money is paid out in the first 2 years aside from the SB. The SB is only $2m/year, so if he were to deteroriate after 3 more years, we can let him go without much of a cap hit.
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coordinator0 · Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 5873

My suggestion is do what they did with Ngata and give Rice a larger amount of guaranteed money. There's only an hour and half left now.

raven5255 · Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 13635

Im thinking the Ravens have an offer on the table and its up to Rice to take it or leave it. I cant imagine the team giving in in the final couple hours before a deadline. Wouldnt give them much leverage in future negotiations if word was out that they increased their offer out of desperation at the last minute.

I think Flaccomania laid out a pretty reasonable contract. Dont see what's wrong with that. Obviously we dont know what the Ravens are actually offering, but Ive got to think its a fair offer. We've always given generous contracts to those who deserve them, most recently Ngata and Suggs. Nothing cheap about the contracts they received.

bmorecareful · Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 432

All I know is we can't go into next offseason with Flacco and Ray Rice both not under contract. If Rice doesn't get done by the deadline Flacco has to get done sometime during the season. My biggest fear is not signing them now and them both having even bigger seasons next year inflating their monetary value even more. Especially Flacco, I think our skill position players are going to improve on last years success alot which in turn is going to turn Flaccos numbers into Franchise single season record type of stats. Don't get me wrong that might not be overly impressive but at the end of the day being the best a team has ever had is a helluva bargaining chip.

raq11 · Joined: 24 Feb 2011 Posts: 670

I hope you guys can sign him before the deadline. Should be closer to McCoy's than Forte's, but right in that neighborhood.

As for Flacco, Stafford should be re-signed this season, Cutler too. They might be the indications the contract is waiting on? No idea where Flacco's value would sit in between.

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StRawz11 · Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Posts: 3413 Location: Not in Pittsburgh

11 minutes to get it done
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